Grimstar Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I might try CS2 tonight. I might not. Fuck platinum.
Seiki Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 So he's pretty much the same? Or has he gotten even more annoying? basically he is the same as CS1 except his moves got a bit slower, his nails hardly do any damage, and he can only do CS1 damage in the corner. @Midnight: Bang's 2D/6D>noel all day. btw are you maining Noel?...Hazama?...maybe Jin? I know you don't like makoto so I mentioned the other "top" 3 characters. My favorite thing about the patch so far has to be the rounding down of guard primers when you burst. Man I've been guard crushing fools left and right.
Klein Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I've gotta say, having as many air unblockables as Hakumen has feels GREAT. Hyped to play a CS2 tournament even though I'll lose as soon as I fight anyone other than Rachel.
LastStarSaviour Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I thought Middy was maining Rachel. He probably won't main Noel because he doesn't want to mirror me for some reason. So bursts break primer now? That just made my day. So I heard Bang needs to use those bumpers now, how exactly does that work? Is FRKZ now a factor in Bang's overall strategies? Damnit, Seiki I need some details. Looking to learn all I can about CS2 now.
Astaroth136 Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Supposedly, a lot of Tager users are disgusted by CS2 Tager. Yes, he has a few new gimmicky tools, but his overall combo damage is terrible. I already hate that 2C xx 4D cancel was taken away, and I haven't even played CS2 yet...
LastStarSaviour Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I've gotta say, having as many air unblockables as Hakumen has feels GREAT. Hyped to play a CS2 tournament even though I'll lose as soon as I fight anyone other than Rachel. Haku-Men looks really awesome this time around. I'm thinking about picking him up again, even though I doubt i'll play anything other than casuals with him.
LastStarSaviour Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Supposedly, a lot of Tager users are disgusted by CS2 Tager. Yes, he has a few new gimmicky tools, but his overall combo damage is terrible. I already hate that 2C xx 4D cancel was taken away, and I haven't even played CS2 yet... After what i've seen so far I can imagine why they feel that way. I haven't seen any decent damage from him outside of a spark-bolt setup and even that wasn't as good as I expected. Plus Hazama and Haku-Men are looking to be his worst match-ups now (mostly Hazama)
Doromac Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I'm gonna be even more ass next tourney. Gonna try to play that mahou shoujo
Astaroth136 Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 After what i've seen so far I can imagine why they feel that way. I haven't seen any decent damage from him outside of a spark-bolt setup and even that wasn't as good as I expected. Plus Hazama and Haku-Men are looking to be his worst match-ups now (mostly Hazama) 6B now has fatal counter properties. However, he can BARELY break 3k on a 6B FC combo. What a waste...
LastStarSaviour Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) You serious? Wow, that makes me almost feel sorry for the guy....almost. You know Astaroth when science isn't quite catching up you always have magic, if you know what I mean. Edited May 12, 2011 by LastStarSaviour
Grimstar Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 god I dont want to relearn Hazama god I dont want to relearn Hazama GOD I FUCKING DONT WANNA
Doromac Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 god I dont want to relearn Hazama god I dont want to relearn Hazama GOD I FUCKING DONT WANNAI feel your pain
Grimstar Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 I have no drive to relearn BB right now, I just want to play AE :\
Seiki Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Reason why Tager will always be shit tier: He only has gimmicks. @Star: Bang may have to use bumpers in certain matchups especially against characters with good mobility like Tao, Hazama, etc. to compete with them in that regards. FRKZ has kind of changed its role in every version of blazblue. In CT it was gimmicky You bursted and you couldn't even barrier so you couldn't block any attacks. Bang doesn't need it in CS1 because a)he already does great damage and b) in CS1 and CS2 they made bang be in counter hit state while he dashes in FRKZ and it has less invincibility frames compared to CT. In CS2 it is actually a viable part of his metagame because it gives him the ability to do huge damage midscreen and Bang Install combos in general net him greater damage. A corner Bang install combo that's very practical taken straight from his mission 10 nets him 7k damage and it builds 50 heat to do the distortion at the end.
Astaroth136 Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Reason why Tager will always be shit tier: He only has gimmicks. If he did more damage from non-grab combos, it would be okay. But then, he wouldn't be a "grappler" in a sense. If he had respectable normals, that would be okay too. Right now, 2B is best close range poke, while 5C is all he has mid range. I think the Tager mod put it best: "Now, we just have to play with absolutely 0 fucks given."
LastStarSaviour Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Reason why Tager will always be shit tier: He only has gimmicks. @Star: Bang may have to use bumpers in certain matchups especially against characters with good mobility like Tao, Hazama, etc. to compete with them in that regards. FRKZ has kind of changed its role in every version of blazblue. In CT it was gimmicky You bursted and you couldn't even barrier so you couldn't block any attacks. Bang doesn't need it in CS1 because a)he already does great damage and b) in CS1 and CS2 they made bang be in counter hit state while he dashes in FRKZ and it has less invincibility frames compared to CT. In CS2 it is actually a viable part of his metagame because it gives him the ability to do huge damage midscreen and Bang Install combos in general net him greater damage. A corner Bang install combo that's very practical taken straight from his mission 10 nets him 7k damage and it builds 50 heat to do the distortion at the end. Ah, I see. Looks like Bang's a bit more complicated than I gave him credit for. Really wish I could play and try out some of Noel's new stuff. So many strategies I want to test out. Really crossing my fingers for CS2 tomorrow Edited May 12, 2011 by LastStarSaviour
Doromac Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 I have no drive to relearn BB right now, I just want to play AE :\And all I want to do is marvel
Top_Cat Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 . @Midnight: Bang's 2D/6D>noel all day. btw are you maining Noel?...Hazama?...maybe Jin? I know you don't like makoto so I mentioned the other "top" 3 characters. mmm yummy 2D. I'll be maining Rachel/Noel. I'll play around with over half the cast like I do and eat tager with lambchops. I thought Middy was maining Rachel. He probably won't main Noel because he doesn't want to mirror me for some reason. Pssh Noel mirrors all day long. R-1 Black, yo. Who is this purple R-1?
snipingsnipe Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 GGs to seiki, your CS2 bang is looking insane, was definitely not expecting him to turn out that good, I also think your the first person I've met online that blocks platinums TKed overhead :P
Seiki Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 GGs snipingsnipe very nice pressure with Platinum and glad you are sticking to Rachel too.
LastStarSaviour Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 mmm yummy 2D. I'll be maining Rachel/Noel. I'll play around with over half the cast like I do and eat tager with lambchops. Pssh Noel mirrors all day long. R-1 Black, yo. Who is this purple R-1? That's the spirit Middy. You can always count on ol star to rock the purple palette, even though I have a new color scheme I use a lot. I think R-1 no longer uses purple since Yuu has been using it. Me is sad Q_Q
Top_Cat Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 bbcs2 is out on psn now. I am downloading eet. It might only be for jp copies though.
LastStarSaviour Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) bbcs2 is out on psn now. I am downloading eet. It might only be for jp copies though. Finally, i'll download it when I get home today. Even though not playing against anyone will be annoying as heck. PSN has been saying the same shit for days now, I saw one site where they said they were trying to get it up by the end of May. I really hope that isn't the case and they get it up by this weekend. I get all of tomorrow to spend on training with Noel. Edited May 12, 2011 by LastStarSaviour
LastStarSaviour Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 FUCK!!!! FUCK!!! FUCK!! Wish I had read the fucking rest of the article. I got all excited and shit for nothing. FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!
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