Akatsuki Denkou Senki

[AyaImmortal]

new patch was released.... 1.01 on the main website

[Nekich]

things changed: -CPU difficulty was lowered things fixed -unable to continue in Sugoroku mode with selection screen display set to LOW -can't roll (it says "recovery" - guess that's rolling) after being hit out of the previous roll (it's like "roll - get hit - can't roll again") -missing Mycale's specials in the game manual

[AyaImmortal]

Current thoughts on tiers ATM S tier Akatsuki A Soldat Mycale Fritz B Wei Marilyn Anonym Murakumo?( I am not sure about him. I dont think he is top by anymeans) C Kanae Sai Blitztank

[Nekich]

is Sai that bad? .(

[AyaImmortal]

is Sai that bad? .(

Lets see

1. Most of sai's combos tend to be rather.... Shitty. This is mainly due to the fact that they happen to be VERY hard to pull off consistantly OR they are 1 frame links

2. He has decent pokes up close but he has no range game whatsoever.

3. This 22 moves are horrible. They arent invincible and your opponent can jump out of them on reaction with ease.

(edit this) They can also stand there taunt laugh and then hit him in the mouth for trying such a shitty move

4. His does ok damage if you get them to the corner. Midscreen, he does jack shit.

5. His level 3 is OK at best. I think it sucks ballz as the opponent can still jump out on reaction.

Edit: Put up full tier list thoughts

[4649]

Current thoughts on tiers ATM

S tier

Akatsuki

A

Soldat

Mycale

Fritz

B

Wei

Marilyn

Anonym

Murakumo?( I am not sure about him. I dont think he is top by anymeans)

C

Kanae

Sai

Blitztank

my tier list with explanations

S: akatsuki, fritz, marilyn

i give you your ken, yun and chun ladies and gentlemen. akatsuki is basically ken in 3s, needing very little explanation. gets meter easily, has messed up 50/50 games that lead to corner loops that hurt badly, very safe. fritz has broken teleports and samurai spirits pokes with insane priority, and invincible dashes mean he can always get away clean. also dont neglect his air game, mixing up between jump B and jump insta-teleport ( Toki much? ) is too good. marilyn is basically insane right now, 236A fakeout to throw is really stupidly good, a dp hitbox that hits from behind is stupidly good, a bnb that puts you in the corner for free where you have to guess off her stupidly good mixup and cant just mindlessly parry lest you get fucked up....she's just stupidly good. ( ehem )

A: mycale e-soldat

these two have the best runaway next to fritz in my opinion. mycale's "gugumiru!" spike super is really hard to parry on reaction and her ability to knockdown and charge 22+B for overhead on release is nothing to sneeze at, plus she has yun + yang divekick game. :D

soldat is, well, guile, which obviously means he can be offense or defense and he's way too safe. i think he actually might end up a little better than his current ranking seeing as how he's almost akatsuki-level good, he just needs to follow ABC ( Always Be Charging ) law.

B: murakumo, wei

murakumo has a really silly teleport game involving setting mines and dash teleporting or jump 2C crossup B to force them towards it. 2B xx [2]8B is really good, his stand or crouch C has good 50/50 priority but gets stuffed by anyone above B tier. he'd be really good if it werent so impossible for him to get close to anyone better than him. ( cough cough FRITZ )

wei's shoulder charge game is somewhat reminiscent of urien, and knocking down into a 22+A charge seems pretty useful. his problems revolve around the fact that despite a good frametrap he has very predictable normals which lead to parry xx punishment.

C: anonym sai kanae

anonym would have the best runaway in the game ( CABLE ) if she had unlimited ammo. as i see it, there isn't a discernable pattern of shots you can do that can keep someone at bay without eventually getting punished for it. her slide should also be cancellable, that would make it at least safe. she also seems to have problems getting damage. she does get kudos for having the best character design in the game though. :p

sai's hypnosis would make him at least A tier if he had a way of consistently setting it up so that it was for free / unblockable / unavoidable and if he had the same priority on his normals that he had circa Akatsuki Shisei Ichigou ( the first game ). as is, he's been toned down whereas it seems he has to be very, very tricky to land anything on anyone good, and keepaway soldat + mycale tactics own him with almost little effort.

kanae has a good frametrap, some really good normals ( why is her 6C Chun's back and Fierce!? ) but she's really slow and requires a lot of dedication to win with. you pretty much have to parry your way out of EVERYTHING ( or play Potemkin.....hi, Gwyrgyn! )

D: blitztank

not much i can say although blitzie's 22+B is pretty good, not much else. he's like a giant Mecha-Twelve or something. :P

[Koozebanian Fazoob]

I don't think Marylin is top ... she really has to stay in your face and rely on frame traps and throw mixups. Her lack of a decent low means you really only have to worry about parrying high or avoiding the throw, which already makes her worse than Aka in my opinion. She also isn't as random or wiggly as Fritz is. Also, a lot of characters have crossup DPs. Akatsuki does, I believe Soldat does as well. I agree with Kanae bottom though. She has a handful of decent stuff but she has shit for damage outside of throws and parries. She needs to be a parry machine to get the job done.

[AyaImmortal]

OK your top 3 = FAIL Aka is obviously no.1. Fritz is NOT S tier by any means. his dashes are GOOD. not at all broken. His pokes are good too once again not at all broken. He does good damage yes. But its hard to hit an opponent with fritz. Especially if their names are SOLDAT AKATSUKIand MYCALE. Soldat OBVIOUSLY, next to mycale, has to have one of the most solid games period. He has DAMAGING COMBOS as well as extremely power pressure game. His zoning is top notch Something marilyn cannot do. Marilyn DOESNT do massive damage outside of the corner OR with out having to burn a super or level 3. Not to mention you have to hit your opponent ALOT with marilyn in order to do any kind of damage. Instead of comparing her to chun, How about comparing her to someone like... Chipp??? Without all the damage issues. Also as dan said, SHE HAS NO LOW!!!! her sweep doesnt lead to any more damage:V:V:V:V:V:V. HOW IS SHE TOP TIER? Mycale is AUTOMATIC number 2 imo because she keeps out and she does good damage. She also HAS combos. She has the best keep out in the game hands down. Ive been playing blitz all week and I have to say that i feel as though my tier list is VERY accurate if not spot on for the current point in time.

[Zaido]

Kanae also needs to corner and only off of soem jump in to grab or a neutral jump C.. and a parry to do some decent dmg so... so far the tier list seems pretty right ;o... damn you akatsuki :P...

[4649]

so yeah, i'm not dead sorry aya, i didnt mean to sound like a dick on aim but i really did have to go do something, everclear and me do not mix at all ;_; funny you mention chipp, isn't he B tier in AC? fritz isn't hard to hit people with at all. just have to condition people to expect him to do one teleport and then do another, and know the spacing of his pokes. fritz can time command dash to place himself instantaneously behind you on the first vulnerable frame of your wakeup for a throw, a cr.Ax3 xx A+B+C, or he can let you try and DP him for being there, do nothing but guard it and then punish you for 3k for it. on marilyn vs soldat: it's not like it's that hard for her to get in on him, she has super armour 214 stun palm or fakeout, parry, and good mixup. soldat only has but so many ways to respond to her. the fact that as a character he's naturally most effective while charging makes him vulnerable simply because the marilyn player is going to already know that he's going to be forced to block at certain times to keep his charge. that's when they can go for a blockstring -> throw mixup. the yomi levels are naturally in her favor, thus IMO she has advantage, at least at the start of a round. of course she has to work harder, but if she's unpredictable, which all i'm saying is that marilyn is really good at, she can keep the match in her favor. of course if you want everyone to just spontaneously agree with you and not make their own decisions about who they want to play as, you wanna somehow establish "official tiers", or whatever, then that's cool, i really don't care about being at the head of the scene for this game or whatever you're trying to do by asking for tier thoughts then ripping them up , i'm just saying don't underestimate those three characters' potential.

[AyaImmortal]

I just dont think that your list was fully thought out. You can feel free to prove me incorrect. So yeah im going to rip your idea's apart because they arent fully thought out well. It is up to you as the person bringing forth the idea to prove ME incorrect. Marilyn vs soldat. Marilyn has to work alot harder than you think to get in. Soldat has solid AA options against her. Granted she needs to be pretty quick to get in on soldat. The only way she can get in on him is by jumping in. Soldat can easily keep her from jumping in. She doesnt have good jump in's either. So Soldat ALSO wins in the department. Soldat cannot play the air to air game with her however because of the fact her j.a is just too good. Soldat has a superior zoning game to her. If she gets in easily on soldat. Soldat isnt playing correctly. If she gets in however. Soldat has alot of issues because he cannot deal with her frametraps well. Outside of random flash kicks and random parries. He doesnt really have the upclose poking game to deal with her upclose poking skills. in that respect its the ONLY way she shuts him down. AT BEST its an almost even match up. (in soldats favor imo) Also, I dont like how you came at me on aim at all. So thats partially why i posted the way that i did. So my apologizes if it seems as if i am attacking you. But plain and simple, You were an ass.

[Master Chibi]

Wtf she can just autoguard the projectile, can't she?

[Koozebanian Fazoob]

I believe she can in fact auto guard and then cancel, if not just hit him in the face. But she has to be pretty close for that to work.

[Master Chibi]

Right, so there's like no need for her to jump. I've shot his entire fireball super at her and the bitch literally auto guards her ass right through it, jumping is not a necessity for that annoying twat.

[4649]

Right, so there's like no need for her to jump.

I've shot his entire fireball super at her and the bitch literally auto guards her ass right through it, jumping is not a necessity for that annoying twat.

hence my point, she doesnt have to fear his projectile / zoning game the way most characters do

aya, nothing i can really do but apologize, i am sorry it came out that way, i was in a bad mindstate ( everclear'll do that to you ). if it makes you feel better i'll MM your Soldat vs my Marilyn @ Evo East, first to seven for 50 ( and i don't even LIKE money matches ). free money for you since the matchup belongs to him, right? that and i suck ^_^

[AyaImmortal]

hence my point, she doesnt have to fear his projectile / zoning game the way most characters do

aya, nothing i can really do but apologize, i am sorry it came out that way, i was in a bad mindstate ( everclear'll do that to you ). if it makes you feel better i'll MM your Soldat vs my Marilyn @ Evo East, first to seven for 50 ( and i don't even LIKE money matches ). free money for you since the matchup belongs to him, right? that and i suck ^_^

Nah i don tneed your money dude" as i hate money matches myself" Just playing is fine with me dude

[Master Chibi]

Chibita, you have a room right? If not, I do ;O! I want to play that shit all weekend, haha.

[4649]

i can put up some cash if you'd let me crash on the floor :o i figured out some crazy Anonym stuff but i'd rather show than tell

[Nekich]

we have a subtle style blog now...yay and stuff.

http://subtle.blog.shinobi.jp/

[AyaImmortal]

i will be readin it

[TatariZar]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-92665871241679866&q=akatsuki+blitzkampf&hl=en

nyc tourney. day-one noobness...go!

[AyaImmortal]

Just so people know it exists. A website has been created for for blitzkampf discussion. It is called accidentcore.com. Join up!

[AyaImmortal]

http://subtle.blog.shinobi.jp/Entry/4/

[Nekich]

So, according to Subtle's blog, there are new things to come in Blitzkampf (i think of it as a patch maybe?):

-Color Edit Mode

-SE Matching Web (improved online mode in the flow of ggxx netplay, complete with the aforementioned color edit support)

-Some mysterious Helheim battle you can see in the background of a Matching Web screenshot

details: http://subtle.blog.shinobi.jp/

No release date of this upgrade(s) is specified so far.

[Harem]

Wait, so there is finally an online lobby? FUCK YES.