The 8th Philippines Thread - Vanilla Salt

[Duqs]

Corrected the dates, nag autopilot daliri ko HAHAHAH. Thanks for the heads up.

Will create a "pool system" tournament just for kicks to test it out. Matt and I will get back to you guys bout this since Matt has been dying to go with this format for almost a year XD. In case people are wondering how the pool system works, you can visit the EVO website

In case anyone wants to know the sched in EVO (since they stream the matches, though not sure bout semi finals and quarter finals), click this link

Anniversary of BBPH is on August if i'm not mistaken, details of celebration to follow (if meron hohoho)

BTW, There are two holidays in August: National Heroes Day [AUG 29 MONDAY] and Eid Ul Fitr [AUG 31 WEDNESDAY]. Treatment of the holidays will be announced. Once they've been announced, hagis tayo ng event or something =D

P2D's INDESTRUCTIBLE (SSF4AE national tourney) is on August 20 btw =P

In case anyone is interested in joining a photocontest that involves cellphone cameras and figures [nendoroids], check this site

and...

GDI STGCC!!! BAKIT ANDUN SI KIPI?! D=

Edited July 6, 2011 by Duqs

[Dragonthorn]

@Duqs - actually iba iniisip ko na format... but we can discuss which one everyone would prefer.

Qualifications

Simple lang ang pool format... we randomly divide all the players into 4 pools. Within those pools, there will be a round robin format (similar to what Gelo introduced). The top 2 players from each of those pools will then advance to the elimination stage.

Eliminations

The top 8 will then be subjected to a single elimination bracket. The winner of the bracket is then the champion. Simple as that.

We will go with single elims since the qualification stage takes up a lot of time, given that each player will have the same amount of matches regardless of win-loss record. So if you have 4 players in a pool, you're assured of at least 3 matches even if you do go 0-3.

If any of you are familiar with the World Cup, this is how they do it.

[D i X]

Ang kulet niyan ah....parang mini-SBO feel parati! ahahahaha! xD

Daming events ah! YES MAKAKAPUNTA AKO SA AUGUST KUNG GANUN HOLIDAYS!!!

[Dragonthorn]

Kung BBPH anniv month... dapat may event every week hehehe XD.

[D i X]

game ako dun! KASO WAG SAT!!! BWAHAHAHHAH!

[Twilight child]

game ako dun! KASO WAG SAT!!! BWAHAHAHHAH!

PAIMPORTANTE.

Alala ko tuloy yung one time na minove ng d-tier yung casuals para sa isang certain leprechaun tapos biglang di rin nakapunta nung requested day nya.

True story

In anycase, parang cool nga yung inexplain ni boss. pwede naten try sa iplay if ever XD

Edited July 6, 2011 by Twilight child

[McArthur]

@Duqs - actually iba iniisip ko na format... but we can discuss which one everyone would prefer.

Qualifications

Simple lang ang pool format... we randomly divide all the players into 4 pools. Within those pools, there will be a round robin format (similar to what Gelo introduced). The top 2 players from each of those pools will then advance to the elimination stage.

Eliminations

The top 8 will then be subjected to a single elimination bracket. The winner of the bracket is then the champion. Simple as that.

We will go with single elims since the qualification stage takes up a lot of time, given that each player will have the same amount of matches regardless of win-loss record. So if you have 4 players in a pool, you're assured of at least 3 matches even if you do go 0-3.

If any of you are familiar with the World Cup, this is how they do it.

oks lng din s akin ung gnyang format, then again, kht anong format ok sa akin XD, maybe except a direct single elims on the get go.

so seeing na we average 30-40 in a ranbats, there will be 7-10 players per pool, give 1 pool 2 stations and a pool can finish before 2 hours. ang pinaka issue ko lng is more or less dpat sunod sunod ang games ng pool para swabe sa oras ng tourney

also Roxio Capture from our SG friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkN6dBHX6ZY

with the HD option *droooools Roxio na to, tara guys ambagan sa Roxio NYAHHAHAHAHAHA

Edited July 6, 2011 by McArthur

[D i X]

@RY

KINGINA KAH!~

[lolokoa]

gusto ko ng baboyyyyyyy

Melty Casual sa sabadoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

sumama na gusto maging Rusty sa BB

plus Arcana Heart Praktis tayo Justin Para tayo Magharap sa Finals at lalo maging rusty sa BB

Wala pala si insan sa AH Tourney so malakas chansa natin manalo

Nice~

Ang duga pala ng Arcana Blaze ng Evil 8K guaranteed at wala Proration

Edited July 7, 2011 by lolokoa

[Dragonthorn]

Actually Duqs and I discussed the format over ym... Di feasible yung round robin with more than 4 players in a group/pool. We have a new format in mind but we just need to iron out some of the details. We'll discuss it again and then finalize and let you guys know .

[shishiwawa]

Boss kaya ba idag-dag sa format nyo na yan yung location seeding? Para di ulit mangyari yung sa cash&carry event na DtierVsDtier at CubaoVsCubao players ang naglaban sa tourney. Wala naman problema dun pero mas masaya siguro kung yung makakalaban mo eh yung bihira mo makalaro.

[Twilight child]

Boss kaya ba idag-dag sa format nyo na yan yung location seeding? Para di ulit mangyari yung sa cash&carry event na DtierVsDtier at CubaoVsCubao players ang naglaban sa tourney. Wala naman problema dun pero mas masaya siguro kung yung makakalaban mo eh yung bihira mo makalaro.

^+1

[lolokoa]

Madali naman i-set yun inde magkakalaban ng yun mag-kaperahas ng location

ang mahirap lang inde sabay pagdating ng bracket manager at bracket program sa venue kaya inde agad na set at lagi kulang sa oras

[Duqs]

updated IAD site with P2D's indestructible: http://iairdash.com/?p=1146

@Pool format

It's prolly going to be a 4-pool system, tapos distributed yung numbers evenly among the 4 pools. Double elim type. Finalists of loser's and winner's bracket will go on to the next leg of elimination.

So whats the difference of this 4-pool format from the normal double elims?

Its easier to schedule matches between players since it starts off with pools instead of big batches. Its more organized in a way. We'll have to find time testing this new format since we might use this for ranbats if it will contribute to the flow of the event.

4 pool (or otherwise known as the EVO format) is the easy to implement XD

@Bert

Bracketting is still purely random. If you end up with a dtier vs dtier, then thats just how the ball rolls. The best format to play against someone you don't know much is a team battle (with location vs location if you want it THAT BAD). That or casuals.

I think i heard that issue from someone (who shall remain anonymous) in the mvc3 tournament (ozinefest) who complained that he had to fight against 2 other people from his location and accused us of rigging the brackets. In the next mvc3 tourney (cash and carry), he was up against another person from the location he played, but he decided to drop the match (as in forfeit). Thankfully di siya tiga BB community XD

@4pool format and location

The 4 pool format CAN POTENTIALLY distribute people across different pools to avoid playing against one another from the early sets, pero you guys will face off parin sa quarter or semis. Of course this format will suck ass if some wtfuckery chance happened and everyone in the d-tier or any location ends up in one pool (2 representatives per pool amp).

EVO Season moments check it out =D

Edited July 7, 2011 by Duqs

[Cokesakto]

The pool system sounds nice, but we really need to gauge the time demands it will bring. Round robin type matches first sound like it might take a longer time than the pure double-elim brackets, but we'll have to see. We might have to start at morning to have any reasonable hope of finishing before nightfall.

[Duqs]

The pool system sounds nice, but we really need to gauge the time demands it will bring. Round robin type matches first sound like it might take a longer time than the pure double-elim brackets, but we'll have to see. We might have to start at morning to have any reasonable hope of finishing before nightfall.

If the entire 4pool will use brackets like EVO, amount of time will be the same, just more organized. Round robin format will drag on depending on the number of players per pool or the number of pools itself. Ideal pool is 4 players per pool, and its only 4 pools. Amount of time needed for this is almost the same as a double elim bracket with 16 players. Regardless if sets are single matches or best of three. Going beyond that means tataas yung amount of time needed, kaya double elims nalang per pool naisip namin. I-tetest out pa kinks nito =D

[lolokoa]

Single Elims Per Pool

3/5 rounds

tapos

anu problema sa Double Elims bracket na ginagamit natin ?

Better Yet Gayahin nlng natin ang Japan Sa tourney format

Single Elims

Single Character

Final Destination

Edited July 7, 2011 by lolokoa

[Duqs]

Single Elims Per Pool

3/5 rounds

tapos

anu problema sa Double Elims bracket na ginagamit natin ?

Better Yet Gayahin nlng natin ang Japan Sa tourney format

Single Elims

Single Character

Final Destination

Kahit i double elims mo yung pool lalabas na pareho parin yung time needed with the regular double elims. As long as best out of three parin =D

There is no problem with the regular double elims format we are doing, the 4pool just promises

1.) na mas organized yung takbo ng match, especially when we hit that 64-man match

2.) players can see how long they'll have to wait until their pool is up.

Its for the sake lang of organizing stuff, and nothing to lose with trying it out. Ranbats will still be double elims format, pero if 4pool format is actually better and everyone likes it and there are no perceived flaws in it, then we move to that.

I'm game with single elims, single chara =D Pede rin Double elims, single match, single chara. XD

Edited July 7, 2011 by Duqs

[InternetDivider]

Single Elims

Single Character

Final Destination

XD

OK LANG, MALAKAS ZELDA KO

[lolokoa]

ahaaa~

I'm already missing those carefree days

XD

OK LANG, MALAKAS ZELDA KO

PATAY RAPE KAY LINK KO

[shishiwawa]

Naiintindihan ko yung sentiment nung nakwento mo na taga-mvc community pero over the top naman yung naging reaction nya. Ganito kasi yun, imagine kung hindi ka naman ganun ka-active umattend ng mga casuals sa ibang lugar dahil malayo ka or whatever other reasons. Kalaro mo lang madalas yung mga kapitbahay mo. Sa tagal nyong naglalaro halos kabisado mo na playstyle nila.

Kaya sumali ka ng tournament na umaasang makakakita ka ng iba namang competition yung hindi mo pa nakikita o nararanasan. Tapos biglang kasama mo sa pool yung mga kapitbahay mo din pala. Nakaka-disappoint di ba?

Kung ihihiwalay nyo din naman into pools hindi ba kaya isinggit dun yung pag sort out ng locations? Hindi ko sinasabi to para sa sarili ko kasi obviously halos nakakalaro ko naman lahat sa community natin, ma-swerte ako kasi nakakapunta ako sa iplay, Dtier, dungeon, cubao at sa iba pang casuals. Pero paano yung iba?

OMG WALL OF TEXT

[McArthur]

pwde ring ma format by location sa software, pero if let's say madami tlga ang taga Mars or Venus, chances are may mag tatapat p din sa knila in the early rounds. Pero nice idea din nman ung mga nasusuggest ngyn.

so ano try ntin sa iPlay Friday / Saturday?

IF itrtry nga ntin , dpat marecord ntin ung oras ng pag handa paglaro at progressing in the pools/brackets etc, para at least dun s mga players na hnd mkakatry ng format na un sa casuals, at least may idea sila on why natin tinest out ung new format

sa akin ok lng kht formatted by location or hnd, BSTA WAG NATING GAGAYAHIN SI F.CHAMP NG KANO! nsa semi finals na siya nag reklamo pa siya na nakalaban nya ung best friend nya na araw araw nyang kalaro.

[lolokoa]

Spelunker nlng tayo bert o kaya Galgun

GALLLLLLLLLLLL GUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

o kaya nood tayo Live Action LA blue Girl

less hassle pa

SKIMAAAAAAAAAAAA LORDDDDDDDDDDDD

[lardbucket]

Akira qualified for SBO.

[shishiwawa]

Yeah ok lang kung halimbawa dalawa or tatlong tao na pareho ang location sa isang pool kasi wala naman tayo magagawa kung marami talagang sumali na taga-sakanila at least sinubukan natin gawan ng paraan. Na-suggest ko lang naman kasi maganda yung pool system or whatever tawag dun na gusto nilang gawin. Sayang naman kung gagawin lang yun para mas organized lang kung pwede naman singgitan pa ng ibang options.

Marathon tayo ng mga tentacle live action! Marami ako dito ala nga lang subs yung iba but who needs them!! TENTAKOLS !!