Yuushiro Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 Going to update these as I have time to gather information from people’s and my own experience and translate what the Japanese are saying in the wiki or BBS For now you guys can discuss the matchup here. Basic/Matchup overview: long-distance: mid range: short range: Best tools: Best way to pressure: Their strategy vs us: Best overall strategy:
Moy_X7 Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) Basics/Matchup Overview: This match feels like it's slightly on Jin's favor. Jin's pokes lead to higher damage on CH whereas Hakumen won't be getting much out of his pokes without the use of his stars. Pay attention to the amount of stars that he has at the moment and react accordingly. His nerfs have really hurt him this time around. Long-distance: try to IB his 4Cs and j.Cs whenever you can. If the Hakumen is mashing 4C, block/IB those 4Cs and return fire with 5D or 2D. Bait his 4Cs so that they whiff and return fire once again with 5D or 2D. Be wary of his stars as he will cancel his 4Cs with Gurren or Kyshuu once you start getting too Drive happy. DP A is a very good tool in this match as Hakumen will be approaching from the air for the majority of the match. DP A him out of his high jumps and his rising j.C attempts. Dash 2A against his falling j.C attempts. If you both jump at around the same time then don't be afraid to throw out a j.C, the risk/reward factor is in your favor as all he can get out of a j.C is a breather. Use j.236Cs sparingly and they might catch him during one of his j.Cs or other aerial attacks and you can follow up with either one of the projectile super on normal hit or a standard combo on CH. I'd refrain from using the grounded Ice Blades as they're easy for him to cut, Drive counter, or IB. Mid-range: 5C beats most of his stuff at mid-range, just be ready to bait some Drives at this point. Block low at this range or else be ready to get swept by 3C. If he's getting too 3C happy then 6B his ass for massive damage. Be careful when using j.C and 5D outside of their maximum range because he can Drive counter the shit outta you at this point. Short-range: here is when you have to start respecting Hakumen. His jabs and his 2B have frame advantage, 6A is +3, and he can put the hurt on you with TK Tsubaki, TK Hotaru and his Drives. Once again, be wary of how many stars he has at the moment and get ready to react to TK Tsubaki or Zantetsu if he doesn't respect your reactions. If he uses the latter and he has no more stars then IB the second hit and turn the tide. The same goes for Renka. Be ready to tech throws as Hakumens love to tick throw when they have very few stars. 6B might not do much damage but it still build him meter and exposes people who mash crouching jabs. Be extremely careful when approaching with j.B at this range as his Drive counters, 5A, 2C, and TK Hotaru will make you cringe. Best Tools: AA 2A, AA 5A, j.A AA DP A, 5C, j.C, 5D, 2D, and j.236C are your friends. Best Way to Pressure: Slowly approach him, try to outpoke him with your Drives and j.C. Throw some j.236Cs and hope for a hit. Get him to block 5C > 2D at mid-range and begin your pressure. I know that we Jins love our j.B but it's extremely risky to throw them out on a whim in this match. Their Strategy vs Us: Hakumens will usually try to keep away as they always have but they have to really respect Jin's tools in this match. The most patient player will prevail in this match but don't get too patient or be ready to eat godlike Mugen damage or react to some nasty mix-ups. Bait his Drives as much as you can to the point where he won't want to use them as often. He's vulnerable after Mugen, so use Ice Wave super or something else to punish him according to the distance between him and you. By the way, 5D beats every cross-up you throw at him so use them at your own risk lol. Gimmicks: for the love of God, do NOT get hit by a fully charged Shippu. Fucking dash and DP his ass, Ice Arrow him or some shit lol. Best Overall Strategy: Read "The Best way to Pressure" section as it's basically the same thing. Edited May 30, 2011 by Moy_X7
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