A.X.I.S. Posted February 13, 2012 Author Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?13169-Tager-vs-Valk-CSX-Stomp-the-dawg http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?13159-Tager-vs-Rachel-CSX-Stomp-da-Frog In case you guys didn't see this.
Manta Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I see Pet using 5B and 2B to GF for combo enders lately. Any advantage with way those prorate to justify using them instead 3C? They do more damage because of 3C's repeat rate, but less heat gain, the damage diffrence is tiny though. The real reason is probably that there's a variety of tech traps because of the variations: 5B > GF 2B > GF 5B > 2B > GF (Bluebeats probably) 2B > 5B > GF (Bluebeats probably) And for each one, you can often just tap the GF to whiff it for an air tech trap, making them afraid to tech. or you can use the classic AC air tech trap. I wouldn't worry about sacrificing damage at the end of combos really, the proration has usually hit rock bottom so that you're only doing low double digit damage.
Commanderoftroy Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 They do more damage because of 3C's repeat rate, but less heat gain, the damage diffrence is tiny though. The real reason is probably that there's a variety of tech traps because of the variations: 5B > GF 2B > GF 5B > 2B > GF (Bluebeats probably) 2B > 5B > GF (Bluebeats probably) And for each one, you can often just tap the GF to whiff it for an air tech trap, making them afraid to tech. or you can use the classic AC air tech trap. I wouldn't worry about sacrificing damage at the end of combos really, the proration has usually hit rock bottom so that you're only doing low double digit damage. Yeah I has figured it came down to forcing a bad tech, the same gf whiffs can be set up without those moves as well, plus 3c probably has greater range.
Manta Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Gotta be careful though, once the proration goes below 10%, 5B > 2B or vice versa is no longer a redbeat. There's also the other reason you use 5B instead of 3C; namely that 5B is quicker and more foolproof. Edited February 13, 2012 by Manta
Commanderoftroy Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Have we deemed 5b to some air combos not worth the trouble? Seems you could use the jump cancel to set up some other tech traps like the occasional j.D at the end of combos.
Manta Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 TOMORROW foot fettish man. That reminds me, what's with the foot fetish anyway? Why can't you have a real fetish like Bondage?
Commanderoftroy Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 I'll go with manta here, thinking foot fetish may be thr ugly step child of fetishes.
Commanderoftroy Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 Damn furious blaz isn't in today at my GameStop.
A.X.I.S. Posted February 14, 2012 Author Posted February 14, 2012 That reminds me, what's with the foot fetish anyway? Why can't you have a real fetish like Bondage? Because what sends erotic signals are feet not being tied up?
StayFree( ' 3') Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 That reminds me, what's with the foot fetish anyway? Why can't you have a real fetish like Bondage? the whole forum needs to get in on this conversation. sticky this shit. axis, you should give scat a try brah
Darlos9D Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Everybody knows that sub/dom fantasies are where it's at. Anyway I got my copy of CSX. I'm hammering away at learning these new combos. You know it's been a while when practicing combos for a few hours makes your thumb sore.
Scottie Yosh Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Feet are as legit a fetish as bondage! Have to side with Axis on this one. I should be getting my copy by Friday.
Zephyrus Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 I should be getting mine on Friday if Amazon has them. :< Fetish conversation...seems legit. Foot seems fine, seeing as how there's weirder stuff out there.
Darlos9D Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Yeah foot fetish really is on the tamer side of WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS. So I actually went for a spin online last night. I mostly bumbled around like an idiot since I didn't know what to do off of most of the random hits I got. Also this one Litchi just roflstomped me repeatedly. Sad times! At least I figured out what kinds of combos I need to learn. Oh and my VERY FIRST MATCH was against this terrible Rachel. After I won, I immediately received a PM from the guy. It said something along the lines of "wow, I remember when people had to actually put in effort to win with tager." The funny thing is I barely even did anything interesting in that fight. The salt runneth over. Keep it classy PSN. Edited February 16, 2012 by Darlos9D
Commanderoftroy Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I've never had so many bursts come from people just from getting hit by a jab. It's so satisfying to know people are that afraid to hit by Tager these days.
Darlos9D Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I've never had so many bursts come from people just from getting hit by a jab. It's so satisfying to know people are that afraid to hit by Tager these days. I'd be saying the same thing except nobody I've faced so far seems to want to burst combos starting with 5A. It's one of the few new combos I seem to be doing reliably, heh.
NumeroGaijin Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I've never had so many bursts come from people just from getting hit by a jab. It's so satisfying to know people are that afraid to hit by Tager these days. THIS!!! It is so weird lol. It's like now we have to be prepared to burst bait even after a 5A now. One thing that is really gimmicky but may work is 5A, VC Sledge lol. I love how ANY random hit turns into 50 heat to 100 heat. I find myself using MTW more often just to increase damage because we gain what we spent.
Commanderoftroy Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I bait bursts constantly off of 3c because people are terribly afraid of getting magnetized. It seems I'm playing gief and people feel that vortex coming. Also love hitting bang and arakune with 5b mid screen after 3c asledge.
Retnuhs66 Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Finally made an account here after long time lurking. Been maining Tager since Day 1 CT and it's been an uphill fight ever since. ;.; I figured I could gain some major pointers from the Tager threads.
Commanderoftroy Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Welcome bud. I think just about everyone of us has been playing him since CT. He way too much fun csex.
Scottie Yosh Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Hey Axis, I was watching some of your play on Kurushii's stream last night and was wondering: Why did ya end combos with 2D mid screen?
A.X.I.S. Posted February 17, 2012 Author Posted February 17, 2012 As I told koopa on skype: "Because 2DD>6C was being gay on netplay." I think I did use 22D 2D which puts them really close if they neutral tech.
Scottie Yosh Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Makes sense :P Just making sure there wasn't something I didn't know.
Zephyrus Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Okay, got Extend, finally. Why in the holy balls is 3C > AC so hard for me to do on a Dualshock. ;_; Gonna be in the training room for some time.
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