Kiba Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Please do not fight her air to air, she will most likely beat you. When it comes to pressure, be careful. On her wakeup for example, begin with 2B as opposed to 5B or 2A. The reason for this is that she can crawl under 5B and 2A but she can't crawl under 2B.
Errol Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 She can crawl under 2a, seriously? I guess 5c might whiff but 5cc should hit?
Kiba Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 5C whiff and 5CC hits. May need to be double tested though.
EdWORLD Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 she can crawl under j.214x and a bunch of your jump ins. 3C beats her 5D (as far as I can tell, or at least trades). The only thing is after the fatal, she flies at the opposite direction so I haven't been able to combo from it.
tsubaki1 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 i dunno i still have trouble getting out of tao's pressure.
LunarSelenia Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) i dunno i still have trouble getting out of tao's pressure. This matchup got seriously harder with CSE Tsubaki's changes (Imo) It really just boils down to reaction time and noting when to poke out of her pressure. I'm sorry I can't explain more, I only play against 1 really good Taokaka and I feel like I'm playing more against the player than the matchup in general. What I do know as basics are: Tao doesn't have any "real" mixup, her overhead is slow but what she lacks makes up in tricky pressure. You can throw her out of 6B but it's really tight and I highly advise against it, but it's kind of a slow overhead (not as slow as Tsubakis >>;; ). In fact, I don't think Tao can really get any big damage off of 6B unless it's a CH. Also she doesn't have any big damaging overheads unless on CH but it doesn't mean to like auto-block low. Her j.C and j.2B can be thrown in to catch you on that for an overhead, other than 6B. 2C will always be your best friend in this matchup. If the Tao likes to drive through you to cross over during pressure, you can 2C that. Like I said before about her j.C and j.2B, she can double/triple jump and also BAIT you into your 2C, so you really have to be cautious about when you use it. Be careful if you get too scared (like me) and try to IAD back and get some breathing room. Got read too many times and got Air Thrown into combo..into the corner. If the Tao decides to stop Cat Spirit 2 ender and go into a Throw, they're sacrificing damage for Air pressure. Thankfully, if you tech it and decide to charge, you still can get about 1 stock before Tao can do anything to get you. Any more and she can pop up right next to you and try and throw you. j.214x can get you out if she tries to climb her way back and get you. This matchup is more of a game of making that cat BLOCK more than you blocking her pressure, it's really the only way to go about it considering that Tao has the advantage in the air, and you don't have too many options to put her on the same level as you. Tsubaki has a lot of options you can utilize in her own pressure to defeat that cat....but it doesn't make this matchup any easier. Much like her other matchups, it's really an uphill battle. This is just what I have gathered DX, if anyone has anything else to add (or to fix about what I have here)...just say so....like I said, I only play against one Tao, since we only have one in our scene. Who destroys me every single time -__-;; Edited April 2, 2012 by LunarSelenia
C0R Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Tao doesn't have any "real" mixup, her overhead is slow but what she lacks makes up in tricky pressure. You can throw her out of 6A but it's really tight and I highly advise against it, but it's kind of a slow overhead (not as slow as Tsubakis >>;; ). In fact, I don't think Tao can really get any big damage off of 6A unless it's a CH. Also she doesn't have any big damaging overheads unless on CH but it doesn't mean to like auto-block low. Her j.C and j.2B can be thrown in to catch you on that for an overhead, other than 6A. If the Tao decides to stop Cat Spirit 2 ender and go into a Throw, they're sacrificing damage for Air pressure. Thankfully, if you tech it and decide to charge, you still can get about 1 stock before Tao can do anything to get you. Any more and she can pop up right next to you and try and throw you. j.214x can get you out if she tries to climb her way back and get you. 6b is the overhead, not 6a. Spirit3 can also lead into some pretty sizeable damage >4k~, but it's 30f so whatever. Drive RC 50/50 is pretty good, but only leads to about 3k~. j.2b isn't an overhead, but can be chained into j.a, which is, so you might as well block it high. Tao's air oki is pretty scary, as it should always be applied with j.d~a, which is neartly uncontestable at that range due to the hitbox, and leaves her super plus in the air. I personlly wouldn't try and do much except maybe airthrow her, which is all that's fast enough to catch it, and that can be very challenging.
LunarSelenia Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 LOL Hahaha, I totally knew that >>;; (mixed it up with Tsubaki's overhead :D) fix'd it anyway >>;;; Thanks for the extra info C0R >>;;
Airk Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 This matchup got seriously harder with CSE Tsubaki's changes (Imo) This should be like the first line in every matchup thread, just to get it out of the way. :P You can throw her out of 6B but it's really tight and I highly advise against it, Uh, TECHNICALLY I guess this is possible, but it's almost impossibly hard - you'd basically have to hit throw almost before they hit 6B, because 6B makes Tao airborne after frame 12 and you can't throw her after that. Oh, and it's plus on block, so don't hit buttons afterwards. Though it is actually just as slow as Tsubaki's overhead. Yay.
Spring_Raid Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 Please do not fight her air to air, she will most likely beat you. When it comes to pressure, be careful. On her wakeup for example, begin with 2B as opposed to 5B or 2A. The reason for this is that she can crawl under 5B and 2A but she can't crawl under 2B. Thanks! I've been playing Tao as my main in EX and didn't know crawl goes under 5B.
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