[CP] Amane Nishiki Gameplay Discussion

Pete278 · November 17, 2012

I like how the post both includes 'does anyone else have trouble getting a dp' and 'I think this character's bad'. Solid conclusions, obviously. :P

WillWork4Instal · November 17, 2012

Low Tier means all the more salt it is when you earn a victory. I get a warm,fuzzy feeling using a misunderstood lesser used character, anyway.If Amane only has a few combo setups, then fine, I'll take it that way. I don't mind if Amane doesn't dominate the tiers. What matters is HIS BEST ASTRAL EVER that I'm comfortable using him, and his gameplay is decent. You don't have to ask for much in order to win. You take what you got and you win with that. And down below, yes, he is considered the most complex (not counting Izayoi).

Edited November 17, 2012 by WillWork4Instal

Starlight777 · November 17, 2012

Wasn't it said that Amane was the most complex of the 3 new characters?

Kurushii · November 17, 2012

Please drop the tier discussion.

Starlight777 · November 17, 2012

Dropped it like a combo lol.

SoWL · November 17, 2012

I got the greatest and most hilarious feeling of deja-vu from those comments.

Although even a backstep 6D doesn't stack after forcing them to block a Level 1 Hariken A...(not really sure what this means)

I suppose they mean that you can't stack Spiral from two moves at once?

Lich · November 17, 2012

Amane is gonna be the best character in the game.

!!!!!

I'm pretty hype for this character, just simply based on his play-style. He seems to have a lot of control over neutral, and he just looks like he gives no fucks. lol

WillWork4Instal · November 17, 2012

:psyduck: It's hard for me to really envision what the gameplayers are talking about, because I can't remember the moves by memory yet. The Bullet and Azrael have clickable pics along with the moves, I wonder if we could do that here? I would try, but I might not be accurate on which move corresponds to which. Also, the best tool I can use to capture is vcap. :gonk:

For combos from ground throw, throw>Gekiren works regardless of throw direction and does 2620. In the corner, this can be followed up with 5B pickup for more damage, and is pretty stable

I like this. This makes me very happy.

SoWL · November 17, 2012

It's hard for me to really envision what the gameplayers are talking about, because I can't remember the moves by memory yet. The Bullet and Azrael have clickable pics along with the moves, I wonder if we could do that here? I would try, but I might not be accurate on which move corresponds to which. Also, the best tool I can use to capture is vcap.

You also don't have as much footage as Azrael or Bullet, so some moves might actually be missing. On the other hand, Amane doesn't have as many moves as either of them, so it should be fine. I'd do it, but I'm pretty much burned out for today, so the best I can do is fix some notation mistakes.

And don't worry about your tools, I got my screenshots with Print Screen and Photoshop. Beggars can't be choosers.

WillWork4Instal · November 17, 2012

Okay, because I'm using vcap, and if I need to keep track of links while doing this, I'm posting the links on here simutaneously. If someone organizes this, it would greatly help.

5A: http://vvcap.net/db/88zzcoEb5sZs189c7rDo.htp

6B(?): http://vvcap.net/db/CkjMSjwS64JvhbF711RV.htp

5B: http://vvcap.net/db/G_9_tkJvwD94P1DyDyXz.htp

5C: http://vvcap.net/db/Q9NJU1P1sKueVZo84d1O.htp OR http://vvcap.net/db/UiNubq68Hr6LRxkLgMzw.htp

236A/B: http://vvcap.net/db/bdA4y-PSBQLLnpAUvJIg.htp

6C: http://vvcap.net/db/qEOeNniRBX5k2SloQi8L.htp

2A: http://vvcap.net/db/8pkSVfCasNGRkDKvjzHC.htp

2C: http://vvcap.net/db/7jwUi1b5rjoUMhaJPFzA.htp

Foward Throw: http://vvcap.net/db/OpUx52i9X2QeBL8uTU0s.htp > http://vvcap.net/db/j8ZnoMfgrwSWOukV_Ide.htp

Win Round Pose: http://vvcap.net/db/wNvZ0g-jYb3mWYfAQ7BU.htp

2C (Not been mentioned in the thread yet, hits twice): http://vvcap.net/db/Ag6Rnr76Nha7vkINnF9K.htp

j.B(?): http://vvcap.net/db/iErSuOAAWZTtw6qtAqcX.htp

I'm going to post these for now, to check if it will link right.

SoWL · November 17, 2012

You can also take some screencaps from the debut trailer. It's even in HD, which is quite pleasing to the eye.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_O9VIUmmiQ

And would adding the images of various characters affected by Amane's AH to the OP be appropriate?

WillWork4Instal · November 17, 2012

2B: http://vvcap.net/db/jP_xpCBD_QHUXe5KF-0L.htp

j.4C?: http://vvcap.net/db/NBkVc-XRE9GdF7ly4kM7.htp or http://vvcap.net/db/paqEq-CuADeNgAiSpWGj.htp (Please help me on that! Thanks!)

j.2b: http://vvcap.net/db/YDH_PBfnuVuy2q828__Q.htp

j.2C?: http://vvcap.net/db/3Rdd4gqheTYWyAaOtqgk.htp

236C: http://vvcap.net/db/FxNjIkA_kunhG1GQp5_4.htp

6A: http://vvcap.net/db/BGXm5ZP6JjNPx5X__NYu.htp (lol up-skirt)

j.236C: http://vvcap.net/db/vnunx5nxrEzD-Well_uj.htp (This finishes with a ground move on it's own)

5D: http://vvcap.net/db/umRBzauCtCKFHxouN9jQ.htp

632146C: http://vvcap.net/db/3ItdI0C4pVCQq0UKy5jq.htp

632146D: http://vvcap.net/db/9iffYzrrYK83kMqyc88D.htp

214A/B: http://vvcap.net/db/QP3dBtOIwr2nSQR-4AsH.htp (more up skirt)

236D: http://vvcap.net/db/cXRaVq7SxON-TufhbKL9.htp >X: http://vvcap.net/db/cTHE2wRhQdaApIuj2xt_.htp

j.D: http://vvcap.net/db/5x-vLFu_-iRhrvIGZSn9.htp

6D: http://vvcap.net/db/h_aHYLd2l5RW09mcW-Dk.htp

623C: http://vvcap.net/db/OGj9r7KmKyUjtMbnKjrU.htp

222D: http://vvcap.net/db/rGfj0ikwKz_i1zz_VceP.htp

Therre you go! Toasty, could you put each one to their appropriate move? I hope this helped! And off topic, I love Amane's Superman color pallete.

EDITE: Sure, I'll have to re-find all those pics from the astrals, but sure.

WillWork4Instal · November 17, 2012

"Amane's Fountain of Youth, free to everyone!"

Valkenhayn: http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/022/133/506a010c7dd18.html

Relius: http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/022/133/506a010c233f0.html

Hazama: http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/022/133/506a010b96f68.html

Noel: http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/022/133/506a010b24f42.html

Haku-men: http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/022/133/506a010b60c41.html

Ragna: http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/022/133/506a010bc97fb.html

Jin: http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/022/133/506a010a71a23.html

:toot: That should do it! (if a move doesn't have a pic, it's because I couldn't find it.)

SolarMisae · November 17, 2012

A good amount of those screenshots are WAY too blurry to tell whats going on. I guess we could have them put up for now, but I think waiting for clearer footage to take shots from would be a much better idea.

Chris Chaos · November 18, 2012

Honestly, I wouldn't be too worried about how good or bad Amane "COULD" be, his playstyle is appealing to me and so I'll be putting in some time due to that. You can't really judge a character's strength from the words of an individual especially since it's only been Loc-Tests plays and not plays of the official build of the game, along with that, it takes time to develop tech. I'll take the guy's word as a heads up prior to playing the character but we'll see people doing it big in Japan with Amane about one month after it's released.

You forget that Sev is Amane IRL.

True...

WillWork4Instal · November 18, 2012

Yeah, sorry, I could only do the best I could do.

SolarMisae · November 18, 2012

Yeah honestly I don't know how much it's even needed. Once the sprites eventually come out this kind of thing will be on the wiki anyways.

Toasty · November 18, 2012

Yeah, sorry, I could only do the best I could do.

No worries man, the lack of Amane footage didn't exactly give you much to work with.

It won't be too much longer until we get recorded footage on something other than a shakycam anyway, so then they'd be useful in a data thread or wiki. Some of the pics just don't show the move very well because of the angle it was recorded/the low quality of the vid. D:

EDIT: I just looked at the ones in the other threads and they have the same problem of being barely visible, even with their characters being used much more. I can't even tell what some of these are, but I guess that's expected of loketest footage.

Edited November 18, 2012 by Toasty

Mr. Kimura · November 18, 2012

Toasty I think you picked a fabulous character. I should have known... when are we gonna compile the pics of his astral? I know what Bullet's is but I haven't seen a pic of what she looks like with his astral.

Toasty · November 18, 2012

All the astral pics (at least the ones I've seen) are at a pretty decent quality at the least, so I'd definitely add a compilation of those. I don't have links to all of the images I've seen readily available, but I'll gather them up later tonight and add them to the OP.

And some of those descriptions are from what people at loketests have said, so we didn't necessarily get any images with them.

EDIT: I'm blind. Thanks Install!

WillWork4Instal · November 18, 2012

No problem, glad I could help.

By the way, can Tager sledge our C moves (or anything)?

And I'm really curious to see how functional Gekiran is. It looks like we'd have to be lucky connectiong it, but it's hard to fully imagine its comboing ability. I hope it has FC properties.

By a raw guess maybe we could 623C > 2C >5B > 236C or 632146C. Not sure if 5B could reach that long.

And we can't IAD after 6D with level 3 right? That seems like the only logical thing we could do with that move.

SoWL · November 18, 2012

Yeah honestly I don't know how much it's even needed. Once the sprites eventually come out this kind of thing will be on the wiki anyways.

Well it's still better than sitting and fiddling with our thumbs, waiting for the arcade release.

I'd still rather have as many screenshots from the official trailers as possible, as they are of much better quality. I'll probably take them and post a bit later.

EDIT: It's not much, but here are the moves shown in the trailer:

Bonus - the Spiral gauge

Edited November 18, 2012 by SoWL