harmless kitten Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 His hair is white. Given that Nu's hair is also white, I liked the idea that it bleached his hair rather than the trauma doing so. Already turned his right eye red. Seithr was actually injected into her body through her right eye. Little wonder that it's covered with a patch.
Stryker115 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 That seithr injection is probably also what gave her an Azure Grimoire as well considering that the Azure Grimoire is nothing more than condensed seithr actually now that I think about it how did Ragna break the seal under the church to get his Blazblue? iirc Rachel just "observed" and didn't do anything Does Ragna have some kind of latent magical abilities as well? He was also semi unconscious because of blood loss at the time so maybe it was instinctive?
harmless kitten Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 That seithr injection is probably also what gave her an Azure Grimoire as well considering that the Azure Grimoire is nothing more than condensed seithr actually now that I think about it how did Ragna break the seal under the church to get his Blazblue? iirc Rachel just "observed" and didn't do anything Does Ragna have some kind of latent magical abilities as well? He was also semi unconscious because of blood loss at the time so maybe it was instinctive? Rachel made the church collapse to reveal an underground chamber. Some time later, a ray of sunlight reveals that Ragna's right eye has turned red. He makes his way over to a wall and looks for something "with only his right eye which had been dyed red." He spots a dark, humanoid, headless statue (the remains of the Black Beast) and walks over to it "as if drawn by an unknown force." Upon contact, it crumbles into a black mist (seithr) and envelopes him. Rachel leaves, and shortly after the darkness dissipates to reveal Ragna with the Azure Grimoire acting as his arm. Note that Ragna doesn't remember any of this when he speaks to Jubei later. I don't think it's magic. Ragna has seemingly zero magical abilities and crap ars magus ability (the Azure Grimoire does all of it for him). Maybe something like some inherent connection to the Azure Grimoire? Or it just naturally attracts nearby people.
NeoSkeith Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Doesn't Tsubaki still kinda have it out for Ragna because of what he did to Jin and Noel in the ending? Kinda hypocritical if you ask me. Now not get me wrong I understand her reasons and who Ragna is....being "The Grim Reaper" and all.....Still I dislike Tsubaki here, and find her a big hypocrite. She go through something similar when she was in her "black mode"(let's call her like that) and we know what happened and yet, here she is blaming him for something he had no control over? Also I do wonder if in the next game we not end to see some kind of confrontation between Ragna and the "Evil" inside him.(whatever this "Evil" is the Black Beast or something else).
Lucalibur Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 In all honesty, someone that was born and taught the way Tsubaki did has all the right to hate on someone that killed thousands of innocent people, destroyed many key locations, ran off from restaurants without paying, and has the highest bounty known by living men.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Rachel made the church collapse to reveal an underground chamber. Some time later, a ray of sunlight reveals that Ragna's right eye has turned red. He makes his way over to a wall and looks for something "with only his right eye which had been dyed red." He spots a dark, humanoid, headless statue (the remains of the Black Beast) and walks over to it "as if drawn by an unknown force." Upon contact, it crumbles into a black mist (seithr) and envelopes him. Rachel leaves, and shortly after the darkness dissipates to reveal Ragna with the Azure Grimoire acting as his arm. Note that Ragna doesn't remember any of this when he speaks to Jubei later. I don't think it's magic. Ragna has seemingly zero magical abilities and crap ars magus ability (the Azure Grimoire does all of it for him). Maybe something like some inherent connection to the Azure Grimoire? Or it just naturally attracts nearby people. Something that I was wondering, its implied that Ragna had no aptitude for armagus before acquiring his grimoire; both he, Jubei, and even Jin commented on this. The weird part is that Jin and Saya(And by extension Noel) both had unnaturally high armagus ratings. So what was Ragna's issue? Kinda hypocritical if you ask me. Now not get me wrong I understand her reasons and who Ragna is....being "The Grim Reaper" and all.....Still I dislike Tsubaki here, and find her a big hypocrite. She go through something similar when she was in her "black mode"(let's call her like that) and we know what happened and yet, here she is blaming him for something he had no control over? Also I do wonder if in the next game we not end to see some kind of confrontation between Ragna and the "Evil" inside him.(whatever this "Evil" is the Black Beast or something else). The difference is that Tsubaki wasn't really a danger to the world at large while Ragna is. Its pretty reasonable to take the safest route and take out Ragna before he hurts anyone else, which there is a high possibility of. Even Hakumen said this was going to happen to Ragna one day. Plus, isn't the fact that he severely wounded two close friends of hers, unintentional or not, reason enough for her to fight? That was the entire point of her character development with the whole Mind Eater thing.
kylehyde Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Ragna not being able to use ars magus just reminds me that he was the least talented of the three. Edited January 4, 2014 by kylehyde
Toxin45 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 A theroy how Terumi's Hazama bodies(including Kazuma) were created by Relius who used what remains of Ripper explaing his eyes always shut thing when does it.
Calamitus Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 When was starting point of timeloops - before or after Black Beast's rampage?
Zedar90 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 When was starting point of timeloops - before or after Black Beast's rampage? The time-loop starts at the day 1st January 2100, the same day that the Black Beast became active, although the Black Beast first appeared on the day 31 December 2099.
raziel12 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 will i think ragna body is more like a seal then anything to keep wats in him from getting out and making him not use any armagus but thxs the azure gremiore wat ever is in ragna has been using it as a chance to slowly consuming him using the azure greimore as a catalyst
Shinhwa Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I still don't get why Ragna was the only one who had no talent for using any Ars.
Zedar90 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I still don't get why Ragna was the only one who had no talent for using any Ars. Didn't Nu say to Ragna something about "It's for this reason we was created" to Ragna during one of the endings in CT. It could be that Ragna was created to be as good match as possible for the Azure Grimoire and as a side effect for that reason he was worthless with Ars Magus.
Toxin45 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Didn't Nu say to Ragna something about "It's for this reason we was created" to Ragna during one of the endings in CT. It could be that Ragna was created to be as good match as possible for the Azure Grimoire and as a side effect for that reason he was worthless with Ars Magus. Although His "Soul" is whatever it was must be trying to return to his original body using Ragna as a vessel.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 But what makes one compatible with the Azure Grimoire? It can't be having no aptitude for Armagus because Noel also possesses the azure and she inherited Saya's aptitude for ars. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
raziel12 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 could be because how he was created based off of Sōichirō old ES project in NO.5- Es meaning he might be number 5 prototype Embryo Storage
Toxin45 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 could be because how he was created based off of Sōichirō old ES project in NO.5- Es meaning he might be number 5 prototype Embryo Storage Probably thought he does mention someone's soul inside him giving him life
Shinhwa Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 It's really weird how Ragna does have "Es" mark on his clothing o.o
raziel12 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) well i wouldnt read too much in to his clothing but his weapon on the other hand thought that's a different story and besides in my opinion i think swordman ship is not ragna thing i think hes more suited to hand to hand combat since jubei never thought ragna swordman ship since most of the time he trained with jubei bare handed Edited January 4, 2014 by raziel12
harmless kitten Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Something that I was wondering, its implied that Ragna had no aptitude for armagus before acquiring his grimoire; both he, Jubei, and even Jin commented on this. The weird part is that Jin and Saya(And by extension Noel) both had unnaturally high armagus ratings. So what was Ragna's issue? Ars magus synchronization rates are partly genetic--see the Yayoi family aiming for that at first before they became obsessed with purity and turned to inbreeding--but if the siblings were artificially created, they could've been experiments. Duds always happen. But what makes one compatible with the Azure Grimoire? It can't be having no aptitude for Armagus because Noel also possesses the azure and she inherited Saya's aptitude for ars. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not the same. Ragna possesses the Azure Grimoire which really just lets him do ars, use Soul Eater, etc. Noel can tap into the power of the true Azure.
Shinhwa Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 This really brings up the question what would happen if Noel and Ragna were to fuse if it was possible o_o
Shinhwa Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Already happened in one timeline. huh...? You aren't talking about in CT are you o_o
Zedar90 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Yeah, It happened in CT. It would probably lead to creation of a Black Beast. The reason why the fusion fails I would think is either because of Ragna's state of mind or the fact that Ragna's grimoire is broken.
harmless kitten Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 huh...? You aren't talking about in CT are you o_o One of Ragna's possible endings is encountering a shadowy Noel consumed by her Murakumo programming. Pretty much the same thing happens, though this is Noel before she inherited the Azure.
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