[CP] Kagura vs. Relius

[MikelAL93]

Discuss the Kagura vs. Relius matchup here.

[Dazardz]

For this matchup, I'm certain 6DA can go through Relius's 214A really easily. Timing is a little more specific to go past his 214C, but if you try it in training mode, I think you could get used to it. ... Personally I'd only be trying to fly past 214C because it's more reactable.

Other than this accident, I don't really know anything useful for this matchup.

[FatalCounter]

This is a difficult matchup but we can do it. First of all you have to always check Ignis, the main problem. You can easily react to Relius.

Relius will always want to put you into a random blockstring, this is his main goal and he have 3 options to do so. 214A, 214B and 214C all these Ignis moves can lock you down and give Relius a free get in.

It is pretty easy to react to react vs 214A e 214B when Relius is not close and most of time he is not because scared.

Val Tus (214C) is the biggest problem. You have some options

- 5A or dash 5A and jump after since he can punish you his Fireball.

- 6B and jump for the same purpose but a bit slower and with risk to get countered by Ignis.

- 5C or 2C cancelled into a Fireball, this is the best option but you can be countered any time if you are at the end of screen or midscreen.

- Super jump D, this is really good because you dodge everything and if Relius try to get in you can cancel it and press B or C or even block on time. BTW always check Ignis position since 4D can counter you too.

Relius pressure with Ignis can be DP'ed easily you only have to check what Relius is doing here. he can dodge your punish attempt. Any crazy mixup attempt should be DP'ed, make them afraid to do their stuff and condition their game. That would make them go for tight blockstrings and easy for you to block. You Win!!!

5C and 2C are good vs him, you need to be at range because if you whiff 2C for example, 214A or 214B can counter Kagura and free combo for Relius. 2C and 5C are perfect to punish a blocked 236C (Id Lauger) which is -23 on block.

Fireballs are good but Ignis go through them and Relius can easily harass you with his own ones. A orb should only be thrown during blockstrings or when they don't expect it but never B orb. and B orb? only for combos. Even if you try, 214A or 214C will destroy it easily. Remember, Ignis is not affected by fireballs.

Now the big one, 236A of Relius, his dodging move, if you are used to throw drives randomly, this move will just make you angry and you will certainly lose. Most of Kagura drives and C normals have long recovery. So if he is close to you and dodge these moves, that means free punish, sometimes even a CH. I can even dodge 5C > 2DB. Unfortunately those drives end before his 236A cinematic and he get a combo. Less usage of random drives and need to learn to cancel quickly normals into A orb.

At neutral, 6DC is a bit risky because he can dodge it or you can get countered by a Ignis special, the worse is CH 214C giving him a free 4K combo midscreen. However if you counter him you get a ~5k combo midscreen. This is a 50/50. Just make sure to check Ignis health.

2DB is better, it travels and recovers faster and get you close to him for harassment. If he block one of your drives, please don't do another one and bait his Led Ley, Bingo you get a free CH.

Since most of Relius jump attacks don't have great horizzontal hitboxes, Kagura jump back C will beat them even most Ignis specials. His jump AAA can be block crouching but risky given that he can cancel it into jB or jC. 5A will beat jB or jA, but for jC, you have to time it correctly, it has a big vertical hitbox.

his 5B is too strong, just find random solutions vs it. Too fast, low recovery and too safe. best option is (4) 1236C but why wasting a super right?

These are some tricks I can give, there are a lot more but when you understand the matchup, it is winnable, just play safe and wait the right time to pressure Relius, his defensive options are not great. Good luck!

Edited March 13, 2014 by FatalCounter

[Dazardz]

When you say Relius's fireball, do you mean 22A, 22B and 22C?

[FatalCounter]

When you say Relius's fireball, do you mean 22A, 22B and 22C?

yeah! i didn't know how to call it.