[GGAC] Robo-Ky: Talky-Talky Goes Here!

[iora]

ummm i dont got much for mixup, but i like steam frc -> dust or 2s, seems to work decently well ima trash bot lols

[Mechanica]

How does that work? Did the final hit of punch super not come out because he was falling upward and one punch would miss resetting the count? Or do the punches never stop if you don't stop mashing?

[xenophobian]

the punches don´t stop until you stop mashing, and being in det. mode let´s you do this untill you explode, otherwise you´d be overheating after 20 punches or so... soo....stormlocke, do you think it is possible to connect that last robodash -> charge for 50% 236236S before they are on the ground ?...i tried it for 1 hour on various chars and it seems that it can´t be done....could you take a look at it for me ?

[Dr. Stormlocke]

soo....stormlocke, do you think it is possible to connect that last robodash -> charge for 50% 236236S before they are on the ground ?...i tried it for 1 hour on various chars and it seems that it can´t be done....could you take a look at it for me ?

It's pretty much going to always be an OTG. The only reason it goes for as long as it does in Accent Core is because you're able to Burst Cancel the Det. Mode explosion. In Slash if you hit them with the Det. Mode explosion you would get two tension blocks, so all you had to do was 2d, 5s, 5(f)s, Punch Spam Super. Timing was really strict but it was possible. Kind of sucks because most of the time I only go into Det. Mode off a Gold Burst, making this combo not very practical for my playstyle, (and it's obviously very situational already). Still awesome though.

[iora]

ya that was my issue with it too... i gold burst a whole lot.. so if i landed myself free 100% tension, i probably used my burst to get it.... therefore, no burst to burn for it but then again... just the regular punch spam -> det explosion is pretty sweet... doin it twice is nice, but not that needed :D you know? if that situation ever came up in a real fight, ill probably go explosion -> burst cancel -> robo dash -> back up a smidge -> L3 missiles as oki -> try to connect L3 horsey 1 rep of det mode/punchspam/explosion and 1 rep of a good air combo off L3 horse = a fuckton of damage shrugs, thats just me though

[xenophobian]

yeah, of course it´s impractical, it´s just fucking flashy...and if it was possible to connect the last punshspam you could easily break the 200hit mark...i´m just thinking combovid right now... in matches you´re absolutely right iora...but to kill them you could go for it, the second punch super and detonation give you 100dmg.+ and another 50%tension....depens on your mood, the combo is not exactly easy

[iora]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WulrKorjNbk

1:22-1:26

level 2 reversal SRK, blocked, into FRC j.s

that actually sounds like a good idea... anyone ever try that? or maybe a better variant after the FRC? cuz if they try to punish and you get a CH j.s, that would be pretty sweet.. although id probably try j.h myself for the wall stick

just wonderin fellow robots

[Spark]

FRCing into j.s is really good for awhile, just don't do it too much or they will just start punishing it with an anti air. I don't really use j.h after FRCing because you have to be near the corner for it to be worth while and because you would be hitting them so low to the ground there is no guarantee you can combo them after it.

[iora]

the j.h wouldnt be a air combo, just a simple robo-dash followup, gain a few bars, into (usually) bazooka oki i wouldnt be doin L2 SRK FRCs often to begin with... just something to throw into my game... i need more ways out of pressure DAA isnt always the answer lol

[JackG]

I never shoryu unless its level 3 cause the risk/reward isnt worth it otherwise. My only exception is when itll kill them because when I fight against people I know they know I won't try it unless I got half a bar or more

[Dr. Stormlocke]

Level 2 SRK into J.s is decent for awhile. But not only is the SRK not that great to begin with, you have to factor in that it just cost you a few bars AND tension restrictions for awhile. Not worth it IMO.

My entire playgroup is wary of it now, and any effectiveness it might have had has greatly diminished. Like Wekk, I only really use Level 3 SRK. I do sometimes try to Level 2 SRK opponents who airdash toward me.

[M.Song]

that was a lv 3 dp into false in the vid if you noticed the timings for the frcs on the dp to be different its because he jumps at different heights for the different dp levels with lv 3 being the lowest height.. so you might want to keep that in mind if you want to do a dp frc mixup... if you do a lv2 dp false you are at a higher position and they have a little bit more time to react to whatever you are about to do

[iora]

so that same thing works with L3? good to know can you reaction the hit-but-blocked-confirm L3 then decide to FRC/let it finish, or that kinda really impossible? if you even know what i mean

[M.Song]

so that same thing works with L3? good to know

can you reaction the hit-but-blocked-confirm L3 then decide to FRC/let it finish, or that kinda really impossible? if you even know what i mean

to answer your first question... yes it works on lv3 and it would be the lv2 dp that it may not work so well for

ok... just to confirm... if you are asking if its possible to see if the lv3 dp is blocked then decide if you want to frc it or not... then the answer would be yes..

the false timing on the dp changes based on level, and the number of times it hits... so you kinda have to learn this false by visual cue rather than muscle memory

[iora]

dang ill hafta look into it then, but gg training mode record feature is gross like that im report back in once i get shit figured out :D

[MC cLuSkY]

Can you only FRC the knee rocket (2HS) on hit? I can't seem to FRC it when I don't hit it. Or maybe the timing it just very tight. Any tips?

[Zaido]

Its an FRC, FRC's can be done on hit, Block, or Whiff so yea...

[iora]

the timing is just weird, go to training and just try to find a visual clue to hook ya up i got it muscle memory-ed so i cant help, but thats the best way to learn.... training and display input

[jcyl29]

i thought i was called FORCED roman cancel

[iora]

yep, its forced to happen dont ever do moves over 25% tension, itll drain on auto-mode or at least it will on FRC Easy mode in my wii version of gg, that shit is FUN! you can turn it off, but if i feel like goofin, i use shadow characters and put FRC Easy to 20 HOT DAMN COMBOS SON

[ShibuyaX]

any of yall ever do an air combo then ex move afterwards for a counter hit or throw? i was doing that against some people yesterday and it works pretty well if u use it every so often... something else cool i found out is that you can dust in DET mode around 4 secs left and it will explode on ur opponent and u can get 50 tension right back again!

[iora]

but whos gonna get hit with a dust when your in det mode lol

[JackG]

Lots of people easy 5s>2s RC 5D 5d RC 5d 5s tk forcebreak V 5d You'll have the bar. besides your opponent has to worry about lows>horsie>mash super for the whole countdown so they should be just as worried about a dust at that point. not saying the above setups are worth doing but if you have bar and you have your high/low game going there isn't a strong reason why they should be afraid to get hit with a 5d over other things.

[iora]

rc's diminish the tension gain... so if it didnt work thats not good thats why im all about lobbing missile and running the cover of fire...MAYBE a 2s rc into mixup... but thats like... if it fails your tension gain is gone.... kinda a 1 shot deal u know?

[M.Song]

the rc tension gain penalty should go away if you do it with like 4 seconds left i've only managed to get it once since i don't go into det mode often.... but 5D in the corner with det mode super is the most epic missile loop you can possibly imagine