[P4AU] Yosuke Gameplay Discussion

[heavymetalmixer]

That reduced blockstun for 2C means less footsies . . . I don't like this

[heavymetalmixer]

j.236AB plus on block?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1eBiuJVGA&t=4m14s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU7PlrcL5nk&t=8m47s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5shLE7gPno&t=7m

 

Sukukaja 5A has some kind of invencibility o clash frames?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acWmvKRAhKA&t=1h53m13s

 

And 2C doesn't exactly look like it is more - on block, regardless of the nerf.

[Cathon101]

I'm wondering if the glide imputs have changed seeing as J.2b has changed to J.ab. Any confirms?

[heavymetalmixer]

I'm wondering if the glide imputs have changed seeing as J.2b has changed to J.ab. Any confirms?

 It was confirmed since the loke-tests. Look at the first post of the thread.

[Cathon101]

 It was confirmed since the loke-tests. Look at the first post of the thread.

I understand that the kunai inputs have changed. Nothing is mentioned about the glide notation (meaning there is no: Glide imputs changed from J.66~j.2b+ac to "...") and if I'm mistaken im sorry.

[Pssych]

You answered your own question. j2B is now jAB, so to glide it's jAB > A+C.

 

In other news.....

 

j236C / D aka Shuntenhishokiri / V Slasher got the english dub name of..."V Slash" (You don't know how hype this makes me).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD1Ea7satoQ#t=18

[SwordsNStuff]

The most important thing is... Can we finally use that secret green color yosuke with the blue hair and white Air Force ones?

From that suku combo video?

[Strife]

The most important thing is... Can we finally use that secret green color yosuke with the blue hair and white Air Force ones?

From that suku combo video?

 

Yes.

[SwordsNStuff]

Cool

[mixedmethods]

New Yosuke looks amazing. I am so, so tempted to pick him up in earnest now.

I was more hyped for Yukari and Junpei when they were announced, but Yosuke is just ridiculously good. Damnit.

[SwordsNStuff]

Yosuke is the best character in the game. Of course you should main him.

[SwordsNStuff]

Where is the new info. Couldnt people play this game at EVO? C'monnnnn

Loafin

[Pssych]

I lied, Mike Muscles went to EVO and posted his thoughts to me

 

 

"jA is no longer the god

I kept trying to use it in the style that I'd use it in p4a

and it just didn't seem to work as well

the hitstun is tiny, even on CH, and it definitely felt slower

I kept losing to things I thought I should beat."

 

"However, losing the wonder that was jA taught me the magic of jB

good god that hitbox

New glide

I didn't get very consistent at it

I tried plinking it from AB~C

but that was less reliable than AB~AC to me, but that could have just been a practice issue

New super has a really weird name"

 

"Getting used to his combos was weird

I kept trying to do A run into Vslash

and you're supposed to do b run and my hands just wouldn't listen

And new moonsault > crescent slash doesn't feel as oppresive a hitbox

Hence why yosukes probably don't go for moonsault mixup that much."

 

"jC

I don't know why more yosuke's don't use it

Holy shit

that normal

Jiraiya literally says "no

"Not gettin through dis"

 

"at least against scrubs, 2C hop cancel jB is the killer" (2C>2AC>j.B)

Edited July 15, 2014 by Pssych

[R4KID]

By yours truly xD; http://postimg.org/image/kxz72gyt5/

[heavymetalmixer]

"jA is no longer the god

I kept trying to use it in the style that I'd use it in p4a

and it just didn't seem to work as well

the hitstun is tiny, even on CH, and it definitely felt slower

I kept losing to things I thought I should beat."

 

Looks like 7 frames of startup was enough to make this awesome normal, into something used only for mixups : /  .

[SwordsNStuff]

jB was always a good normal. And causes a fatal now so even more reason to abuse it.

jA change...not bad . I like how it's used now. Better this way.

[Sharkkato103]

jB was always a good normal. And causes a fatal now so even more reason to abuse it.

 

jB doesn't cause fatal lmao

[Pssych]

jB was always a good normal. And causes a fatal now so even more reason to abuse it.

 

Looks like someone hasn't been paying attention to my notes or game mechanics.

 

Yosuke's only regular fatals are j2C/D and Sukukaja 2C. All other fatals you see are due to the opposing move having "Fatal Counter Recovery"

[PK Gaming]

By yours truly xD; http://postimg.org/image/kxz72gyt5/

 

Hah! Congrats, you tricky bastard.

[SwordsNStuff]

so whats the difference?

[Pssych]

It's not a guaranteed FC unless certain moves are used.

Edited July 18, 2014 by Pssych

[Sharkkato103]

so whats the difference?

Chie 5As, you jB her, she gets counterhit.

Chie DPs, you jB her, she gets fataled.

Chie 5A is normal state.

Chie DP is fatal counter state.

The fatal property isn't on the attacking move, it's on the defensive move.

[Kaimon3500]

So is the only way to successfully use Moonsault/Slash in combos now is if you do the EX version?

[GreekAngel]

So is the only way to successfully use Moonsault/Slash in combos now is if you do the EX version?

Ehhh, I think thats only after like B run or something.  You can also EX Dash into Moonsaults or do V slash into moonsaults.  Either way, you get the knockdown, so its fair.

[Strife]

Ehhh, I think thats only after like B run or something.  You can also EX Dash into Moonsaults or do V slash into moonsaults.  Either way, you get the knockdown, so its fair.

 

It's actually after the A version. The B one will put Yosuke behind his opponent, which is mostly used for bnbs since it leads to V Slash > j.2C.