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i was thinking about the question i posted earlier. is there such thing as half a frame? like for example, when i try to tech to do 720 when theres an active atk right on me. im invincible from 1-32 frame and 32.5 frame my 720 comes out so during the 32-32.5 frame, i will get hit out of it. or is 1 frame the absolute smallest denomination for timing?

ah.. i see.. i initially thought that its done pure observation

umm may i know how accurate is the 'Frame Data and Engine Guide' on the forums? im quite new here and im amazed at all the information gathered. are these hypothetical? cause testing out stuff in frames is quite amazing. how do you even tell one frame difference?

thanks manta! so that would also mean that ragna could also divide out of a properly timed meaty move too right? just wondering, i do not know the whole cast that well. does all char have a move to get out of that situation? or will there be some characters that definitely have to block due to the lack of 1st frame invulnerability moves? because i was thinking about how effective is it to time a 2B using tager when a person is teching and forcing them to block. i see alot of tagers do that in videos

i'd like to ask something.. if i do a neutral roll, don't hold any direction while pressing A/B/C, it has 1~32F being Completely Invulnerable. i checked around but i couldnt find out when is the earliest i can do a move, be it distortion, grab or a normal move? cause i was wondering, if a char eg, ragna, does a very meaty move 5D just when i am recovering, can a very well timed meaty attack force me to block without giving me even one frame to do anything like maybe a 720?

I'd like to check, is it possible to divide out of a well timed overhead from noel when ragna is teching? my friend was complaining that it is impossible to divide out of noel's overhead beacuse it is very meaty. assuming that noel's overhead lasts throughout ragna teching, is it still possible to sneak out a divider?

ok. i saw it. i guess, comboing after a front grab is only possible with either a spark or possibly at a corner?

Hi, where did u see tager's forward throw? i would like to see how lit looks like now.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jourdal#p/u updates quite alot of bbcs2 vids omfg! finally a tager that knows what he's doing and truely showcases the powers of tager now! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsb7W_2jsH0 the last match with tager vs bang

Oh, yea... dl being delay makes sense, i guess, to delay so 2C wont hit the person too high to collide.

and also, from what axis posted, 6A：溜めてから足元に煙エフェクトで上段アーマー成立，溜め中も吸う 　　アーマー成立後，攻撃判定が出た時点でアーマー切れる 　　飛び道具判定はアーマーで防げないくさい this is just a confirmation that while charging 6A, during the smoke effect, it indeed has ssuper armour for upperbody. It also sucks people in when charging. upon attacking (releasing A button to attack), the super armour stops. (So the super armour lasts throughout the charging?!) im not very sure about the last line but i think it says, super armor cannot protect against projectiles (i hope i did not translate correctly cause i do not want this to be true -_-) Edit: @ 13:32 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsb7W_2jsH0 it shows 6A eating multiple projectiles!! so now i really do not know what does the last line mean.

Hi, i frequently read the forums but never post. since axis posted the jbbs page with alot of tager info, i figured i read some, of them and post whatever i could find. 中央 4投げ>dl5C>6A>2C>コレダー>Bスレ>ガジェをプラチナに確認 ライチとカルルには入らなかった 全キャラ安定なのは5C>6A>コレダー>Bスレ>ガジェかな 壁背負い 4投げ>dl5C>6B>コレダー>Bスレ>ガジェを確認 キャラ限かどうかは不明 From mid screen, after a back grab, back grab >delayed 5C>6A>2C>collider>Bsledge>gadget works on platinum but does not work on litchi and carl (Note: its my first time reading jbbs, so im not sure about the terms they use there. what is dl5C?) Edit: Thanks to MikeZ dl should mean delayed however, 5C>6A>colliderー>Bsledge>gadget probably works on everyone When at corner, back grab >delayed 5C>6B> collider >Bsledge>gadget is confirmed (6B > collider?? feels weird.. i have never done this in CS before. wonder if it was a typo for 6C instead) whether it works on all characters, is not confirmed yet 今回、通常ヒットでもJCJDが繋がるようになってるね。 一応、6C＞HJBJCJDが繋がる。 多分、JDの発生が早くなってると思うので、 normally, JCJD connects. (im not very sure about this line cause i missed out one word during translation. I do not understand the word 'ヒットでも' and i think it may affect the meaning. but now, tentatively, 6C＞HJBJCJD connects. its probably due to JD being faster (this is the author's guess) my translations may not be very accurate cause im not exactly very good at japanese since im posting as im reading, should i just edit my post or just post new posts whenever i find read something new. will that be considered spam?

Anyway, played BBCS recently. Arakune is pretty much fightable now. Blocking one of ara's dive is as good as blocking an ice car. when i tried, after blocking one dive, i could command A grab all the time. it may be that my opponent didnt know hwo to get out of it, or that it will definitely hit cause of the recovery time. clouds in the air do not hit anymore so its much safer to jump in especially for tager since i used to have problems avoiding clouds after i jump. which also means it is more possible to grab ara in the air. for now, i feel nu is still pretty much un approachable and the worse matchup in my opinion is ragna. His bnb averages out to a whooping 3.3k dmg and is able to start from many moves. as long as its an air combo, belial edge is possible.