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In this match-up Rod placement is crucial. Setting strategically placed rod is a skill that newb Rachel player takes for granted.

This kind of hard, since we can all agree that most of the cast can deal significant damage and kill us. Best match-up ? Arakune (pre-curse mode) Pretty much a win for me.

This, This silly uncancelable clash has cost me alot, Like you thought you got somene cat-chaired and the next thing you knew you we're eating combo's because clashed. It's like one of those times we're rules can be ignored.

For Me I, Inputting the 7D right before the slap animation hit works better.

Okay I've been wondering quite sometime now How do you actually alter your sj when your going to do the lv3.j2c? I've seen it on some match up vid and here http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11390567 There are times that i tend to sj too close to my opponent,and when my FC lv3.j2c hits summoning george can pose problem. A couple of page back Jason said How and precisely when do you do this ? I end up blowing myself away when I try. Obviously there is something wrong with my input.

You should try delaying the j.c 2d slightly compare to the one you usually do when performing using normal jump. I think the trick here is to optimize the untechable time of j.c so that the 2d can pull them closer. For me i found super jumping using 2369 input helps me keep my foward momentum and altitude right. Though keep in mind that due to added height the lv2 j.c will make your opponent bounce higher than normal, which means it will aslo alter you timing if you're going to follow up the attack with 236b.

How could you get the 3c9d to work properly in CS ? I tend to crossover my opponent on few occasions.

I guess that one is just for show, what are the chances of 6A hitting an opponent who's after your ass? It clashes alot and comes out slow. Might as well just IB

Me too, I was expecting that rachel's mission mode will help me understand her CS incarnation more. But It turns out that it contains stuffs that we already know. Then again, it's geard towards new players that would like to try her out. Her mission 10 combo was pretty painful, it does look cool but 70 hits for what ? 4k+ damage ? It's probably similar to madao combo vid princess, the one that start with a corner throw then BBL followed by lv3 j.2c then frog whiff 5CC then another lv3 j,2c. It goes on and on. Deals pretty damage, though i'm not sure if this is what sanshiki means.

That's the thing, I have to wind myself downward to make sure its lv3. I guess its the D-pad. Her mission combos ? If you been playing as rachel since CT and know her BNB's then you'll have no trouble. They're petty basic, like what to do when you score a 6A counter hit, the basic oki after CDC etc. This would be easy if you're using PS3 since it has a nice d-pad. Though there is some interesting stuff, I think it was mission 8 and 9.

Regardless if its CT or CS,for me I found Ragna a good dummy for the lv2 j.2c combo. I seem to have a higher sucess rate with him compare to the other cast. Also for those who have tried the console version, I'm wondering if its an input issue on my part. Has anyone having trouble landing the lv3 j.2c after BBL? I know that this requires your opponent to be high enough so that you'll have enough time to land the j.2c without winding yourself downward. Still regardless of my altitude and timing I always get lv2 j.2c. BTW I'm using xbox when testing,

Unless we're going to attempt trolling 2 spikes make sense, you can end the combo with BBL if you have a meter and save the rest for an oki.

The purple rachel on that one is Erushii right ? cause I heard the commentator said that somewhere on the match. I've notice that when he manage to land a 2c counter hit to BBL, he then cross-up and summon a frog then 3c afterwards. Is it a good alternative than usual follow up like 236a,3c,iris (then do watever possible next) .I know that the cross up lv3 j2c deals more damage but tricky to pull. Your thoughts guys ?

Now we celebrate for gaining proficiency on the j2c spike combo, anyone has tried the j2c spike loop on madao new combo vid ? I can consistently do 2 at a row but 3 is just hard, I tend to have brain fart when I'm about to JC. Also I've notice that most character has a loop combo and they do hurt alot if they hit, So far this is rachel's only loop that deals significant damage (though not recommended).

watching http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11207167 that geno posted "... ... ..." at 3:04 rachel just used her astral ? that is something you don't see very often. If I was given an opportunity, I will perform astral when I manage to land a lv3 j2c during an oki on the corner. I guess lv2 j2c on the corner is suitable enough. I know its impractical, but hey it does work ^^

You can land a 6a as soon as they fall,it will still connect despite the smaller hitbox and added frames of the 6a. I think they wont be able to tech until they reach eye level or something. Things happens so fast that I barely notice but it does hit. How often do we use this ? When opportunity arises, it is indeed hard but fun to watch if it did hit. And does a decent amount of damage and that what all rachel player needs. Though wiffing this move can spell disaster, I'm suprised that the wiff c © wallbonce can render the oponent stun that long, I do hope that Arcsys wont nerf this one when the patch is released.

2b should used on Hazama when he's OTG, also skinny characters like lambda-11 and carl too.

If you have BB CT then it is possible to pratice it there, since this is a must to master. Possibly this means two things. 1, your timing on the cdc 214a is a little slow and you've already lost enough foward wind momentum 2, Or your doing it on a character that is not applicable for this set-up (ie Jin,Ragna,Noel etc.) The solution for no.1 is to summon the frog as soon as the second "C" connects (umbrella opens) This will give you enough momentum to push you foward to summon the frog right next to them, this pretty much works on the rest of the cast. However for some characters this just wont work, back in BB CT you have to use an extra wind for this to work on Jin, Ragna and Noel . So this will be (5b cdcd). Fortunately since we can now wind the frog in BBCS we can do it like this 5b cdc 214a 3cd. It still uses 2 winds but it gave us the opportunity to attack while the opponent is OTG. There is also a transcript of that combo vid on the first page of this thread.

Well I'm just having a hard time on the timing and I can't execute that combo completely .... yet. Besides when I bet most of us can't get a decent practice when we play on the arcade Haha.

I'm pretty much skeptic about that combo, is it guranteed that we'll gain enough tension during the process like arakune's lazer spasm combo ?

What's a good option if we manage to land a lv1 j2c counterhit? this sometimes happen to me when I try to take some risk when performing an jump overhead. is 236a the only thing we can do or activate a nearby pole (if there is one) or just RC it then to some BNB ?

Chances are you're probably not jumping high enough to register the lv2 j2c geno has already given some pointers how to increase the odds of success on the previous page. Okay looking back at combo that crazy crackers posted 5b 5cdc 236b dash 5cc wallbounce 214a1d 214c (frog hits) dash 236a 3c (1 hit) 214c 3c can we just buffer the 214a frog with wind (ie 21d4a) instead of inputing it seperately or it will ruin the timing ? I haven't tried doing that yet,

As glirandly said, it does feel the same, but the mechanics of CS rachel makes the combo more flexible rather than simply doing an aerial combo. Still its an thumb killing combo to execute.

After watching some videos on the err video section I'm still puzzled by the exact timing the j2c to re-launch the opponent to the air. I'm not sure if this is correct but I think it goes like (luncher) jb,jc,2D,j2c ? A little enlightenment on the subject matter is appreciated. and sorry if I'm a little lazy re-reading the whole thread if it already been answerd. ^^