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Info from the Drama CD "The Wheel of Fortune" Prologue: Church burning, Relius is chanting some poem. Terumi comes and throws unconscious Saya to Relius. Relius calls her important "Vessel". Relius asks about the other kid Terumi has because he's not needed. Terumi says that he's the one that wants Jin, since the power of order is useful. Relius asks about the Azure. Terumi gleefully says that he chopped off his hand when Ragna was spacing out. They need to leave because Rachel is coming. Terumi then tells Relius to make his body properly. Relius says that Terumi's vessel needs more time to finish. Terumi's parting word is for Ragna to work hard to be useful. Note: Relius was basically describing Ragna's situation (Terumi called it a poem, but it's more like narration). Something about being attacked so sudden, being so helpless, the only thing left was anger. Blah Blah. -------------- Part 2: Long Reunion Basically what Zephyr said. It's about how Tsubaki reports the first time to Jin. She is very nervous and practices calling him "Major Kisaragi" outside the door. When she enters in, Jin asks what she's doing here. Jin doesn't know that she's coming because he doesn't read her assignment documents. Tsubaki pouts. Jin tells her to stop calling him Jin nii-sama in the office. She gets flustered and Jin smiles. Relius comes to see Hazama and asks where that thing from Ikaruga. Hazama says that it's in the lab. Before Relius leaves, Hazama says that he has a request. Note: Jin is very formal (read: cold) to Tsubaki. -------------- Part 3: Friendly Daily Tsubaki catches Jin, who is trying to skip a meeting. She reprimands him and he gives up. He says that he's going to come back in time for the meeting. He tells her not to eat to much sweets and leaves. Makoto hugs her from behind. The two exchanges greetings and Makoto tells Tsubaki that she has chocolate on her cheek. Tsubaki gets very embarrassed, especially because earlier Jin spots her with it. She laments why he didn't tell her directly. Makoto says that him telling her indirectly is already more than what most people get. Tsubaki complains that he's very cold and secretive after the war. Makoto agrees that he's nicer before, but now he spaces out a lot. Tsubaki says that she doesn't expect him to return to what he was but she hopes to be able to make him a bit less cold. Makoto invites her to eat chocolate parfait. It seems that Tsubaki really likes chocolate. They talks about the grim reaper. Tsubaki knows nothing about the grim reaper. Makoto cannot tell her more about that because it's still confidential, but the higher ups are scrambling for a counter measure. Tsubaki wants a world without war and believes that the peace is maintained by NOL, so attacking NOL equals attacking peace. Makoto agrees. Hazama comes. He comes to the cafe for lunch because it has good boiled eggs or sth. He introduces himself to Tsubaki and snidely remarks that being a daughter of duodecim, she will soon be his superior. He asks Tsubaki if she is hanging there because Jin is pretty famous for being eccentric. He wonders if Jin is being nice to her because there is something between them. Tsubaki gets really angry. Hazama leaves after paying for Tsubaki and Makoto's bill, saying that there might not be another chance to do so. Before leaving, he tells Makoto to report to him after this. Makoto rages about Hazama, saying that his fake smile annoys the heck out of her. Makoto really hates liars. And that he definitely enjoys insulting people despite being polite. Tsubaki tells her to turn her voice down when talking bad about her superior. Hazama meets Relius and asks about a certain issue. Relius says, no problem. Relius is interested in Makoto, saying she makes a good ingredient for a Nox. Spirits about Noxes are more about quality than quantity. Strong spirits are the best. Relius says he learns this from Ada, her daughter. ----------------- Part 4: Creeping Doom Tsubaki is zipping around the office, looking for Jin. She bumps into Hazama, who seems to know where Jin left. Hazama asks why she’s so agitated this time, since Jin often disappeared in the past. He wonders if she has bad premonition. Tsubaki tells him that Jin has been very weird recently and that he has never left without telling her before. Hazama trolls Tsubaki long and hard. A short summary: Tsubaki is the type of person that feels empty if she is not needed. She uses her position as an excuse to “support” Jin because she desperately wants him to need her. But the problem is, Jin doesn’t need her and so he didn’t even stop to think about her before he left. Tsubaki almost cries hearing this. Satisfied, Hazama tells her that Jin left to Kagutsuchi. Tsubaki leaves. Ragna is lost in the NOL’s Kagutsuchi branch. He looks out the window and notes that the moon is really unpleasant that night. He notices Relius lurking around. Relius remarks that Ragna is a good ingredient and asks if he’s capable of controlling the Azure now. Relius then does sth unpleasant to Ragna (not described what) and calls Ignis to test Ragna. Ragna is losing but he refuses to activate his BlazBlue. Relius gets disappointed and leaves. Relius meets Hazama, who asks for his opinion of Ragna. Relius says that Ragna is a far cry from his expectation. Relius asks about the 13th unit. Hazama tells him the cocoon already opened and that she’s ready. Relius smiles and says that it’ll be interesting. Hazama is surprised to learn that Relius is capable of enjoying something. Relius comments that he is surprised himself. Note: the rest of the CD is going to hammer down the point that Jin doesn't need Tsubaki. Tsubaki almost cries everytime that's mentioned. ------------------------------- Part 5: Snake Venom Tsubaki is rushing to the Kagutsuchi NOL branch. Makoto is chasing after her to make sure she doesn’t touch the gate. Makoto trips and falls, taking down Tsubaki with her just before Tsubaki touches the gate and burns herself into crisps. They don’t have the permission to get in, because it takes 1 week to apply for one. Tsubaki notes that the gate is already open and the protective magic has been removed. The branch looks empty. Tsubaki wonders if the branch employees were evacuated because the grim reaper is coming. Makoto doesn’t believe that because intelligence department is not informed. She tries to contact her department, but communication is jammed. Makoto wants to go back to the ship to ask for reinforcement. Tsubaki wants to go in and find Jin. Makoto tries to persuade her to wait until reinforcement comes, but Tsubaki is worried that Jin is already fighting the grim reaper. Makoto has a bad premonition, but she finally yields after Tsubaki promises to run away if the situation gets dangerous. They promise to eat dinner together (Makoto’s home made stew) after this. Makoto tells Tsubaki to invite Jin and then leaves. Meanwhile, Jin is walking inside the branch when he notices that another moon is falling. If he doesn’t kill Ragna ASAP, everything is going mad. Tsubaki catches up with Jin, but he tells her very coldly to get lost because she is in the way. He then laughs creepily, saying that he will be the one to kill the grim reaper. Tsubaki tries to grab him, but he slaps her unconscious and leaves. Note: Jin talks to Tsubaki in that cold and contemptuous tone he usually uses for Noel. In her dream, Tsubaki sees 3 little kids playing happily, 2 boys and 1 blond girl. She recognizes one of the little boy as Jin. From afar, little Ragna tells the two to go back home. While walking towards Ragna, Jin compliments the flower crown made by Saya and asks if she is going to give it to Ragna. Saya gives the crown to Jin and says that she loves Jin nii-sama very much. Tsubaki freaks out and screams at Saya not to touch Jin. Tsubaki wakes up with Hazama on her side. Hazama notices the cut on Tsubaki’s forehead and asks if someone thrusts her hard onto something. Tsubaki asks about Jin’s whereabout. Hazama tells her that Jin is heading to the lowest level with the grim reaper. While Tsubaki staggers towards the elevator, Hazama comments that she will be a mere obstacle. Examining Tsubaki’s reaction, he gleefully asks if Jin has told her directly that she will just get in the way. Tsubaki gets angry. Chuckling, Hazama tells her that if she hurries, even she might be of some use. After a while, Hakumen and Relius arrive. Hakumen and Hazama exchange greetings. Hazama tells Hakumen that he goes by the name Hazama now, although he doesn’t really care how people call him. Relius agrees that names are pointless. Relius wonders if Hakumen escaped the boundary by his own will or if he had assistance. Hakumen provokes them into a fight. Relius refuses, but Hazama thinks that it’s a good time to “play” since Hakumen’s existence is still vague like a projection of a dream. They fight and Hazama is losing. Hazama asks Relius to help. Relius refuses at first because he dislikes physical labor, but he eventually summons Ignis to help. Hakumen asks about their objective. Relius tells him that their objective is to create the true Azure Grimoire. He also mentions on the side that Tsubaki is useless for that purpose. Hakumen is angry to find that they have been leading Tsubaki here, but before he can do anything, time-space interference drags him back to the boundary. Hazama sneers at how inconvenient to be someone bound to Master Unit. He then coughs blood and comments that he also overdoes it. Relius tells him that self-observation is limited and it’s his own fault to overdo it. Note: Hakumen and Relius talk about Ada/Nirvana a bit in which Hakumen accuses Relius of sth, but I cannot catch what that sth is. -------------------------- Part 6: Camellia Tsubaki arrives at the lowest floor. Ragna and Jin are busy fighting, with Jin being nuts as usual. Ragna knocks Jin unconscious. Tsubaki runs up to Jin and tries to shield him. Ragna angrily tells Tsubaki to get lost or he’ll kill her. Tsubaki refuses to budge and desperately tries to drive him away by punching him. Ragna thinks that she’s ridiculously stupid for trying to attack him while being obviously frightened. But after a while, he pretty much loses his will to fight and his anger. Jin wakes up and asks Tsubaki why she is still here (nicely this time). Tsubaki cries and tells him that there is no way she can leave him. Ragna feels awkward watching the two and asks about Tsubaki’s relationship with Jin. The cauldron opens and Nu appears. She’s nuts about Ragna as usual. Jin initially thinks that she is Saya, but upon realizing that he’s wrong, he asks Ragna who Nu is. Ragna tells him to shut up. Tsubaki is really frightened about Nu and freaks out. Nu notices Tsubaki and instantly decides that she hates Tsubaki. She tries to attack Tsubaki but Ragna blocks her. Nu goes berserk out of jealousy and the two fight. Tsubaki is amazed by their prowess, while Jin is worried about Ragna. Ragna loses and Nu finally manages to land her hug.exe. She is blissful with all the blood Ragna is spilling. Note: I’m not kidding, Nu asks for a hug over and over during the whole fight. Jin tries to get up and help Ragna. Tsubaki refuses to let him go. Jin snaps and hits her away. He angrily tells her to get lost and that he doesn’t need her. He yells at Nu to release Ragna (he doesn’t seem to be able to get up or walk anymore). Nu attacks him, but Tsubaki shields him. Nu decides that Tsubaki is indeed annoying and stabs her over and over. While Nu is distracted with Tsubaki, Ragna stabs Nu from behind. Jin tries to heal Tsubaki with healing ars but the ars won’t activate and he panics. Tsubaki tells him that it’s fine. She is happy that he calls her by her first name after so long. She invites him to the dinner that she promises Makoto to invite him and then dies. Nu watches over the drama intently. She tries to start a conversation with Ragna about it, but Ragna is already unconscious. She decides that it’s time to go. Jin goes berserk about Nu and chases after her. Nu doesn’t mind him, but declares that she will not hand over Ragna (very creepily in NOEL’S VOICE, not Nu’s voice). She then tells the unconscious Ragna that fate is unavoidable and jumps. Hazama comes and kicks Tsubaki’s corpse. Even after all those dramas, she’s worthless after all. But for a trash, Tsubaki is easy to manipulate, so she is still alright. He leaves, musing that this may be a happier ending for Tsubaki and laughs maniacally. --------------------- END Nu's acting is cringe worthy at times.

No more info provided what "strong" spirit means. I put in summary of part 4 in information thread, because I think it belongs there.

Part 3: Friendly Daily Tsubaki catches Jin, who is trying to skip a meeting. She reprimands him and he gives up. He says that he's going to come back in time for the meeting. He tells her not to eat to much sweets and leaves. Makoto hugs her from behind. The two exchanges greetings and Makoto tells Tsubaki that she has chocolate on her cheek. Tsubaki gets very embarrassed, especially because earlier Jin spots her with it. She laments why he didn't tell her directly. Makoto says that him telling her indirectly is already more than what most people get. Tsubaki complains that he's very cold and secretive after the war. Makoto agrees that he's nicer before, but now he spaces out a lot. Tsubaki says that she doesn't expect him to return to what he was but she hopes to be able to make him a bit less cold. Makoto invites her to eat chocolate parfait. It seems that Tsubaki really likes chocolate. They talks about the grim reaper. Tsubaki knows nothing about the grim reaper. Makoto cannot tell her more about that because it's still confidential, but the higher ups are scrambling for a counter measure. Tsubaki wants a world without war and believes that the peace is maintained by NOL, so attacking NOL equals attacking peace. Makoto agrees. Hazama comes. He comes to the cafe for lunch because it has good boiled eggs or sth. He introduces himself to Tsubaki and snidely remarks that being a daughter of duodecim, she will soon be his superior. He asks Tsubaki if she is hanging there because Jin is pretty famous for being eccentric. He wonders if Jin is being nice to her because there is something between them. Tsubaki gets really angry. Hazama leaves after paying for Tsubaki and Makoto's bill, saying that there might not be another chance to do so. Before leaving, he tells Makoto to report to him after this. Makoto rages about Hazama, saying that his fake smile annoys the heck out of her. Makoto really hates liars. And that he definitely enjoys insulting people despite being polite. Tsubaki tells her to turn her voice down when talking bad about her superior. Hazama meets Relius and asks about a certain issue. Relius says, no problem. Relius is interested in Makoto, saying she makes a good ingredient for a Nox. Spirits about Noxes are more about quality than quantity. Strong spirits are the best. Relius says he learns this from Ada, her daughter.

Relius was the one talking, and he was basically describing Ragna's situation (Terumi called it a poem, but it's more like narration). Something about being attacked so sudden, being so helpless, the only thing left was anger. Blah Blah. Part 2: Long Reunion Basically what Zephyr said. It's about how Tsubaki reports the first time to Jin. She is very nervous and practices calling him "Major Kisaragi" outside the door. When she enters in, Jin asks what she's doing here. Jin doesn't know that she's coming because he doesn't read her assignment documents. Tsubaki pouts. Jin tells her to stop calling him Jin nii-sama in the office. She gets flustered and Jin smiles. Relius comes to see Hazama and asks where that thing from Ikaruga. Hazama says that it's in the lab. Before Relius leaves, Hazama says that he has a request. I can only add one thing. Jin is very formal (read: cold) to her. More like, he sounds so... dead, as in no will to live.

A bit more about the new drama CD (I've only heard halfway), but a lot of nice info in addition to what Zephyr has written. Prologue: Church burning, Relius is chanting some poem. Terumi comes and throws unconscious Saya to Relius. Relius calls her important "Vessel". Relius asks about the other kid Terumi has because he's not needed. Terumi says that he's the one that wants Jin, since the power of order is useful. Relius asks about the Azure. Terumi gleefully says that he chopped off his hand when Ragna was spacing out. They need to leave because Rachel is coming. Terumi then tells Relius to make his body properly. Relius says that Terumi's vessel needs more time to finish. Terumi's parting word is for Ragna to work hard to be useful.

Where is this from? I cannot believe that I miss this. It's from the information in BB Material Collection. The book mentioned that the reason why Rachel turned Jin into Hakumen is so that Ragna can be reborn. And that Rachel never stopped Ragna from meeting Nu even though she knew Ragna + Nu = Black Beast because she genuinely hoped he would come out on top. I guess Ragna cannot be reborn without Black Beast dying first, and someone needs to kill that Beast, so I guess Rachel might as well enlist Jin. As for Rachel prioritizing Ragna over everything else, Hakumen mentioned it in his story mode in CS.

Very speculative, but, when the church was attacked by Terumi, maybe she gave him the sword for their defense. It backfired because Yukianesa flooded Jin with memories and broke him. It seems that Noxes manifest themselves when needed by their owners, like Noel's backstory.

wth. I actually never believe that Jin was jealous of Saya enough to want to kill her. I always believe that his feelings were the regular love and hate between normal siblings. I'm glad it's proven true. Thanks for the trans . Now to speculate on whether Saya gave Jin Yukianesa to screw him up or to save him. My hunch is for the 2nd one from Jin's tone when confessing. Timeline wise, Noel graduated 6 months early. She was Jin's secretary for more than 1 year. So Tsubaki should have been his secretary for over 6 months, assuming that she got assigned right after graduation.

They were not talking about throws, but flashy moves. Throw = nage, flashy = hade. Basically Imai complained that unlike Makoto, Tsubaki has no flashy moves. Another interesting thing is that Hakumen plush is officially called Pakumen. What were they talking in the end about Gii and Nago adult form with something to do with Kakki and Nakamura?

Wait a minute, Tager died around the church incident, right? By then, NOL and Ikaruga were on stalemate, so he can be from any side. Some people say that he's from NOL, some say that he's from Ikaruga, so I'm confused. I don't think Jin had anything to do with his death. It's just that everyone but a few in the game hates Jin.

Was Tager a NOL officer or Ikaruga officer before his first death? I flipped through the book and I cannot find the info in sections related to him. Someone mentioned before that the info is in the book somewhere. Can anyone tell me which section/page?

I would say that his arm and eye are some type of ars armagus, and thus need seithr to function. It used to have Azure Grimoire to help it suck souls directly from people, but when it's taken by Nu, they revert back to the lowly ars armagus. So, in the world where seithr was only abundant near the black beast, Ragna could only use it there.

It's speculative though. All we know is that Ragna and possibly his siblings are not humans. Not born normally =/= artificial (man made). Noel and her sisters are definitely made by other humans, but Ragna and his siblings, we don't know. They can be born from the earth ala. Son Goku or maybe even the corpse of black beast, or whatever. Heck, maybe only one or two were born by themselves, the remaining were artificially made. At this rate, the story can go anywhere.

^^ you are interpreting too deep. The Japanese dialogue can be interpreted both ways. I believe that Japanese doesn't have separate nouns for puppet and doll. On the other hand, despite my nitpick above, I do believe that the dialogue refers to artificial humans instead of tool.

Thanks for the translations! Poor Litchi, Lotte didn't seem to return her feelings.

^^ Her short story is more about Lotte than about her.

That's the problem! I don't think the developer ever said that. I've asked a couple of times and no one was able to provide official source. No one can even recall when or where they ever heard of this official statement. It's nothing more than a myth at this point. Practically the same for Rachel, though even more creepier. She's been stalking him for thousands of years. Plus, it's stated in Materials Collection, she did everything practically for him. She made Jin into Hakumen just so that Ragna can be reborn (she couldn't care less about Jin). She never stopped Ragna meeting Nu because she wanted him to get the complete "fake" azure while maintaining himself instead of getting transformed into Black Beast. She basically sacrificing the world for the offbeat chance that Ragna will be successful. (imagine Litchi, but much worse)

I believe this is an even bigger speculation than mine. Sorry for being nitpicky. I do believe that all endings in CT are possibility, but to me, there's a huge difference between possibilities and facts. I guess it's just due to my law background. Ah, great theory!

I think you misunderstood me. I agree that without Bloodedge, the Black Beast would be defeated anyway. I was saying that without the existence of Bloodedge, the next Ragna would not be called Ragna the Bloodedge.

If Ragna is his own predecessor, who is the original Bloodedge in the first timeloop then? This also proves that not all endings in CT happened in the past. The ending where Ragna completely fused with Nu and ate Noel alive before jumping into the cauldron cannot happen. Since this means that in the next time loop, there's no Bloodedge and the next timeloop's Ragna would be Ragna the plain vanilla instead of Ragna the Bloodedge.

Well, even if Hakumen had a hunch, maybe he couldn't confirm it until he saw the guy in person. It's just like how Jin never realized that Ragna the Bloodedge = Ragna, even though he had heard about the rebel for 2 years already. Until he saw the pic.

Please, please, please translate Rachel's.... I have Taokaka's translated halfway since it's the easiest. I guess I should finish it.

It is indeed a glaring mistake by whomever wrote the short story. The same book has a timeline which indicates that she's been his secretary for over 1 year. I believe that canonically the later is true, since Noel graduated 6 months before Tsubaki and Makoto and was assigned straight to Jin's division. But by CT, both Tsubaki and Makoto have graduated and started working. Which means that Noel has been Jin's secretary for over 6 months at the very least.

Where was it said that Arakune is fading away? I didn't know. Also, maybe Litchi is such a low ranked observer that she cannot make a big difference? After all, all the other observers are monsters in many ways compared to the relatively normal human like Litchi.

No no no, sorry, there's no character in BlazBlue that's "deep" by my definition, that's what I want to say. They are interesting, but just not that deep. Just what is an "observer" anyway. If Ragna being so angry at Terumi is enough to make his existence stronger, isn't Ragna technically one of Terumi's observers? It seems to me that as long as you have someone who either love you or hate you, you're all set. The higher the power of that someone, the stronger your existence.