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no that won't work 3c puts them airborne. and just for further reference the reason i had that combo was that it wasn't very proration specific.

theres a lot of really good ideas above but also some i don't think fit. like equalz thats a reason why a lot of people went to him bc he is the jack of all trades...but in ex he isnt lol's post is almost perfect in my eyes and it puts jin in what i think the right direction is except for having c dp faster, it should stay slower since hirensou is gdlk and fubuki exists fluck jins neutral requires him to be really defensive if he wants to be effective and jin can do that well and completely shut down the opponents approach but the problem is he doesn't get a reward worth it for the work he does in neutral. really though his jump normals are laughable guys, is there a character who has a lower average of hitstun on jump normals than jin...maybe tsubaki. i think a lot of people here think jin should go down the path of meter dependent since he has meter centered options. jins anti airs are godlike thats why he shits all over kune also jin isnt balanced in my opinion he is weak 6a p1 should be high around 100 or something TCSyd good point about 214d. also bb needs to fix its cross up system it is ridiculous how far on the other side of the opponent i am and its still not a cross up jins mixup would be really good...but maybe to good

oooo thats right i forgot dustloop could do that. so what youre saying is that the link got lost in the 400 page thread we have insted if it was the dustloop poll if would always be at the top of each page...ok i see

o shit i didn't mean to be going against you i was trying to say im with you lol (im really bad at typing) and id gladly be a member of your staff if its needed though id much rather learn to kick everyones ass in video games just ask and ill comply

so i guess i should voice my opinion since its wanted despite it being a little silly just bear with me... so i had written a lot of sentimental shit but i realized there is no point all that needs to be said is that i think Snci was an amazing weekend and i think SNCI should stay a 2 day event while the regular nci's should be a one day event if the people cared enough about it not being a 2 day event they should've used the gay ass little facebook poll that was posted here on dustloop, fuck i made a facebook just so i could vote on that poll why didn't you? and i went out of my way to convince other people to vote for the 2 day event. honestly i think the poll should be done again if we still have issues because there are issues with the current 2day tournament and i hope it gets fixed didn't pnw want a 2 day event? SCV having a low turnout is really sad to me because i was thinking that nci was turning away from the we only hold the underground games thing and would become more official but if they don't wanna show up then w/e we don't have to have their game kof13: is their some kind of rivalry between STA and GC why is their no cross breeds excpet dbz? we should start on time and DQ people. if they screwed around then it sucks to be them i don't think anyone will have a problem with this except maybe wolfkrone...but if youre good enough then just run it back or pick viper :D and i hope that nci becomes a more official event

well we can do random shit into 3c>214b(1)rapid>falling>j.2c>land JC>j.2c>j.c>j.d>land 6c>214c its net damage is 3000. it can turn some 1,400 damage shitty confirm with terrible oki and tiny corner push to a combo where you get around 3k with godlike cornerpush and good oki...its not always worth it or as versatile as ragnas stupid 5c>2d rapid into 4k shit but its still good and sometimes a great use of meter and this can probably be pushed farther than what ive got.

NO! he doesn't get to come back you don't leave the jin family, the jin family leaves you we hacked all his systems and his neisca profile so he can't use jin anymore let this be a lesson to all of you. We don't need you! You need us! i was sad i didn't see bbr top 8 i heard it was hype

hmm well mashing a 6frame move beats throw but your kinda right it really isn't as bad as i thought and 5b is still good

i didn't know what the fuck was going on in cs1 lol like i could do combos and that was it lol but ya 5b>5c is airtight (but so is 5b>2b) then you have to reset pressure by jumping or doing something else dangerous, what basically pisses me off is if the opponent has at least a 6 frame jab if they instant block 5b the only possible reason why they should be scared of mashing is if jin does 5b>j.2c at least in cs1 instant blocked 5b>5c was a frame trap at least i think it was. the thing about it is, it is difficult bc the opponent has to be comfortable enough to be able to let go of down back where 5b>2b would have already come out if i gatling it and start mashing. if i tried 5b>2c frame trap i would get jabbed if not they would still be in blockstun or the jin did the afore mentioned 5b>JC>j.2c which is probably character specific EDIT: this was also true in cs2 but jin had things to make up for it its funny because i thought i knew about this but i never really thought about and now im like what is jin good for??? hopefully someone can shed some light on this and prove me wrong :D

instant blocking jins 5b is hacks #jin has no pressure :{ EDIT: if you have anything to add lol id appreciate it lag free or not

anyone want to discuss match ups? i would start but i don't really know where to start

ggs to everyone sorry i was so salty/mopey i swear im not normally like that lol. shout outs to everyone new i met, im sad i didn't end up hanging out with you guys as much as i would've liked outside of casuals. but its hard to do so when you all go to the bars, damn alcoholics. shout outs to serervin for showing me how lambda should be played lol great finally meeting you. shout outs to notkbf for being all like "i fucking hate command grabs" then in our skull girls match you never tried to jump out of my tickgrab mixup clever pre-game trick. bastard shout outs to brkrdv with that damn get out of jail free card. shout outs to tier whore joe, cvs2, and making me come up with anti mokoto tech...im curious why arc system works hates squirrels so much shout outs to dusty for being a bro and giving me good advice shout outs to sg, stay godlike and loud. also fuck yo big tittied bitch but i will learn the ultimate pick up line to defeat her. shout outs to huey for exposing the fuck out of me and mashing out of frame traps.... and pretty boy combos.... shout outs to cor for the mu bomb projectile guard, sick shit and for failing at exposing vineeth in sfxt shout outs to the biter for hating valk because he takes to much work to play lol shout outs to shyn for destiny! but learning that it wasn't time quite yet shout outs to dsmoove for missing his flight so we could fuck around in the airport shout outs to don for getting overly hype (with nos) at roshambo lol shout outs to xie for boding me plain and simple i don't even think i took a round lol shout outs to stayfree good shit getting top 8 bro i was impressed shout outs to jay for teaching me some good spacing stuff in sfxt shout outs to the people that live in norcal but don't come very often sorry i didn't get to meet all of you but hopefully you will come to more nci's in the future shout outs to everyone else from Norcal you know i love you guys shout outs to me mashing in skullgirls that game is silly but it does seem like an improvement from marvel in my mind and shout outs to San Francisco on saint patricks night great weekend

yo...i know who im chilling with when i visit and marcell do you always win? I've only seen two of them and you seemed to win pretty convincingly. even if im wrong good shit to you for winning and to the rest of you guys for getting your scene out there i was certainly unaware of how strong your scene was till you guys started streaming. as for me i got mashed out of frame traps and lost to the midget characters at nci, i really thought the reason i was losing was i didn't have enough tricks and oki mixups but i didn't even get to use a quarter of the tech i made lol if the people weren't so cool i would've been really salty all weekend EDIT: the cinnamon challenge is the worst thing ive ever done

dang that stinks, i really wanted to play you. :[

the fuck you talkin bout? everyone riding srz's junk but he don't go here to enjoy it. tsk tsk EDIT: doesn't 623c give you better oki? in any case i like 623c oki over j.214b oki

waaaay to many steps for underpants gnomes to have come up with also i cant wait to hear how you got exposed for trying that shit on a smart player

hasnt that been known since the begining of cs2? i didnt think it was his special but w/e its always interesting to watch SRZ i can never seem to read him right. i really wanna fight him but i dont think our connections will allow it but ive never tried so idk. does he go to dustloop? also why EC/mid east got so many jins i wanna fight lol

...you guys make it seem like colors are so important...you should have MM with someone who wants the same color and the loser never gets to pick the color again. sidenote what combo so you guys do off of ch 623c i usually go for airdash variant if they can be 3c 214c'd and if they cant i do 623c>5c>2c>SJC>j.2c>j.c>j.d>3c>214c but i feel like i could be doing better

you should take me off these lists, i can't netplay anymore.

vids or it didn't happen.

ya i agree but i think that would make jin a lot more oki and rushdown based which i, personally, would not enjoy. oh well if we are talking about fun than jin is my very very girlish man. i enjoy playing as him a lot, the hit confirms that you can do know are really fun to try and pick the best possible choice and if you were wrong you can still do a cool looking combo as well with random ass gimmicks and yukkikaze i love jin...but i don't play this game just for fun anymore....lol if i could buff jin it would be a buff to his fireballs in one of the two ways first: allow jin to have one air fireball and one ground fireball on the screen at the same time as well as take away a lot (if not all) of the landing recovery for his air fireballs, this would make his screen control really strong and as such improving his zoning. second: make his fireballs do some obscene damage like 1000 or something, this would give him a much more rewarding zoning game as well as probably give him some cool fireball rapid combos.

wow shin your story played me i was thinking the story was going to end in the exact opposite way. but i guess youve got them reverse beer goggles...thats a gdlk trait lol about jin...honestly... he feels like a mess. what i mean by that is that he seems like he doesn't have anything going for him. in my mind every character in a fighting game either needs some thing that is good/to exploit in game or needs to be able to play a lot of mind games with the opponent i.e. off game, and i find it that when i finally am able to do either of those things with jin the reward isn't comparable to the other characters...but then again its way to early to tell. jins meta game could change dramatically in the next few months or so take this how ever you want btw i am more than happy to discuss meta game with anyone(in fact i urge you guys to) because as you may be to tell by what i just posted mines a mess lol... another thing i have to say about jin is that he is just to ineffective from to many distances and the ones he is efficient at other characters are more effective at those same, and usually other, ranges lol

lol i like how most of the people who play jin are also playing the same GG characters...including me. i fucking love how millia looks and from what i know about GG (which is very little) ky is a actual shoto unlike jin so i will playing both. oh except for hoshi but hes just a hipster so he doesnt count EDIT: btw who is going to be giving sf x t a honest try? i wasn't going to, but i keep hearing its really good which i just can't believe so now i wanna try it without any biases

ohhh duh im an idiot lol no i wasn't talking about ease of use i was talking about how good they are. i usually don't think of things like ease of use...and i think thats because of who we play lol ya i understand about wanting the game im glad i got it when i did because it took me a decent amount of time to change almost everything i did with jin lol and im still not used to this jin. but ya since every is about to have the game get ready to hate the ragna, valk, carl, tao, match up if you didn't already hate em like i did... oh and and, bang especially bang. god i hate bang

nope the repeat proration is to strong and i assume this is just for style right because i can't come up with a very good idea as to when to use it. EDIT: also hazama isn't nearly as bad as other characters like rag, hak, valk, carl, tao,