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[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
OneSanitarium replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
Oh hey, that wiki uses 'YRC' instead of just RC for YRC's. I've not seen a JP thing use that before. It's only used on the main page, and for notation in Bedman/Millia combos though. Still nice. -
If it's in fact 7+0, yes. As long as it's within range to hit after the super freeze, and they aren't already blocking, they can't block unless there were changes to how the engine handles that, and I don't think there was.
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Yo, H STBT is +3? There are some differences in things compared to the Kedako/Ruu stuff, though I'm sure some of those are my fault. VCL is -4 now. Still unsafe, but less so than +R. 2P is also definitely +3 now. HCL follow up is +3. It says 632146H is still strike invincible from frames 1-13. 4game also put together a small combo video. Which reminds me, we're going to need a combo thread soon, and someone to fully translate all this stuff. (I hate how they showed her Gatling routes. It looks confusing to me.) Ground throw is 45 pixels, air is 115. If I'm understanding it correctly, holy shit. And SM has 130 pixel range.
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OSCA training mode at about 39 minutes in. http://www.twitch.tv/joniosan/b/583051328 SM still causes her to move higher in the air, right? I want to say doing it from an airdash keeps her at the same height as before she inputted the command grab. I also wonder how normalized TK H Dive combos are. If we can get multiple TK H Dives in one combo on everyone, it'd be a nice corner combo option for meter. I do remember on the training mode I recorded, OSCA did like 3? on Ky. (Just over a month away.)
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[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
OneSanitarium replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
Her hard execution was largely attributed to 6FRC6. A Jump Installed HCL motion, and an FRC that involves a dash input that needs to occur over a very short period (the second 6 for the dash needs to happen within 4 frames after she FRC's). The feel for the timing of the FRC can also change depending on the distance of the opponent/when the move hits, and from what move she cancels from. I spent a long time just getting the motion for the JI'd HCL at first, so the removal of the need to do that and the move being auto jump installed, combined with the new RC system changes a lot. Now, she does 6P>5H>IADj.K for her midscreen meterless in Xrd. She could do it in previous games too, but it's a pretty damn tight link, and that's assuming you actually did the IAD perfectly. Xrd has an input buffer, so I assume that's easier, but I've seen Hasegawa drop it before...and he's sort a top 3 I-no at all times. Lowered execution, but it's not all gone. Also, if you had trouble doing Hoverdash~Airdash~VCL, or any specific part of that, it's not really going to be made easier beyond a shorter CL input. -
The move grabs the opponent and throws them at Zato himself, so IIRC he can do 6P into whatever. It's been a long time since I've seen the move though.
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Can you charge it? Regardless, it's just unblockable now. I don't think it has any super armor or anything. You can use RC to try and force it though. Also probably has use as a gimmicky meaty attack if you wanted. Beyond that, just try to condition them to block and blow them up for it I guess.
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[08/29/14] Yohei(IN) vs Suzu(SL) [Notes] Gamechariot (4 matches) [09/11/14] Hatage?(MI) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/11/14] Hitomi(SO) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/11/14] Taka(SL) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/23/14] KSG(PO) vs Yotsubato(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/23/14] Tenkaminari?(IN) vs Yotsubato(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/23/14] AGF(CH) vs Yotsubato(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/23/14] FAB(PO) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/23/14] Satoge(SO) vs Yotsubato(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/23/14] Ojii(MI) vs Yotsubato(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/30/14] Moga(SL) vs OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/30/14] Yotsubato(IN) vs OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/30/14] AbeC(BE) OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/30/14] Tarou(PO) vs OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/30/14] Shimokita(ZT) vs OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [10/03/14] ?(IN) vs Defure(FA) [Notes] Game a-cho ranbat [10/03/14] ?(IN) vs Defure(FA) [Notes] Game a-cho ranbat (3 matches) [10/11/14] 2rio(IN) vs Taka(SL) [Notes] Mikado Masters 3on3 [10/11/14] 2rio(IN) vs Roi(SO) [Notes] Mikado Masters 3on3
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You need to jump cancel the j.S, I don't believe you can do it from a j.S>j.D gatling.
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The second j.236P was probably just low enough to hit, but also low enough that she landed the next frame. Less than two months before people can actually test things! I'll get around to updating the video thread soon.
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I believe this to be of some entertainment.
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[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
OneSanitarium replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
Looking at all the frame data that Ruu and Kedako put out, every form of IK activation that has the super freeze effect is essentially 5F+(Usual total-10f)+5f recovery after the freeze. i.e. Sol's is 84f normally and 5f + 74f super freeze + 5f recovery. Ino's is 76f normally and 5f + 66f super freeze + 5f recovery. And the trend continues for every character from what I've checked. So yeah, start up and recovery. -
Notice he said, "...to win same frame throw situation...", meaning inputting 4K+H on the same frame as the opponents throw. In #R, it would read the 4H as a throw input, so neither throws would happen (resorting back to using the 4/6H that was used to input the throw) and because you were already holding buttons for a FD, you'll just FD. Not to steal Pichy's thunder, but here is a short video I did because it's 5 a.m. and wanted to demonstrate. Ky jumps in and does 4H~K, so he'd kara the 5H into FD if he didn't get throw. Sol gets thrown, to show it throws, inputs the 4K+H like Pichy said, and then does BR to show the OS against a normal unthrowable attack instance I suppose. Expecting to get a 1F counter against something the opponent may not even do isn't the most practical of things.
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[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
OneSanitarium replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
http://www.mediafire.com/view/0p8jx2cv4zi5znk/060-061.png via Kurushii~ Oh hey. Training mode. ONLINE HOLY SHITOHMYGOD AND STILL IN THE DARK. Yeah, this is pretty much going to be great. -
Just gonna make a new post with them because I'm slow. [09/19/14] Rokkachi(IN) vs ?(AX) [Notes] game a-cho (2 matches) [09/19/14] Rokkachi(IN) vs Deimo(KY) [Notes] game a-cho (2 matches) [09/19/14] Rokkachi(IN) vs Sanma(SL) [Notes] game a-cho (2 matches) [09/19/14] Rokkachi(IN) vs AO1(VE) [Notes] game a-cho (2 matches) [09/27/14] Sanma(SL) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Sanma(SL) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] FAB(PO) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Sanma(SL) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Nage(FA) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Tsu(ZT) vs Osca(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Karinchu(MI) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] OSCA(IN) vs Rou(SL) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] OSCA(IN) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Akuroma(ZT) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Maroshi(PO) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Ain(KY) vs Otouto(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Ain(KY) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Tsu(ZT) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/27/14] Karinchu(MI) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3
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[09/08/14] OSCA(IN) vs Azesuke(MA) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/08/14] MK(MA) vs OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/08/14] Itou(SO) vs OSCA(N) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/08/14] Azesuke(MA) vs OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/08/14] Rion(KY) vs OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/08/14] Ain(KY) vs OSCA(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/08/14] OSCA(IN) vs Toruso(MI) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/13/14] Otouto(IN) vs Hohiko(RA) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/13/14] Karinchu(MI) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/13/14] Satou(MI) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/13/14] FAB(PO) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/13/14] Satou(MI) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Enuou(IN) vs Adam(SL) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Otouto(IN) vs Adam(SL) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Otouto(IN) vs Rou(SL) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Otouto(IN) vs Rion(KY) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Enuou(IN) vs Jonio(SO) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Otouto(IN) vs Jonio(SO) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Otouto(IN) vs NOB(SO) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Hasegawa(IN) vs NOB(SO) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Hasegawa(IN) vs 2rio(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Enou(IN) vs Karinchu(MI) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Otouto(IN) vs Karinchu(MI) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Otouto(IN) vs Nakamura(MI) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/20/14] Hasegawa(IN) vs Nakamura(MI) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 (stuff to do will finish some acho i have to watch)
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I think it's Nakamura.
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Honestly, if you can get competition, play the game that has it. Actual match experience in a game that isn't as similar is better than no match experience that's a little bit more similar. Plus Xrd has things neither game has, so don't worry about it.
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[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
OneSanitarium replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
At 3:17, Elphelt does 4 shotgun blasts in a row. Every hit is techable, but If I stun someone near the corner, I'm doing a few of those if it's early enough in the combo. -
[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
OneSanitarium replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
I think FAB was just having a bad day. I've not seen him lose so convincingly in all the matches i've seen between him and an I-no. I-no is definitely good though, and her momentum is strong. -
[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
OneSanitarium replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
The song kicking in is making me pretty fucking excited. -
[09/06/14] Gazou(FA) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado Gazou Kumite [09/06/14] Rou(SL) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] Shaka(SO) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] 310(VE) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] Rion(KY) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] 2rio(IN) vs Konsome(PO) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] Hasegawa(IN) vs Jonio(SO) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] Hasegawa(IN) vs Nage(FA) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] Hasegawa(IN) vs Gazou(FA) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] Hasegwawa(IN) vs Konsome(PO) [Notes] Mikado 3on3 [09/06/14] 2rio(IN) vs Satou(MI) [Notes] Mikado 3on3
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[08/22/14] Defure(FA) vs Rokkachi(IN) [Notes] Game a-cho ranbats (12 match set) [08/22/14] ?(IN) vs Defure(FA) [Notes] Game a-cho ranbats [08/22/14] ?(IN) vs Defure(FA) [Notes] Game a-cho ranbats [08/29/14] Nana(SL) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado Eve of ArcRev 21on21 [08/29/14] Hiroaka(KY) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado Eve of ArcRev 21on21 [08/29/14] Ain(KY) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado Eve of ArcRev 21on21 [08/29/14] Toruso(MI) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado Eve of ArcRev 21on21 [08/29/14] Samitto(CH) vs Hasegawa(IN) [Notes] Mikado Eve of ArcRev 21on21 [08/29/14] OSCA(IN) vs Satou(MI) [Notes] Mikado Eve of ArcRev 21on21 [08/29/14] OSCA(IN) vs U-zen(IN) [Notes] Mikado Eve of ArcRev 21on21 [08/29/14] Hohiko(RA) vs U-zen(IN) [Notes] Mikado Eve of ArcRev 21on21
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Appears to have used Rashou Sen and RC'd it, which put him in very long stun. Actually didn't know you could RC that.
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[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
OneSanitarium replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
I wonder if her gun stance cancels will be able to function at a similar speed/use to Johnny's mist cancels. TGS isn't far away, at least.