Sundown

Yeah im having problems with the Millia torrent too, hope it gets fixed, since 100 Millia matches is like something that im really looking forward to... i mean... 100 matches... omg, yes please

I would like to know if this guide will come out, i still play #R (yes, even though AC is out lolz!!!, and itd be cool if it ever came out)

Sundown | Sundown | Mexico City, Mexico | Delay 4 Would love to play u guys, i hear the skill level in usa, specially in chicago, is awesome. By the way, im playing on keyboard... since the 2 sticks i own are for the ps2 / xbox, so please dont think im that horrible... if u guys ever play me lol. Im ordering the Virtua Stick High Grade from play-asia.com the moment they get more of it in stock, its for the ps3 but since its usb it should work for my PC... cant do shit till then, keyboard is so hard!!! lol i havethe hardest time doing dizzys throw combo, go figure

Thx for all the tips guys, its appreciated , yeah i think i will go with the safe j.s-h after 2H relaunch, i dont wanna be loosing matches just for the sake of looking cool lol . One more noob question and i promise this is it lol, im doing the 2H relaunch j.S-H H pin land 6H safe combo u guys gave me, but im having a lot of trouble landing the 6H as an untechable, my dummie almost always seems to tech after i hit 6H, ive tried doing 6H as soon as i land but it still techs. Any tips on the timing of this one? When the hell do i want to do the 6H? Thx for everything

Thx a lot man, yeah i noticed that it was way easier to do j.s j.h after the 2nd relaunch but for some reason i felt like i was "cheapening" the combo and i couldnt get a knockdown from it, now that i realize that is not the case i will be trying the combo you just gave me. Ill continue to try the 3 loops too, but probably wont be using that at competitive play, just wanna get that shit down lol. But hey, thx a lot, this combo looks way, way more reliable in a high preassure situation, so thx a lot. Still, ne good tips on hitting that god dammed j.H straight from 2H relaunch? thx a lot again

Aight so i got one more question hehe Regarding her hair pin loop, i am having the biggest trouble ever landing the j.H after the first 2H relaunch, and i really cant tell where my problem is since i get it to land sometimes (like 2 out of 10 times or something lol) but when i land it i feel like i did it the same way as i do it when i cant land it so i cant see where im fukin up and thus cant fix it . I am doing it against Axl, so i know its not any kind of "weird hitbox" problem, and i am doing the combo posted by Def1netly in the 3 loop knockdowns thread, so i know it works, so yeah basically i cant blame ne1 but me. Any1 got ne tips on how to fix this? Is it the timing of the j.H? or is my timing bad all the way from the 2H relaunch? Thx

Yeah, thats what ur hearing, u cancel the jump with a special EDIT: Fuk im late, u guys already discussing bout it lol, fuk college

Im also getting the temporary unavailable shit on Popeye , if some1 could mirros those videos itd be greatly appreciated

^^^^ Her fish still work pretty much the same (except for HS fish which now travels forward way more and takes a bit longer to activate), the difference is that she can now switch the fish on the fly. For example dizzy can do a P fish which will still bite 3 times, and then before the fish going away she can switch it to HS fish so the fish, instead of dissapearing will shoot out the laser. We still dont know if u do it by negative edging the 2nd fish or by doing another fish motion.

Did u guys see the crazy ass HUGE hitbox on Dizzy's FB bubble?

^^^^ Holy shit, how big is that thing??? Of course it changes a hell of a lot man, that thing has the most deceiving range ever WTF... Suddenly a KD in the corner -> fish -> bubble -> air spike pattern just became way, way more scary.

I know it is way tooooo early for tier lists to be reliable, but in almost all of them Dizzy appears to b in either B tier or A- tier, which means an upgrade in Dizzy from where she was in Slash- What do you guys think is responsible for this so-called upgrade? I mean we all know how HS fish got raped as an oki tool, and obviously the japanese making this lists know so too, so why are they listing her up there? Is it because of her new HOLY-SHIT-GATLING gatlings? or her switch-fish-on-the-fly ability? or 2D JCing?, what is it in your opinion?

Thx man, gonna check that out bro EDIT: Oh if ur offer for Ethereal S (bout uploading lamentation of a soul) is still up, id appreciate it

rob0t in the help thread everything is explained, if not, ask there.

^^^^ Yup, thats why we are trying to come up with some weird ass switch-fish-on-the-fly pattern to try and find something that could replace the HS fish lockdown , we need HS fish lockdown!!! lol t_t

^^^^ He is right, im sorry for misunderstanding the question . Yeah if u want the knockdown u have to land the combo.

Ahhh you should be one rushing them down with Millia lol, i guess just block correctly, FD correctly, and HS disc here and there hoping for them to fuk up n get hit by it / block it. But yeah u should be trying to rush them down, not the other way around, if they do a lot of jumpins, ur 5P should be able to work as a pretty decent anti-air, i dont no wut else to tell u man, its not typical for a millia player to be in rushdown problems lol :P.

Nope, that was only an observation i had from only ONE video, havent seen it tried in ne other videos nor confirmed it could work constantly. I also really want to see some1 try THROW -> K FISH (meaty bite) -> switch to HS FISH afte the bite. Im thinking that could be a very reliable way to get the laser fish lockdown in time, wed just have to get the timing down perfectly for the K fish and then switch.

I havent seen it either, but i dont see why it wouldnt be there nemore, Dizzy's changes were in other areas i think, only change Dizzy suffered in AC involving the bubble loop is j.H being a lil bit slower, but i dont think that will have a massive effect on that combo making it useless or something like that.

I didnt mean whiff, i meant like hit as in block or not block, my fault, bad phrasing i guess. I guess the correct way to say it was "And if youre applying preassure you can do that too, doesnt really matter if the 2D hits (and knocks down) or gets blocked by the opponent, u JC it anyway" There we go i think its clearer now

No, if u do the throw combo with the perfect timing it cannot be teched. If you pay close attention to the Millia videos u will see that in one of them, i think it is the MI vs PO one, the MI player gets the timing perfect and the BEAT thingy never turns black, which means untechable rite there. Just gotta time it right.

I think it should work pretty well both ways like, if u need to run out of there, 2D JC and bubble to cover your runaway. And if youre applying preassure you can do that too, doesnt really matter if the 2D hits or not, u JC it anyway, Bubble, AD and pop the bobble or w/e mixup you wanna go for from there u know, the 2D -> JC -> Bubble gives u a lot of versatility.

2D JC cant work as a launcher, its done to make ur poke strings safe, basically, if ure doing a string and ur opponent is blocking everything just finish it with a 2D (for example, a 5H 2D which gatlings) and JC the move to be completely safe and runaway. I dont think we will be seeing any more combos off of 2D since the FRC from 2D was removed.

Soooo i was watching these new videos just released of Dizzy and the DI player did throw -> BACKDASH (real quick, like the moment the throw recovery ends) -> HS fish... and surprise surprise thx to the lil backdash the DI player did and the new faster-moving-more-advancing HS laser fish fired just on top of the opponent and got the lockdown... now i dont know if this would be consistent or it was just some weird thing or the opponent didnt wake up in time but hey, figured id let u guys know.

Im guessing the fish switch would be done by negative edging, but i dont think that info has been posted yet so really i have no clue either. Hopefully K fish -> HS fish turns out to be a viable lockdown option to make up for the HS fish fuk up.