B-RAi

Anyone down to head up to Super Arcade on Nov. 17th for the Atlus Championships? The games featured are P4A and KOFXIII. Theres no venue fee and its 5 bucks to enter per game. Ill be willing to pitch in for/split the gas cost if someone can spot me a ride. I live right next to the I-15 off the Mira Mesa exit or maybe i can meet up with you at ur place/ a public area near your location. I would offer rides but my car seats only 2 (if the situation happens to be then i can give u a ride and we can split the gas). If i have to, ill drive up there myself but id rather not pay more for gas if i dont have to. Im a college student with limited funds D: And sure enough sharing the gas cost benefits not only me but you aswell! :P srk thread is here for me information: http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/level-up-presents-atlus-fighting-championships-kofxiii-p4a-walnut-ca.170609/ jus pm me or leave a reply here in the thread. thx edit: a side note i suppose. i also might have a friend or 2 that might be interested in going if you dont mind bringing them also. i can jus have them go to my place or ill bring them with me to a meeting spot. so yeah. thx haha

i can probly make it on saturday. if nething cya guys there!

@xcele, i cant say for sure but at least in my experience attending the dustloop casuals, ppl will play it as long as theres a setup for it. (also some of the people here only play blazblue atm). hope that helps

@shtkn, it seems that way. just something about a bug with yukiko's agidine right? (i saw the tweet). tested mitsuru and it doesnt seem like there are any changes (frame adv, hitbox/hurtbox, proration, dmg, etc.) just to make sure ;]

random side note. apparently P4 got patched. atlus tweeted that some of it included game balance and there arent any patch notes posted ANYWHERE. it concerns me. whether its true or not im not sure. and perhaps the was they worded "game balance" could loosely be interpretted (like how they mentioned primarily fixing bugs and not character specific tools or something). ill be testing mitsuru and kanji right now to see if these changes hold true

hows it goin pplz? so apparently theres this charity tourney on saturday sept 29, that includes AE 2012, P4A, TTT2, UMVC3, and SSBB with a bunch of casuals and things on the side. its 5 bucks to enter per game and 15 to enter all of them (if u wanna do that). info about the tourney: -for those that have facebook account i highly suggest looking at this link http://www.facebook.com/events/400369760017764/. Its pretty much got what you need to know compiled on a single page. -heres the link to the official website http://happybdayFGC.wordpress.com/. click on the tabs on the top for more info its located at the ansir innovation center in kearny mesa so for those who have been to saltmines already, its a building in the same block (correct me if im wrong on that). as for the prize i have no idea. it could possibly be that the prize money is taken from the entrance fee as 1 buck to venue 2 bucks to charity and 2 to pot or something like that i suppose. If not then im probably guessing that theyll be giving out sticks and other stuff. this is "supposed" to be a pretty big event for san diego but i rly dont know so well see what happens on saturday. idk whats gonna happen but the event itself is pretty well advertised except that its not listed under the tournament section for SRK, DL, etc etc etc. welp. hope to see you guys there ;]

welp. i guess i cant make it to saltmines tonight. thats a first for me on a monday night D: I have this paper thats worth a quarter of my grade and considering how important that is i decided that i should really refine it. (which at the moment i suppose its passable but thats not good enough). ill be there at pangea next week

hiya! for those attending saltmines on monday there is currently a poll on facebook to vote for which game will have a side tourney for this week. they are changing things up a bit a apparently. theyll have a main game each week for tourney switching off AE and marvel and they will do the same thing for the non capcom games as well. itll switch off from P4, TTT2 and KOF. anyways, heres the the link for the poll if you hav an FB account http://www.facebook.com/questions/468286676538916/

ill be going and @ ichipoo unfortunately i dont have a monitor on me :c i can bring an xbox console with a copy of p4 but thats it

EDIT: nevermind. i wont have the ps3 on hand......... my sister took it to LA apparently........if anything ill jus go there and do some hw and see if shtkn shows up later and also that one dude that brought catherine and p4 will show up. idk . if anything ill play a bit of AE and tekken and go home. so in other words. it might or might not be worth it to go for only p4. w/e happens, theres next week then i suppose

sounds good. thx for the heads up shtkn. -i can bring an xbox with p4 but i dont have a monitor. if someone can provide that then that wood be great -i can also bring a ps3 but i dont own a ps3 copy of p4 and yet again no monitor. if someone could help me out with the monitor and or the p4 ps3 copy problem that that would be great thx and jus pm me and lemme no

hows it goin toki? how often do u swing by SD btw?

also another note...... i need a ride to xies ranbat this saturday. i live about 3-5 mins away from the I-15 and im willing to split the gas cost with you. jus pm me if you would like to pick me up. thx -B-RAi

poo. i cant bring a setup :c on another note. interesting turnout at saltmines on monday. there were a bunch of faces ive never seen before anywhere at an SD venue ( the following places include frubble, TTF, UBS, CO, DL sessions). And interesting enough maybe a good 8-10 of them were playing P4. Hope to see these people coming back sometime. We definetly need more people sticking around in the san diego scene in general. but well jus hav to see i suppose.

il be going today ;]. might or might not have a setup

i had a dental surgery today D: ill be there next week

whos going/wants to go, to wednesday night fights this week? i dont have access to the car for a couple days and i wanna go before the semester gets rly busy;.; (school jus started for me couple days ago). a couple friends and i are willing to wait at a certain spot for pickup and we will all chip in 10 bucks in gas ($30 total). plz msg me if your interested. thank you ;D -B-RAi ps. shoutouts to you guys that made it out at saltmines on mon. more p4 setups than AE and marvel agn...... haha :P. i also dont think ill be able to attend satlmines and ttf as much once the school semester picks up in workload :c

busy weekend for me ;.; ill be at saltmines monday with a p4u setup. if you guys would like to join us then thatd be awesome ;]. taking adv of the free venue :P. cya tomoro~ B-RAi

yep i agree. reliance on setups is the same anywhere. but my worry is that if the attendance drops then the setups drops. and with less setups maybe more people will be less inclined to show up. its happened before. and yeah thats thing with some tournaments now. whatever happened to staying hungry? losing and wanting to get better to body the guys that basically took your money in tourney? the mentality is still very much like that at TTF. Playing to get stronger, better, bodying that guy that beat you in tourney, and then maybe winning some cash in the end. But most of all having fun. but i suppose as long as people are continuously playing and showing that be fine too. They'll get it eventually. they are paying the venue fee out of their pockets which is beary fanastic! i just dont want to see their efforts go to waste is all if people end up dont showing up in the end :c. the great news is the saltmines crew is very open to input from these communities, TTF, DL, dreamcancel, 8WR and etc. Lets hope that we can cooperate with them to make this weekly session grow as a whole. i just want people to actually show up. droughts in the SDFGC has happened before and its quite depressing actually....... like this one time the box arena tuesday casuals went from a full house down to 8 people until they decided to stream weekly and what not. And its happened at TTF too. i know the dreamcancel community and 8wr are having a hard time atm which sucks :c welp. lets makes sure that doesn't happen again ;]

i think they are doing the meetings once a week on mondays :/. i dont think its necessarily open for us to use to our convenience as was frubble was. there is a venue fee but the saltmines crew paid it off out of their own pockets. but even so frubble had different things going on each day too right? like box on tuesdays, dustloop on fridays, and open mic night on thursdays and so on. i guess it doesnt hurt to ask though :]

Thx guys for making it out tonight! For those that dont know or didnt get my name i was playing mitsuru with standard color but artemesia with the black/gold color. We had 3 P4U setups. THAT IS AWESOME. More setups than AE haha :P (ugh. long lines for ae........) and many marvel setups........ (i dont like marvel. that game is to dishonest for me) . I saw ALOT of new faces today which is very good. The TTF crew (south san diego community for capcom games, and p4u if it picks up), 8WR (soul calibur crew of sd), Dustloop, and a bunch of other people ive never seen before made it out to support the opening night of the san diego saltmines! I personally like the venue. its a nice change from peoples houses (not that thats a problem). And theres alot of room out in the bakery to chill and take a break. I dont like the parking though. However I do have some concerns if this venue will actually hold up or not (as in consistent attendance). And ill list a couple reasons why. -The organization I was actually there fairly early at about 5:15ish to check out the area. It seemed that the crew running the the setting up the locations of the tables tables and chairs kind of just went in there and put things where they felt like it. The tables with the outlets to the side of room where a nice a idea but it was rather difficult to move in the backbecause the tables placed in the middle and the back and little to no walking room. So if you wanted to play whatever was there then getting there would be tough. I also noticed alot of unused space to the right side of the room (when walking in through the doors). Which honestly could have been utilized more effectively. Perhaps to widen the walkways in between the setups and what not. -Reliance on people bring their own setups. It isnt necessarily a bad thing at all. But for a public venue it could be. It would mean that waiting in line to play games might be longer if the attendance drops. The crew themselves only really had 1 dedicated setup for running their tournaments and the rest were brought out by the players. Monitors would be more than okay. Like at TTF theres alot of monitors laying around with chairs and its a whole lot easier for people to bring just their consoles. Lots of people feel inclined to bring out their consoles but not many people own a monitor that can be easily carried out. It's like this at frubble as well. They have 2 donated ps3 setups and a bunch of asus monitors in the store room. Same with Comic Odyssey on saturday night fights, they have 1 console and 3 monitors already ready to be used at the location. -Tournament organization. They only ran a marvel tourney and not street fighter aswell so i didnt answer. but i talked to a few of my friends and the ttf crew about what was going wrong. They made the matches a 3 out of 5 set made the tourney long for no reason. They could not get the stream equipment to work properly and only streamed off a PVR (it basically records whats on the monitor and archives it on the laptop. then they would stream the feed running from the monitor to the laptop to the internet. Its not ideal because there is a huge lag time). They also didnt know how to run the stream equipment properly so i suppose matches were held or delayed and what not til they found a fix. The tiered system they are using to make the brackets simply just wont cut it (more info about it is at the SRK page). It basically pays the top 3 of an adv,int,and beg tier. Its stupid because theres not enough money going in to pay out the people with equal increments (like, 1st place in all 3 tiers in get equal pay or w/e). And people could just sand bag as well to stay in a lower tier. Whos to say this system really judges how good someone is? It doesn't AT ALL. And theres alot of players that are simply the best players not not necessarily when it comes to a tournament environment. Most importantly though its not fair to someone whos obviously invested more hardwork and time into the game than someone who didn't. Their excuses for it is as quoted on srk ,"whats the point if dios x wins marvel all the time). First off. He does'nt. Theres alot of good players that can beat him and DO in tournament. They just arent nationally known or anything. and 2nd but most important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! isnt the point in playing in tournaments is to play people, get hungry/stay hungry, and get better all at the same time?! to win? to aspire to become stronger? whats the point of hosting tournaments if their given off mentality for it is to hinder what i just mentioned in the last sentence. If they really wanted to encourage people more why not just do a top 6 or top 8 payout? Itll enourage newer players to try and get better and at least have some goal to shoot for. -The TTF crew impressions. (not all of them of course. but i suppose the general opinion right now) We dont know for sure if we will see continued support from them. They dont like the disorganization from the crew at all. And the tournament system mentioned above. If the crew hosting the SD saltmines is willing to cooperate and take input from the TTF crew then maybe they will keep showing up. It would be a shame because its a big community and support from anyone and everywhere in the FGC is a plus. All in all they will give it a chance. but if things are running as they are now i would expect to see dropped attendance from them and what not. Overall though i did have an enjoyable experience. what i mentioned above are my opinions of if attendance drops at this new fighting game venue and why. some people kind of forget that the venue fee is FREE. yeah they dont know how to run it properly yet but would it hurt to help some lending hands? Our SD fight scene should be able to grow provided that the support is there. why shood LA and norcal be the only ones with 100 man weekly brackets? why not sd too? shoutouts to ALL of you guys for coming out! i know some of you might have not been able to make it but the support from you guys just by simply showing up shows. it shows that you care. so thank you and i look forward to playing some more P4U with you guys! P4U is so much fun! -B-RAi sry if this post is a bit long and i dont expect people to read the whole thing really. but if you did great! its jus that i really care about our FGC as whole. and we should all grow together as a whole to get more people to start coming out and what not. i feel that this information shoulkd be out there to discuss if people would like to. that is all~

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we got sticks ;]. yeah sry about that if its a bit inconvenient. if you didn't know already, the main reason behind our usage of the 360 is because AE2012 is an imperfect port. the 360 version is the closest to the arcade board and the ps3 one lags. theres also an issue with marvel but idk cuz i dont play that game. were not entirely happy with capcom either haha........ and i know frubble used ps3 but that was decided upon bcuz evo uses ps3s and so forth. awesome. welp im about to head out and take care of some errands real quick. looking forward to meeting you guys there! -B-RAi

sry for the late reply x.x -My friend and i will be bringing one for sure (a ps3 and a monitor), i myself have a 360 that im willing to bring out but theres no portable monitor for it sadly -Jigoku_Roa might be able to make it out. If so then he will bring a set up -Maku (sf and marvel player, and now p4) if he can make it out then we can expect a 360 setup of p4 from him -Bakermann (sf, kof player, and now p4) if he can make it out then he will have a 360 setup -Casey (sf, and p4 player) if he can make it out then he might or might not bring a 360 setup (i have not confirmed this with him yet) so everything is kind of up in the air right now depending who can or cant go. but i will say that 1 setup is guaranteed atm

Excellent! Sounds great :] hope to see you guys out there xD