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I is jeluz.

Fumajins. Fumajins Everywhere.

Its not like you can get Yuki'd halfway across the screen.

Shoutouts to Ratix08, Dreize, the other dozen Ragnas who have no identity, and especially to Safros, who took a raw astral to the balls like a real man. I have to say I've never seen someone taunt right next to someone with the glowing astral portrait. Balls of steel indeed.

Kishuu>TK Tsubaki perhaps? Though you're definitely right in the fact its not something to rely on at all. Punishing Inferno Divider is probably the next best thing.

Don't forget though, Not only can a Valk alter his w[5B] timing, Haku can alter his j.D timing. Going with j.D instead of 5D is a lot more fun because: <1> Grab invulnerable <2> Anti-low <3> 2k without execution <4> Magic oki <5> Lack of execution required makes you seem a lot scrubbier And yes, my pink Haku is obviously pro. Just like my pink Bang and his infinite FRKZ grab mixup. I've destroyed many a Haku with Bang's grab "abuse," not spam :P

Not quite sure about this, but making it minimum air grab height would be more than reasonable. I mean, the current TK j.D kills any rock-paper-scissors game we had against him. Not only could you not air-to-air or anti-air him, you couldn't grab him either. Besides, according to Aksys, Agito is supposed to be his new ani-anti-air, not j.D.

I know, like I posted in the Valky boards. You can actually win the entire match using nothing but j.D, Yukikaze, and the occasional grab. I've done it numerous times before against good Valkenhayns using my pink Haku.

* 2D counters low/mid, 1F startup. * 6D counters high/mid, now has 10F startup, short recovery, highly buffed proration (45% > 80%), possible to combo without OD. * 5D catches high/mid, now chargeable (charge lengthens active frames at the cost of lengthening recovery). * j.D now has minimum height requirement, otherwise unchanged. Personally I think they're just f*cking with his drive for the sake of proving that this isn't just some rehash of CS. It wouldn't have hurt to just change * 5D active 16 -> active 10 * 6D active 9 -> active 10 (no raw damage [like CT], proration buff 80%) * 2D active 8 -> active 10 * j.D active 7 -> active 10 (minimum height required) The whole chargable 5D thing is awkward. That, and 5D really didn't need the 16 active frames it has. Just -6 from 5D, and "spread" the remaining active frames towards the other drives (6D, 2D, j.D). Credits to Ratix08 for taking the time to daydream all this.

Hazama 6A perhaps?

Mash j.D on everything. It's invulnerable to grabs, beats any Valky air-to ground, beats pretty much all his ground attacks, and best of all, beats w[5B]. If you TK the input, you can't even get air grabbed. Ask Dreize in the Valky forums. He's killed many a child over this.

Mash j.D, I have yet to lose with this tactic. Why bother with combos?

I'm sorry, only Golden Tager has access to the wings.

No one posts here because Valks never have trouble with Hazamas But jokes aside, this is very similar to the Lambda matchup in the fact that you want Haz to whiff shit, you don't want to block it. Best example: Rising Fang. As much as I hate to admit it, this absurdly impossible to punish. ON BLOCK. However, the recovery on whiff is a godsend for you guys. A CH 5C>Nacht Rosen on the ground or j.5C in the air does nicely. Neutral: <1> Same thing with the chains. Just like Lambda, you're not going anywhere if you block them, but make them whiff and you've changed the tide of the match. Unless he decides to "run run." He still has to watch his stock though, and w[j.5B] can snag him as he's flying past you, assuming he's not mashing j.5C for a GORILLION DAMAGE. That, and Beast Cannon often clashes with chains. Be prepared for that. <2> You really don't need neutral Nacht Jager to win this match. Blocked Nacht Jager, like in any other matchup not only kills your momentum, Haz is one of the lucky bastards who has a 6 frame 2A, which makes this an especially bad idea. And no, you cannot haz wolf cancel. <3> Mash him out of 214D~A. Just do it. It has yet to fail. HOWEVER, if he catches on and decides to 236D, a CH will fling you across the screen, and you'll have to chase him down all over again. <4> Run around with w[5B] if he's chucking chains in the air. Or if he's using 214D~A. Or if he whiffs a 214D~B. Or if he's using any standing normals. Or if you don't know how to play this matchup and you want to make Hazamas rage and flip over desks. Just be pesky and abuse this shit. 2B is his most rational option against grounded wolf, and that has a 10 frame startup, a risk not exactly in his favor. <5> 4C/7C Rising Fang, he whiffs that, damage get. Or go for the 6A if you enjoy being raged at. <6> A brave Hazama is a dead Hazama. So is a predictable one. Avoid being just as predictable when using Valk. CLIMAX TIME: The part of the match when Hazamas go running around with 50 heat trying to Hotenjin you. Have fun guys: <1> 6A beats it on reaction <2> Superwolfblitzcombogroundsuper beats it clean. Unless he blocks it. Then you have to pray the knockback is large enough to save your furry hide <3> j.5C can make it whiff if you're directly above him in the corner <4> 6B wakeup on his wakeup SHOULD beat it out based on my experience, but I'm not quite sure how meaty this really is If they don't like it raw and actually bother hitconfirminig like a good Haz, then: <1> 2A>2A>2A>5B>2B>3C>Hotenjin. Don't even bother bursting out of this. This is the saddest waste of meter I often see Hazamas actually do online next to using RCs to red beat the TK Loop <2> Chain confirm>Hotenjin. Again, nothing to really be afraid of <3> Any other confirm that didn't begin with a A attack nor surpassed 2 hits prior. You probably wanna burst here. It's like, his only source of real damage. The psychological damage you inflict on him using this burst is more than anything he can inflict on you with the Hotenjin.

Not like I know how to play Tager...but won't Voltic Charge be like baiting him out with doggy biscuits? Whenever Im playing Haz or Tsubaki, Valky turtles fly in like theres no tommorow whenever I go into Serpent's Benediction/Charge. No one like to see you being productive just by standing there.

I hope I see moar Hazama Tsubaki-netorare troll. It was entertaining to see Haku flip his shit seeing that.

GGs to Tesnolgic, Ratix08, and poor ciber kusanagi. I am not in any way responsible for Inpherino Dividah spam.

Damn it, you guys are way too good at this.

I would, but Dustloop put a 4-line limit for sigs. I'd have to be a mod or something to break through THAT.

Everyone sigs mac. Except for mac. Thought I'd break the trend.

sig'd EDIT: Fixed. What kind of Chie player can't spell steak?

I know I know. Im a Hazama player. Nitpicking and trolling is a part of me You have to love dem tsunderes who think stylin a beret is an excuse for wearing kneesocks and skimpy skirts. :drool:

Ragna: Jin: Saya:

Thats my problem. It isn't EDIT: Dammit. Spider-Haz got here before me