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I am a goddamn idiot. Blame me staying up late on that one.

Do we have any info on what the 236C/D imput is? Cause I'm drawing a blank. Also apparently none of his command throws use Persona anymore, according to the command list. Maybe having the Persona unbroken will just cause more damage or something. And I guess I'll move 5C paralysis to unconfirmed until we get something concrete on it.

So shoulder charge looks like it might also be on regular Kanji? Argh, this would be so much easier to sort out if we had actual footage of someone using him.

Maybe not, considering we have no clue when it'll even see a JP Console release. CP could feasibly be done and out the door by the time they start porting to consoles.

Like how there was no reason to region lock P4A in the first place?

According to SoWL in the news thread Kanji can command throw without his Persona now. That's a nice buff if anything.

I'm thinking they'll have to move the location of the baseball graphic if only because shit'll get really confusing during a Junpei mirror. Probably to over the meter bar like the rest of the cast.

alright, thanks kindly Omex, first post is updated with what we know.

Depends on the character, really. Aki barely does shit with his Persona so it's probably not a big deal for him.

August 16th-18th

good point. If the above is true it might be easier to deal with his crappier matchups. Only thing I'm thinking in regards to the shoulder tackle move is that Kanji may have just gotten Hammerfall.

Command grabs without Persona does sound crazy if it's for regular Kanji. With only 3 cards to work with we'll probably have to start relying on specials that don't use Persona. Unless they decreased the time that it's actually out.

There are certainly more characters that could get into Arena, and the way the character select is there's room for two more characters on the P4 side. At this point it's nothing but speculation, though.

Seconded.

Freshly updated with new P4U2 info! Currently Known: (thanks to Omex and stunedge for translating stuff) LOKETEST #3 INFO AS OF NOVEMBER 18TH, 2013: 214D fatal recovery j.c hitbox nerfed, harder to anti anti air, can’t do instant j.c, fatal recovery, cannot take air actions afterwards, comes out slower they nerfed the tackle 5C does not fatal counter, full charge does still 5B gatling is unchanged form last loketest Can cancel last hit of dial A into either air cruel attack or j.214a due to the j.C hitbox nerf so it does not hit people if you do instant j.c, it has also become weaker as an anti anti air. Shadow Kanji Combo - Dive > 236236AB > 236236AB > 236CD > j.B > 2B comboed, damage was around 3100. 214CD does 2568 214D has increased forward momentum, same with 214214CD Charge 5B might be + on block 5C still paralyzes 5AA still advances him forward Dial A is much improved Both arms have a hitbox for j.C j.C is slower, doesn’t hit standing opponents, Fatal Recovery All CMD grabs have Fatal Recovery Less gatlings with 5B? Mobility still reduced D moves no longer have projectile invuln Tackle performance reduced 214C Invuln removed note - as of day two, kanji’s 214c is no longer FC recovery. lol? 236236AB counterhit does 3720 214214CD does 5500 (supposedly) (first time it’s had a damage buff) 2C dash cancelable Can combo his current dial A into j.214A for a hard knockdown, though it sounds like the current auto combo leads into j.236A/b 5C > 2D is now a gatling TK j.236AB has a ‘good trajectory’, meaning it covers a distance/angle Kanji currently does not have SBバスタ派生耐えてがBバスタぐらいのショボイ移動距離だったような。いよいよ死に技？タイミング？ 5C > 2D chain is rollable, but 5C > Primal Force(tackle) will hit the rollers Currently, 214C/Ds will turn into Primal Forces (due to charge input? the person who mentions this thinks it might be exclusively his arcade station) 236236AB minimum damage is 1k j.236a is +2, j.236b is -? apparently they both frametrap jumpers nicely off of j.b there are cancel frames on the last frames of 236A to air chair or j.214SB. because of it, the player didn’t manage to supercancel into 236236AB. lol what the hell 2C > Special cancel doesn’t work(?) because of the slower j.c startup stylish combos involving it are gone j.B > dive doesn’t work, 214214C > Dive doesn’t work. Seems like Kanji wills till have a very hard time vs Hanamura, Yukiko, Yukari Universal System Changes: Guardroll added. (Kanji's is short as fuck, though.) Air moves can now be used after backdash. New autocombo. Blocked DP > Super still in. Characters now have Skill Boost supers; 75 meter for more damage. (Some supers exempt) Special cancel possible after D followup for AoA. Gold burst nerfed, much longer overall frames. Attacks can be canceled into short hop. Attacks can be done much sooner after a short hop. Can burst during the shadow overdrive animation (so you can burst it on reaction) Shadow character intro animations are different Fatals might do 20% on first hit rather than 10% S hold super is 236236A S hold supers do not consume meter New Move: Primal Force Kanji strikes a pose while Take-Mikazuchi does a flying shoulder check across the screen. Penetrates projectiles. Cannot be OMC. Can chain Primal Force > AoA for whatever reason. Primal force sets Take behind the opponent, allowing for Yukiko-esque combos Can combo Primal Force > 5D Can combo off of Primal Force (Tackle) with 5C/2C Primal Force has a better hitbox (in terms of not getting persona broken) than Yosuke 5D Buffs:Kanji can now charge his 5B to make it bigger, causes spinning CH on normal hit when charged 236A/B performable in air. EX chair super wallbounds on last hit. (Functions like Naoto wallbound?) Command Throws are available in Persona Break. 214214CD doesn't have 0F startup, but increased range over 214214C/D. 5C causes Paralysis on hit 5C and 2B are both hop cancelable. 5C is dash cancelable. 5B > AoA now works. j.b j.b j.236A/B works, but might be FC only. 5C can be canceled into 214c(!?), which is why 5B 5C is gone apparently. backdash > yolodive works. Normal grab now leaves opponent close to kanji, dial A possible most likely SB Chair super - 2B comboed after for sure Still possible to get an easy 5K off of 5C FCs despite combo changes 236C has new movement/tracking to improve it 2C has dash cancel Hitbox underneath j.C may have been added Nerfs: Persona Cards lowered to 3. j.B to 214B no longer works. Air backdash distance reduced by half. Normal grab range shortened. Recovery after j.C is increased. j.B Untechable time reduced. Cannot do personaless 214C when 5/j/2D is active. 5B>2B and 5B>5C removed. 236A/B followup changed (no longer auto tracks at full screen) Can’t do air actions after whiffing j.c SB followup chair now does 450 guaranteed damage rather than 600 Chair after 236236A no longer floats the opponent on hit Followup 236B is garbage j.C now has FC recovery in the air, but not on the ground j.D does not have projectile invuln Unknown/Unconfirmed: [*]New move/motion was seen after landing a grab [*]Recovery of charge 5B does not change [*]236B followup chair might have VERY fast recovery, allow for 5AA pickup [*]YMST says Kanji’s neutral is stronger [*]214C/D/CD damage increased？　SB grab was 3300 [*]5AA and 5AAA are now different. 5AA now hits like A.B.A.'s Moroha HS, 5AAA throws the opponent into the air. Theoretically we can combo after that with air moves. 5AA has the same cancel options as it does now. [*]236A/B followup changed, not quite sure how at the moment. SB version is either unchanged or just hasn't been changed yet. [*]Faster sweep? [*]D grab changed (able to move before throw comes out?) Shadow Kanji Info: [*]when shadow kanji wins, he puts on the fundoshi and poses [*]Shadow activate looks like it can be used as an OMC。5AA sweep > activate > 2C possible. [*]by the way, ~Sweep >Activate > 5C > 236AB > 236236a > 214214C only does 5k [*]Near, corner, AoAD> 2A > 2B > CorD tackle comboed, but it seemed like 5A would not combo afterwards [*]２Ｂ＞５Ｃ＞236B＞２Ａ＞５Ｂ＞Sweep ＞omc iad j.B＞５Ｃ＞２Ｂ＞236C = 4700 214C＞Shadow mode＞DP＞236236A＞236236A＞214214C seems possible Combo Change Nonsense [*][5B] > AoA comboed [*]236D/CD -> Command grab does not work [*]When doing 236C 5AA 236C combos, going for 236C 5AAAAAA will be a viable option now, as it ends in hard knockdown and the damge difference is not great + burst + meter gain [*]雄たけび時の5B>5C>2C>小ジャンJB>2B>JBが小ジャン以降全部クリーンヒットで空中波動で〆て3300すね (if he’s referring to charged 5B as ‘war cry’ then 5B > 5C > 2C > hop j.b > 2B > hop cancel j.b works as a combo for 3300. not sure on ender. [*]SB Chair super - 2B comboed after for sure,　あと椅子投げで１０００くらい減ったよ [*]For now, comboing into j.236B > 236236A seems stable [*]According to moke(?), it’s possible to do Primal Force > 5C > knockdown, so you can get paralyze okizeme on hit. depends on spacing

No reason why they would, it's what makes the game accessible for non fighting game players.

If that happens can we give Kanji F.D.B. and call it a day on his buffs?

Considering it's already in loketests I'd say end of the year/early next year. As for when it gets here who the hell knows.

So do we know if it's a legit sequel or just a title update? Cause I'm thinking the latter is the more likely one.

I'd imagine they'll buff other aspects of her since SMP loop is, like you said, likely eliminated. Maybe traps that'll do more damage or something.

Looks like the baseball graphic is in every screenshot of Junpei gameplay, so it definitely looks like it'll be his gameplay gimmick. Ideas on what it'll do?

I did just notice in the loketest screenshots one of Junpei's supers has a baseball diamond and Balls/Strikes/Outs counter at the bottom. Might just be aesthetics but it could play into his actual gameplay. The screenshot in particular I'm referring to: http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/038/325/520d7c077c41f.html

I'll assume you mean Yukiko here. Junpei I can't really judge at the moment. Who the hell knows, maybe he'll have Kagura's playstyle from CP.

#buffKanji

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