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Zeth, i also have something to tell you, you can combo off of 6C starter easily if you hit an airborne opponent with it or you if you hit somebody with it on CH by simbly doing a pick-up combo on them, and i'm pretty sure there are more combos with 6C starter than just 0 combos(like the combo thread indicates) Also i'm not sure if it's listed in the combo thread( the combo thread is a huge wall of text and i have a short attention span) but most azrael players who try to follow up TCL combos in the corner usually do 5B,2C,5B, aerial. some azrael players also tend to do: stuff,6D,TCL,3D as a midscreen combo or try doing 6A,IAD,j.C,land,TCL,5B,2C,5B,aerial. i've also noticed that azrael is a great corner carrying character, for example he has this combo: forward throw,6A,IAD,j.C,TCL,(it's almost guranteed that you're in the corner by now unless you were in the corner)5B,2C, Aerial. I also have a ton of combos currently in my head and i wonder if i should post in the combo thread( do i have your permission zeth?) I've also noticed that if you're in the corner, you can easily do 5B,2C,5B,aerial without any preparations. And maybe you can do this as well?: stuff,6D,6A,IAD,j.C,land,TCL,if you're close to the corner you can also do 5B,2C,5B,aerial.

I see, thanks, i hope somebody makes a thread about it when the game releases.

I re-read the character overview and apparently, it has been said that Growler is the move with start-up invincibility(because of the anti-projectile part of it), but i'm not too sure about it because whenever i see an azrael player use it as a dp, they most of the time trade hits, this probably means that the invincibility is short-lived, and i think that's unfair since ragna's inferno divider has more invincibility than Growler when both of them have roughly the same amount of recovery. I have also started reading this thread from scratch so that i don't make any mistakes again, and i've been wondering, there was this japanese guy called Yonah on dustloop, where is he now? On the topic of phalanx's invincibility, i'm not too sure about this since i don't see many azraels who use it (they don't absorb projectiles with Growler for some reason ) but i think that during the entire projectile throwing part of the move, he has invincibility, and did anyone see phalanx trading hits with tager's sparkbolt? i want to know what happens. Also guys, i have seen the coolest rapid combo in history done by shiroumadoushi vs kaqn(ragna) i think if you go watch that match, you'll understand, but in summary it was: (air only CH)j.B,land,5B,j.B,j.C,jump cancel,DIVEKICK,Rapid when close to the ground,j.C,5B,j.B,j.C,Jump cancel,DIVEKICK,rapid when close to the ground,j.C,5B,aerial. Finally, after seeing the clip koopa-klaws gave us, it doesn't really seem as though phalanx actually destroyed jin's 5C, because jin didn't even touch azrael's hitbox, he was a bit too far away and phalanx gives you the illusion that the move should have hit him because of the visual cues it gives you, it's hard to imagine that azrael has THAT much priority anyways.

Hey guys, do you know where i can get character quotes, at least azrael quotes? ( it's what i've been looking for ) .

................ I'm sorry zeth, i read the character overview a long time ago, so i didn't remember . I also want to know where you guys got those azrael avatars (yukiblue, legendary rath, and zeth) and how did you get them. i want one for myself. By the way, where should i go to find azrael's quotes ? i'm intrested. I have also noticed that there is a very linear way of comboing with azrael when you start a combo with 5d or 2d that almost all azrael players use for some reason, is there some sort of reason for this? I'm also a bit scared to post because the way zeth is talking makes me think that he'll do something if i posted ANYTHING stupid. I also want to know if azrael's 5BB is an overhead, and if you can follow up afterwards after you hit an airborne opponent with it, also, have you guys seen anybody use SCP correctly and actually do something with it?if so then link me the video please.

Thank you all for replying, i really appreciate it. but from zeth's post, it seems that azrael in general doesn't have many good matchups . I also agree that Amane is probably an easy matchup because his best tool ( the drills ) can be easily nullified with growler . I also have a hard time describing what type of character Azrael is , he is an offensive character with decent defense( because of growler and his backdash) but he doesn't seem to be a rushdown character since he doesn't have great mixups ( only two overheads that incredibly slow and - on block, a very slow ambigous low that is - on block and he doesn't seem to have good high-low mixups ) so what would you classify his type of character ? Finally, i would like to ask, how hard are azrael's links ? i know none of you have played the game or anything but simply from japanese players or any type of source, i'm asking this because i'm horrible with street fighter links, and since i main slayer in gg i know how hard it is to do these links, and i need to know this .

Thank you very much, all of you who replied to my post . So i guess i should thouroughly check the combo thread then if it can teach me a thing or two . Also, zeth, i did check the character overview a bunch of times, but i didn't completely underrstand the moves so i just asked . By the way guys, i know it is a bit too early to start saying this, but from what you have seen, what do you think Azrael's hardest/easiest matchups are, and i specifically want to know his match up with Bang ( i'm sorry for asking too much questions) I've just noticed as well that you can apply two weakpoints in one combo without meter without using throw as well by watching that combo video jourdal posted a while ago( however you still needed a weakpoint already applied fo that to happen ) I am starting to think that Azrael has the highest combo potential in the game ( i already have seen, read, and thought up more than a 100 combos by now )

Hey guys, i'm kinda new here and i have been wondering about a few things, so if you would be kind enough to reply, please do. I still don't completely understand the concept of valiant charger/hornet chaser combos, so i would like to know how exactly do they work ( is it really a freestyle combo system, and if it is true, then how do you do it ?) Also, i've been wondering, is it possible to apply two weakpoints in one combo without using meter ?, if so, then how?