The DMK

Hey Destin. I remember in some thread quite some time ago that you said if Dizzy was no longer in the game you'd quit GG. I'm guessing that is no longer true? Or you never said that and I am wrong? I think the crests/sigils/whatever are great for Ky. I need to look at vids again, but the beams seem pretty big and look like they last for a while. I don't know, but they look like the kind of attack that would have decent chip damage (complete conjecture here). There are still some simple things I would like to see improved in Ky. If Greed Sever had a faster start-up, better recovery or less proration that would be great. All three wouldn't be bad. IMO GS is too telegraphed, easy to punish and doesn't get enough of a good reward. You get a combo off of it, which is great, but it is hard to land and the damage is clearly lower than a standard combo. Last I mentioned this (in reference to ACR?) ehuangsan suggested that reducing Ky's proration on 2K and 2P would be enough to make him notably better (instead of improving GS), and he is probably right. Either way, I wouldn't mind Greed Saber being a better overhead. As it stands, it is only something you can throw out every now and then. I don't want to say it is a gimmick, but it is definitely risky. A better Greed Sever could be an overhead with some real mix-up potential. Ky's design makes him by default a halfway decent character (unfortunately I didn't play too much / when his fireballs were ridiculous), but with a little bit of adjustment he could be great or at the very least good. He feels like a good character (mid-tier) who is neutered into being mediocre (mid-low/lower). Out of 5 iterations of XX he is low to mid-low tier in 4 of them (maybe mid?). I mean, I can't complain that he was top for a game, but y'know, That was two games ago. I'm sure many others feel the same about their characters, but I feel like making Ky a consistently decent character would be pretty simple. He has good pokes, anti-airs, and versatile and useful specials. The ingredients are there. As for the whole characters issue, I can't really say whether any will be added in before a console release, but I'm sure it wouldn't be long after. Forgetting the whole business side of it, this is actually Daisuke working on it. It is his brainchild, and I am sure he has big plans, what with the story being all post GG2 and all.

This. That is a good point HM. I'd rather be able to keep the meter for pressure or something else rather than get more damage off the throw. I thought of GS FRC as an option at one point but it completely escaped my mind. I think that would be a fair solution. I still wouldn't mind it being a bit faster or with a little less recovery. Maybe just a little bit faster with the FRC rectifying the recovery. Even if its properties still remained in the 'risky overhead' category (slow and punishable), the slow magic rainbow blade just seems a bit too telegraphed (although I'm surprised at how much it works in a lot of match videos). I definitely agree on the 6H shtkn. I miss the old one. Even if it was just a little faster I would be content. I don't know how easy it can be reacted to, but it is like GS where in pressure I try to throw it out judiciously, other then when I gatling from 6P where I'm a bit more liberal. I considered a gatling from c.s, but it already gatlings into c.s, and a c.s 6H c.s 6H thing might be a bit silly. Or not. Could give it more gatlings and reduce it's effects on the guard bar. I dunno, just throwing out ideas.

Indeed, Ky's pressure game is pretty solid as far as I'm concerned. He also has decent pokes and anti-airs and a good long-distance game. I actually see him as a prototypical example of a lower-tier character who can still do well but has to work more simply because of his damage output, not because of a serious lack of tools and good options. His pressure isn't without holes, but I don't find it difficult to keep momentum going and stay close with meter. I'm not sure how these ideas would actually pan out but here are some: -Less prorate on throws and maybe GS, just to give a bit higher average damage. More with the throws than GS. -I was thinking if he had a normal that was an overhead. Somewhere between Millia's 6K and HOS' 2H. Something neutral, if maybe mildly disadvantageous. Maybe instead make GS a little faster and safer? When I throw out a GS it isn't part of my 'regular mix-up', it comes out when I truly think I can catch somebody with it. It would be nice if it were fast enough that it wouldn't be such a huge BLOCK HIGH as soon as you see it, and if it were safe enough that it couldn't be easily punished on most blocks. If GS were more effective Ky's mix-up would be that much better with a legitimate overhead option, and he would get more damage opportunities. Actually I could do without a prorate reduction, just make it a better tool. Also, if memory serves me correctly in AC Ky doesn't have shin akuma. I wouldn't mind getting that back.

Was going through this thread the other day and decided to compile the posts by fs that had the combo variations for specific characters. Might've missed some. Not sure if this post would be considered obnoxiously long. If a mod or fs wants to edit it into his first post here it is:

Trying to set this up now and find my PC Pad. When it is all good I'm down to play some matches with somebody.

These are some very insightful posts sir. I'm trying to get back into AC now and it is nice to see some fresh information abounds. Once I can get some vids of myself I will definitely utilize your system of analysis. Some Ky vs Slayer information would be appreciated. It is my most frequent match-up by far, but it would be interesting to hear some advice from someone far more competent than myself. I am just always getting stuffed with a lot of his higher priority moves. Honestly any and all tricks and tactics are welcome.

EdgeKun mentioned how in BF's case they were able to just directly copy the ISO and go about it that way. Now I don't really know much about PS3, but nowadays isn't it pretty PS2 backwards compatible? I just did some research and it sounds like Accent Core works on the 80 gig model (although some people talk of some hick-ups on start-up but after which it seems to run fine). So perhaps they could use the ISO? Even if it worked this does not solve the issue for the 360 or the PC (auto runs as a PS2 emulator? I don't know these things.), or the fact that they would have to add net play. Just a thought. As previously mentioned we'll likely just have to wait for the Naomi emulation which I have no contentions about. What happened to my original flashing Ky forrest av ? That thing was an antique.

I believe I once read an interview with him about his artwork and don't quote me on this but I think he does indeed use Copics.

It depends on how many posts you have set for page. It's 57 on mine too.

I recall someone a while ago (far earlier in this thread) stating they heard in the background perhaps of some showing of the game or a trailer, a new version of Chipp's theme and there then being suspicions of returning characters. Anyone know whatever might've happened with the new version of Suck-a-Sage?

Hunters and Prey! Alright I'm pretty pumped now. LETS DO THIS! Thanks TB!

I don't think there actually is a Story Mode Fan Boy. I think it's Arcade Mode you're referring to hence the lack of scenes. It is indeed "teh suxorz".

Question: When say you land a basic ground string, or well, anything that can combo into level 3 RI or BRP, which would be preferable? The combo opportunities off both are pretty similar, and from what I recall one seems to do slightly more damage. Are there perhaps some PHAT COMBOZ I don't know about or something off one that aren't off the other for whatever reason? Any help will be appreciated :D.

All us US, Europe and Canada peeps are on Delay 4 right? Does anyone in America use Delay 2?

It's in the folder for GG. It's called config and I think the icon is Ky. There are 3 tabs when you open it up I think on the top. The one on the left (the one you start on) is display options and crap, the one in the middle is keyboard controls, and after that is gamepad/joystick controls. Figure out what is what, by testing out the keyboard controls in the game and comparing that with the things on the config menu. I know the first four are up down left and right, and the next ones are the PS2 face buttons, but I unno what order. R1 is dust and all obviously.

GGs to all. Sorry for it dropping out like that zazz and anyone I played. Apparently whenever iTunes switches songs it kicks me out after a small freeze-up. Spicy J was you Spirit Juice I take it? GGs ;o. GTX whoever you are on the forums, sick Eddie. My speakers power cable got loosened right at the beginning though so I wasn't in the groove without the music, and with me trying to fix it in between haha ;(. You woulda won regardless. Who is the dark blue and black Ky with the blonde hair who keeps changing his name? GGs!

GGs Sytha, Kumiho and everyone else I played. Sorry for I guess uh being a scrub or something by implying you dropped. I didn't even know desyncs existed if thats what happened (been playing online 2 days, and never experienced it before). For the record, I wouldn't have said ggs in my last post if I didn't think you left without good reason. Fierce Eddie. Have to stop random stun edges. And it is still weird as hell someone else has the same handle as me.

Oh, and I forgot: TheDMK|TheDMK|Port Jefferson Station, NY|Delay 4

Yah that was good stuff :o. I didn't know you were NY either hah. GGs to you and everyone else I played. Your Johnny is pretty good, you should try throwing in some overheads into your mix-up (does Johnny have any other then dust?), and I have a feeling if you weren't playing me you could get punished for the random air DTs ;o. GGs to the other Kumiho, but he left after I won a round ;(.

To whomever Lan is, good Jam. Sorry I dropped on you right went it was at it's peak. I had to go on a college tour and my parents were nagging me. Could've gone either way man! First time I ever faced a good Jam!

Kayin we gotta get some matches in ;O. I'm in Port Jefferson Station and you're in Central Islip (well I don't know where you are NOW) so our connection will probably be perfect.

Ohh, I played you! You were the May! I was the Ky with the custom color. Crazy lag, but ggs none the less. To all I played today ggs. If you played me and I was playing Slayer though, that was CJay not me. THAT MEANS YOU SPIRIT JUICE! I'M CALLING YOU OUT EVO VEGAS $10000 MONEY MATCH HYPE HYPE HYPE!!! Oh, and SJ your RK is very pretty. Edit: Same time post lololol.

There is a 1.08? lolz. Thank ya sir.

Is everybody still using Delay 4? I'm using version 1.07, but I get Ver. Error with everyone else. Are they out of date?

So apparently there is a guy called Kumiho going around? That used to be XBL gamertag, and it's my SRK name, but it ain't me. I heard he's a dropper too : (.