Greater Force

If anyone can give solid insight on something I'd be grateful... I am encountering this problem more and more, especially today. What is Marie's answer to skilled turtling? Her overhead is god awlful and it seems AoA is the only answer, but if the opposition is good enough to react..., even that is a no go. I mean, I can corner someone all day, but nothing seems to be mixupy enough to open a competent player up. This is a serious problem I'm sorta clueless how to fix.

Really wish I could offer good advice to people who are really struggling to improve. Unfortunately I barely know what I'm doing, lol. I only win cause Marie is a bit of a noob killer with those giant normals of hers. Stick with Teddie though, he's supposed to be quite a good character and has the randomness of items to help cover your weaknesses. Just ask lots of questions on the Teddie boards, maybe a Ted master will help you (you probably already did this...).

Well, like I said... Yu and Mitsuru are far superior at the balanced all around playstyle then Marie. As for Yukari, it's all about getting in and staying there, that's the case with anyone who has to hunt her down through all her arrows. Have you tried blocking them with shadow eyes? It works against lower rank Yukari players, you can destroy her persona set up with 2D as well. My advice might not be that useful against really good players BTW.

I like to think of her as a 'Jack of All Trades' character (what Yu should have been, instead of, 'Master of All Trades' lol). I play according to who my opposition is. Zone those who can't zone you. Stay on the keep aways. Experience a deadly hell in battles with Yu, Mitsuru and other variety types. That's just my low skill level opinion anyway.

1: People who turn every match into a combo exhibition video. I wish combos were toned done some. It's just annoying to eat a 80% health combo just because they hit you once (P4U shadows are really aggravating for this... Chie). Thing is, every good player worth their street cred will be able to do this... lol. 2: Trolling high reaction players. I fight people who would literally grab and air grab with perfection for entire fights, I teched a few... but damn that was a annoying "Get out of my face scrub." bitchslap I've seen. Almost rage quit those matches, and they used heart emoticons after the match too. Urggh... if you're so good, fight for real and say you want to fight someone else afterwards... geez.

GG's. I actually won more than I thought I would against you hardened (newbie) DL players! Of course that's with my semi crap Marie. My subs uber sucked as usual. It was fun, don't know how much longer the room was staying up, but it's past 2AM for me, lol. Don't think I'll be going at my best too much longer. I'll definitely be coming to most of these though!

As a dreadful player (don't be scared by my 1000+ matches, I suck), I thought I'd introduce myself here. I lurk around, but mostly hangout on GFAQS (JRPG and Fighting Game boards). If anyone wants to fight me I'm on quite abit, just not always playing fighters lol. Not sure how to add those little icons into my sig, but I use Marie mostly. So yeah... lol.

Hi. I lurked here for awhile, but just recently decided to join. I wasn't sure where to ask this, so sorry if I posted in the wrong place. I have used Marie for quite a few fights and while I'm not a combo expert or anything, I find her either really strong or pitifully weak in each fight I have. Like, if the opponent can understand her options well enough, she has little to use against them. On the other hand, she is downright scary against a nervous opponent. I know how scrubby this sounds, but she seems to require a strong sense of 'control' to do well. My main question right now is something I can't get info on anywhere. Where does Marie stand tier wise? A official grade isn't necessary, just a idea of which characters are superior to her and which are less effective generally. I know for a fact she can't match Yu and Aigis, but she seems much better than Kanji and Labrys. Also, is she technically the worst of the DLC characters? I think Marge is stronger but Adachi I'm not sure on. Any info on this?