firedraco

I was showing my friend Aki's 5A > 236A OS vs Liz's 5C options and realized that you can do the same sort of OS with Liz. If you start holding 6 when you block 5C, you can mash 6A then 4A and either you'll break Thanatos if he does 5D, or you'll hit 2C then cancel into Debilitate (which will counter 2C and hit the other Liz, even at full screen). This is still punishable at close range though, and also maybe with A Zio in Awakening. I believe you will also get hit by 5C > A Bufu, but in normal mode that does nothing for Liz anyway so shrug.

The damage is definitely less. I watched a 2.0 combo vid with poison then did poison with a similar damage combo in 1.1 and it was about one whole persona card less which I think was about 1k (maybe 800, idr).

I think this was already mentioned (?) but 2D got nerfed, the damge per tick remains the same but the number of ticks has been reduced...In my tests it seems like we lost about 1k ish damage per poison application.

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