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Given that 1f jump video, I retract my argument against it. To the contrary, it seems like quite a good glitch to be in the game, given it has a reasonable risk (losing meter) reward (getting vertical somewhat faster)

Does anyone know the exact frames on how 1f jumping works? If it is not cutting the pre jump frames to 1 I agree it's not that big a deal. If it is then it's lazy and shouldn't be in the game.

I would wager the dust animates later in the prejump frames. By canceling out those frames, you cancel out the animation. I can't fathom a fighting game design team intentionally adding this mechanic, and it certainly seems out of line with what ARCSYS attempts to do in general.

Eh, seems like an unintentional mechanic, and it defeats an already low vulnerability window on jumping out with an optimal defense once you get airborne. Seems like the game would be better without it.

Sounds like you should 1f jump more. Did they take that out of the game btw? I hope so.

It makes the sound of a level 6, and the announcer mentioned that he thought it might be that as well.

Thanks for the input Mike. I'll give Dizzy a shot for sure and see if she feels like dizzy instead of some Mugen mashup. I do like that they are bringing in old #R shit, makes me nostalgic.

Didn't dizzy have a force break fish? What is it? I desperately want her old H laser back in some capacity, but I guess I will have to see what's up with the new fish.

I hope it's to help with 2k as a long range poke. IIRC that has issues linking into 2d right? Those changes sound great!

2S, far S, jump S, jump P are all really solid moves for anti air.

Sorry forgot to address the responses, I do t really think dizzy has that bad of a neutral game at all. 5k and 2k are amazing tools, she has very solid anti air, a great air throw, good mobility. When I did get a neutral fish SAFELY in slash, I certainly did feel a huge advantage on my opponent, I had a free decent mixup for it! I can understand someone wanting more in the AC environment, but isn't that what force breaks were for? Dizzy has some of the best high low, and left right, and low throw mixups in the game. If they didn't give Eddie 3 unblockables (and a double low drill to prevent blocking that one), I would put her at the best mixups. Very few characters could kill in one knockdown in previous games. My level of competition was Japan, I was knocking people out with 1 knockdown as slash dizzy. They were using every conceivable trick to get out. I was just really curious if people felt she needed it, that's all. I don't like almost all the AC changes, and would gladly trade it away for my slash/reload sweep.

If eddies gets his old shadow summons, they should give me back my old fish somehow.

I read all that, I was just hopeful. This all makes me sad. Edit: I have to ask, to any of you fellow dizzy players think that dizzy really needed 2 bites? Like, did you ever hit a point where you thought you didn't get enough oki from a knockdown? I used to win entire matches against everyone in one knockdown with 1 bite. Do you all just kill everyone anytime you land a sweep?

I'm sorry for not reading through everything, but I just want to know 2 or 3 things. I really want to play dizzy this time but these things were horrible. Is 2D still JC? Does her fish still have that double BS for no reason? Does she still have air S. As long as the second one is gone, I would be happy honestly. That was the stupidest shit ever. Made Dizzy scrub mode.

I understand why they are different and potentially interesting, but they look HORRIBLE. They need to animate some more frames of a guy getting stuck to the wall than one often silly looking hit frame. It looks way better in games with more frames of animation. That and wall slide made ac look hella doujinshi fighter to me.

Wtf is up with adding wall sticks to everything? Wall sticks look horrible, might as well just get rid of the sticks and make them bounces.

Of course you would wait until after I was gone to bring it back. C'est la vie. I am in new York, playing music and fucking crazy bitches.

Poop! Every now and then I play league of extraordinary legends. I play a decent akali, but not great. My name is SlickMcFavorite, feel free to add me.

Because we enjoyed playing guilty gear.

Thanks for the videos, I will check them out after a bit of job searching. If I wanted a game where dizzy was good and still dizzy I would play reload. Honestly at this point there is no advantage to arguing about two dead games with people I will never play (no offense). At this point I think people should just play what they want to play until GGX3 comes out and maybe doesn't suck.

Then you can make them drop AC, for Slash. It is weird that I have such disdain for the version of guilty gear that features my initials as the abbreviation.

Pat you should play testament when you play AC. I just realized that.

I can fight faust in any version of guilty gear.

Double elim is only consistent to the top 2 if you assume that if A > B, B > C, then A > C. But this is not always the case. Sadly round robin is far and away the best way to decide. A 50 man round robin tournament, would be awesome lol.