Good stuff, I didn't even think of instant blocking the 2nd hit of the Ice car. From the midscreen 236.A lobella seemed to stop or trade with quite a few of the Ice Cars even on react if i recall. This is a pretty annoying match-up. The times that I have won its been lots of 236.A and 236.B lobella if they try to airdash in from too far out and use lightning rods from 236.A-B lobellas if you hit with a 236.B. It's not a exactly a good way to punish, but we don't seem to have that good of damage options when faced with a sled spamming jin other than to block.