kriaser

OK, well, what I realized is if they tech AWAY, you can catch them with 6C out of their roll because of the awesome range, then do Shippu. :D If they tech BEHIND you, you can catch them with 2B then Renka then Rape™. You have to decide before they roll what to do though, if you wait until they actually roll it's too late. Not sure how practical it is but I can test it if I remember. :P If you get them in the corner with 2B > Renka, you can 2C them up so they air tech then air throw them as they recover.