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5A hits him out of his jump startup. :< Same with jumping. 5A beats everything but counter. I guess I might as well break down how to deal with Haku and GF: 5A beats everything but counter and blocking. 6A will beat Hotaru if you time it right and jump outs. So will Atomic Collider. I think 2B will even make Hotaru whiff too. Backdash beats Hotaru. 360 beats both blocking and counters but loses to jump. Oh and it beats pokes too.

Aw snap. I can do 2C > 2C > AC > AC whiff > MTW > TB for 6k. Even I can do this. Awesome. :P Also against GF it pretty much boils down to 5A, 360 or AC against Hakumen. You have to either block / counter or jump. 6A can be good for baiting Hotaru though.

lol Gadget Finger magnetism pushes Tager and his victim towards the corner. I'm mid screen and doing it and they both just slide left across the screen.

You're supposed to rely on gatlings with most characters.

I used to know them by heart from playing Axis practically every day, but then he stopped and pretty much every Tager on XBL died. My brother mains Tager though but he hasn't played in forever either. Although he doesn't even own Extend and does CS1 combos and still manages to win a lot against me. He just knows me too well. why.jpg How does it give you a punish on Arakune? Since it would just put him back in GF.

Air CH Tsubaki is if THEY're in the air though so that would not work. Right. Otherwise it's air Tsubaki by definition.

> max range 5C into GH why do i always fall for that mid/high mixup

That is Arakune and Hazama and Mu. Hakumen is like a yoyo except for EX ~> CP.

Someone who can do double Gadget consistently needs to do it. I'll try anyway when I get home though.

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Damn. I need to test that out. I've never been Gadget Finger'd while trying to block before. Always caught me out of a jump.

You mean even if they try to block? If they just stand there and do nothing it's not really a problem. As in, literally doing nothing. Raw 22D, I know 2D would come out, I mean that you won't get Gadget Finger unless they are in a state where it is possible to get hit by Gadget Finger. So you don't need to worry about Gadget Finger coming out unless it will snag them. Only question is if 5D or 2D comes out instead when you are in the middle of the first Gadget Finger.

I think the second GF would only come out if they try to jump or backdash, etc. Otherwise I don't think anything would happen just like if you were just standing around and did 22D (no GF, just a D move). But I don't think it would give you a D move either if you did it during the first GF since it would be in the middle of Gadget Finger. Gotta try it and see. Basically, if they jump or backdash, they get Gadget Finger'd again, if they don't then 5A comes out. And you could just keep doing it forever if it works.

I wonder if something like 22D~5A would work as an option select on Gadget Finger mixup. Like, doing GF again to catch backdashes and jumpouts, but it won't work if they don't jump, right. So then the 5A would come out and hit them instead. That could be useful against Arakune and Lambda and such, since you have to deal with their backdashes.

I'm pretty sure that, just like there's jump startup, there's landing frames where you are helpless after you land, which is why Tager can 360 you.

Why would doing a different move negate landing recovery. All moves have recovery. i am confus Although I think if you are in the startup of a move, like Haku j.2C super close to the ground, you can avoid some recovery... or can you. Argh, maybe that's the same thing.

Hey, I'd rather have them low tier and steadily buffed rather than breaking the game because of something nobody saw coming.

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That too.

j.D is not anti low. You can get hit out of the jump startup. At least if it's a meaty.

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lag + boredom I just joined to fight SCAM but it was taking too long. :P

I can't wait until I am the strongest with Haku in CP. Pure skill.

You can't join in again?

Oh wait Moy is playing Plat and not Jin. Well I don't know now.