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Just wanted to say good luck to everyone who's participating in SU4 today. Sorry I can't be there but I hope you guys have fun~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKnlmovCv-4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g75qm2KLTxA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HABG_T0e_Uw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZN2VsAt0g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNs_6eMn-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18PExzntMCQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fLKBnr-9zs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTx4VdmOb4w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU31kAhOeKQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Px3esip28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU-Lngce4eU

You can, even in the corner. I watched it happen twice against a Relius. The Tsubaki used A DP on wake-up and the Relius dashed, so that he avoided it. Honestly, it doesn't surprise me now that I've noticed her A DP is further away from her compared to her B and C versions. You could clearly see that there was no way that A DP was going to hit him sadly I think it may also be a matter of hitbox but it's still pretty sad. EDIT: Actually, he dashed and jumped. My bad. Not any better but he wasn't just running at her. And I'm glad you guys liked my poorly made diagrams haha.

Thanks for getting those videos Kiba~ 12/8 pet (Tager) vs Kuresu (Tsubaki) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEzaaIBXR-8 Judo (Bang) vs Kuresu (Tsubaki) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmFFU3hd38 I was hoping to have Supinoza's matches up by now as well but nope. Oh well. They'll be up later today. I like what Kuresu did at the end of round 1 against pet. EDIT: 12/3 Supinoza (Tsubaki) vs Yuu (Noel) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g75qm2KLTxA#t=3m16 U-san (Bang) vs Supinoza (Tsubaki) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU-Lngce4eU

Happy, happy Birfdaaaay~

Since everyone is wondering about the hitbox for her DP... I decided to look to see if they did do a hitbox for it since I forgot they may have split it for some reason (some of her sword movements were with her already, like 22D it's two separate images but they were put together, so I thought maybe they just didn't have it) and found it. I doubt they'll change the frame data picture now, so sorry about missing it the first time through since I was the one who worked on it, but here you guys go. I had to put them together and rotate the sword myself so it might not be entirely accurate. Things I noticed while continuously doing her DPs to get as accurate a picture as I could: The D version actually combines all three of her other versions into it (sword-wise). C sword comes out first, then B, then A and follow one after another and the C hit will disappear first, then B, then A. It's not exactly simultaneous. This is why Ragna could grab Tsubaki out of it in the video Kiba linked. He was close enough that the C version didn't hit and was fast enough to CH grab her before the B sword hit. It's the aforementioned dead zone. The A, B, C version swords actually very slightly come out of different areas on the ground. A version sword seems to come out more forward than B, B seems to come out a little closer to Tsu, and C is in the middle of them. It's a really small margin though of how far away they're spaced, so I only tried to show it in the D version of the move. A, B, C Ver (basically): D ver. (VERY roughly done. I'm pretty sure the hitbox for each one begins once it's coming off the ground but it's hard to replicate that with what I have, so I tried to at least show the general idea of where it'll end, the spacing between them, and the direction *they'll all end up following where the C sword goes direction-wise* ;_______; ) : 1 = Comes out/disappears first 2 = Comes out/disappears second 3 = Comes out/disappears third Sorry again since it's not exactly accurate.

Ahahahahahaha~ The OST is certainly interesting. And yea, I heard they were re-making FF10 for some reason. I don't really think it needs to be remade but eh, whatever floats their boat.

So there are three types of burst? Interesting... Sadlife that Mitsuru doesn't have a gameplay video up yet.

12/10 Nakamurabashi Fun Factory http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16424715 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16424773 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16424931 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16424987 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16425094 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYB-p4G07FU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMP7CT26oIU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkoc2qftN54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6gicl8yMqk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAB4VZdBMdM 11/23 Shinjuku Sportsland http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16425052 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16425365 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16427516 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMdRX5Y22fA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8fNwUCc2dw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv1PhCT7zKc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtCJLZz94k 12/3 Nishi Nippori http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16427226 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16427529 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16427701 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16427865 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16428196 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16428472

The only reason we're all talking about her like this is because we can't play her yet though again about 90% of you are going to be playing her soon. No one can really figure out what to do with her with her considering no one has her yet so it's hard to talk about anything besides our impressions and opinions that we've formed from videos, but even then people seem somewhat reluctant to talk about that. But BB has indeed been getting better slowly but surely considering this is only their fourth iteration. Did my post seem negative? It was mostly to explain why people were focusing on her mechanics, as well as my own thoughts on it cuz why not, and not to put down Extend Tsubaki. I don't really care after CS1 lol. I'd stick with Tsubaki regardless though I would think that would be obvious~

11/20 Shinjuku Sportsland http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16392561 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16405011 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16415440 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTWaI6kZwao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfQgzvIthh4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ACQ9D5SwnQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaYlVEsy8KI 12/2 Chiba Felicidad http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16414339 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16414438 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16414522 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16414568 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16414677 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8en6eX66_I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZpjFud0v8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY97KZT_5Ac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9gNZ_383MM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juFFYyZmLtQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWWBbFacxU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syjTtVkFlS0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5j7ibMUm0c

Just noting to myself up to this point that everything has been updated on the first page. Sorry no Tsu videos... yet. EDIT: Here's one. Nine ( Makoto ) vs Kuno ( Tsubaki ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8en6eX66_I

Honestly, can see why people are putting a lot of emphasis on her mechanics. I think I can say that everyone agrees that she’s a character who gains charges and from there chooses how to use those to beat the opponent. However, from here, the opinion of whether or not her risk/reward for her charging and what she gains from it diverges. CS2 Tsubaki is a huge step in the right direction (SBO baby) and for Extend it feels like they’re testing the waters for certain things though a lot of the changes are weird for her or did not need to be changed the way it did and for some other characters as well. Admittedly, I think that the risk/reward is less than stellar than one would expect when you have charges though our unblockable 22D can lead to fun life. BUT this is hinges on how fast she gains charges, for me at least. If she gains charges fast, the D version for her moves as they are now are fine, again for me. But if it’s slow I would expect that her D moves did slightly more. I feel that ArcSys has to decide is what they want her to do (which is apparently to use Mugen more in Extend according to Mori). Do they want us to have less than stellar damage normally but then gain big buffs when we have charges or the opposite? How fast should we be able to get charges and what are some methods for getting that charge? In CS2 it was basically: what we get from charges is ok but since we have fast charging it balanced out since it led us to being able to gain mix-up and more options compared to how we are normally while still being able to hold up on our own without them and it worked. Tsubaki is probably the most balanced character in CS2. She’s good but she’s not overwhelming or overpowered. In Extend I feel that her difficulty in getting charges is really what hurt her, among other things, which hurts even more if we are to believe Mori in doing our damage through Mugen. Although, gaining charges appears to be getting better watching Kuresu and a few other Tsus and Mugen does seem to last a little bit longer than in CS2. Do I still believe that we’ll find a way to work around/with it? Of course, especially with apparently 90% of the Tsubakis importing Extend! :D I started to really think about this after a small discussion with Guardian on Saturday about Tsubaki and it got me thinking about her basic mechanics and what they could do to make her better fundamentally. However, I enjoy what I can do with Tsubaki and even though I know she can be better, all I can do is work with what I have to win and give my opponent as good a fight as I can give them~ .... That ended up being longer than I intended. EDIT: Yes, considering we probably have what I consider the most practical unblockable out of the whole cast at the cost of one charge.

Oooooo I like them especiallythemitsuruonenobias P4protag sprite looks fine to me as well.

I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade since there's a really good discussion going on but I moved all posts after this point to here, the Tsubaki Yayoi BB discussion thread. Only reason is because this is a simple question and answers thread. Please continue it there~

I wouldn't be trying to beat Ragna in the air since apparently Tsubaki likes her solid ground. In all seriousness though her air game is ass. Everyone can pretty much beat her in the air so if they're jumpers, just stay down and try to punish them from there. The air throw is basically if they just like to jump and do nothing after they jump most of the time. Netplay is very lol now due to many factors. What happened to my beautiful CT netcode

Tsubaki's 2C should be able to beat Ragna's j.C iirc but again I haven't played against Ragna recently so I'm not too certain. If they tend to double jump I say try waiting a little before trying to hit them with 2C since they may also be trying for a cross-up but Tsubaki should auto-correct to whichever direction they're in when you use it. Sorry I can't be more help past that though.

If they're jumping around a lot try AAing them with 2C instead since it may also land you a CH and then you can go into IAD combo and try air grabbing > 6CC. I haven't gone against many Ragnas lately to be honest so I can't really help there (sorry ) but I have gone against a lot of people who are jumpy and those two things usually get them.

Bye CS2 Tsubaki, we had a great run babe. Now it's off to Extend~ GGs to everyone I played and for getting me hooked onto MB haha!

12/4 Hyougo Koube http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16388438 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlAUGwXp8ho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1btLzCk3A

I can't go to Storm Underground... again OTL

I enjoyed Legendia. It did everything right... except for the battle system imo haha. Suikoden you don't really have to play the older games to understand the story in each iteration since it's all different and generations apart though they do have a timeline for where each iteration is. For Atelier... the battle system is just kinda tacked on there. It's clearly not their focus so I don't mind it. The main point I feel is item synthesizing (obvious right?) and the characters.

Sigh... The only Suikoden I can't get my hands on ;____; WHY HASN'T IT BEEN RELEASED ON PSN YET EDIT: I hear from a lot of people that the story really is bland lol...

IIRC from somewhere, I remember LK saying that Konan DP'd like no tomorrow from when he went to Japan.

12/2 Mirakururin (Ragna vs Carl) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16372069 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjjN6BoNBxo