Mightfo

Yeah, but why not add them to the top post for convenience?

Thanks, updated. lol what stay free cut that shit out. just because someone else said it back in ct doesnt mean you should say it now.

I am probably hosting saturday! If you think you'd be able to show up, say something. Small chance I wont be able to, though. I think i'll double confirm later tonight. I want more BB and AH3! also mmm kof13 so soon i can feel it i cant wait to make people salty with saiki's zoning, leona's mixup, and mai's pokes into big combos

do you mean combo wise? i assumed its main use was "have a low to do after 2b[m] since you have ranged overheads off it"

I know what you mean, but isnt it mitigated somewhat by general damage nerfs for the cast?

Yup, I noticed that. Good shit. what the fuck are you talking about people didn't rage over 6c[m] being too good, and yes, my complaining is about moveset design. that move should be particularly rewarding IMO because its slow as piss, even if you can use it as a useful gatling i think the move should keep its damage so that it isnt complete ass in neutral and so that it further forces them to respect her in ranged pressure you are way misfiring I am not the person to say this to. Some people are like OHH <X> IS BORING NOW which is just bull for 99% of the characters because most of their tools are the same, they're still going to be fun. Some people are way too fixated at combos, though, and confuse not having cool combos for not being fun. I am not one of these people, I realize that the changes are limited. But I get to complain about things that I think are stupid decisions. If Arcsys's balance decisions were more transparent, maybe I wouldn't. Then again, companies like blizzard are often transparent about changes and still look silly. why are you giving me the low tier speech i am complaining about what they did to a move because i dont think its a good way to handle that move. why are you acting like i need the low tier speech

a slow, risky move losing its large reward is stupid. this is about moveset design, why are you bringing the "BE A MANLY LOW TIER HERO" talk into this iirc she only gets like 3k off it in the corner now midscreen is lol

arghhhh why did they make 6c[m] have poor proration cant have a 24f move do damage or anything

ask their sales

Shoutouts to KD for helping with player names and adding a few more vids and a few other things.

reserved just in case

Names in parentheses are the names of litchi players. For some parts I just bracket off a part as like <Player Name> to indicate matches in between all have that Litchi player. [March 2012] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgmUqcaUuQ8#t=7m15s vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEaE1S9Z8-M#t=4m00s vs (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gesslhxGYSc vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEkAUgkq0PA#t=8m00s vs [February 2012] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtYa4XGWFBw vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irG7rwHCl8s vs , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE7l-kQI1WY#t=4m30s vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bhygk_rFrU vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzW3sA7XzEQ vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUx_-S7lfE0 vs (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6sPIElpnkE#t=2m50s vs , , (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJqK1HYiH8U#t=3m55s vs , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUiluIXiznM vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXn-ZfGnk_s#t=3m25s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOD5Lk2nGWA#t=3m40s vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOBL5Yln6kw vs (Hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhnk9NmgD04#t=5m00s vs , (Hideki Ngu) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX85JbMSFMs#t=2m10s vs (Hideki Ngu) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMWuEdOfYV8 vs (Yusekun) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToHMwAXu3yY vs , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vcDWaKqqys vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQiaBr7C9Mg vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcm7gglZvZA vs (Hori) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiGRAKs9ll0 vs (fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO-MptPx_pI vs , , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q1ASU3h_Zg vs , , (Mio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deiKPheAqJk vs (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acC4tP8AUGY vs , [January 2012] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bacbs5dYNeo vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lISKqlM1iyc#t=10m08s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6lhVXfCNE vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv1YPsoj0ws vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwOqpfi03G0 vs (Hane) http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?7778-Blazblue-Continuum-Shift-Video-Posting-Thread&p=1249552&viewfull=1#post1249552 (godsgarden. im not going to go through and find all the litchi in all of this, lmao. shounen in top 8 tho~ awesome event.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j6xLJ8GHdQ vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4O7Vw0ae4g vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_SVq0P1mCU vs (fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgpQ4CJL4MU vs , (fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwkEvFMjq0I#t=6m45s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJqq5kQWWqg vs , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix3pjoFH5-E vs , , (44:25), (1:31:15), , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St5nAxJPFA0#t=26m18s vs , , , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVwZyNd2ucw#t=2m20s vs , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t96C5x2VKMQ vs , (1:09:15), , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZGG6XJbwUs#t=14m15s vs , (31:10), , , (48:35) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXapIYPY5GE#t=4m44s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3lY8vZpz8#t=3m07s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i7TRaSSW4c vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6BOlKzgJS0 vs (kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H39w9NvjqYA vs (danchou) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnUpNoot22M#t=13m21s vs , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S6PvCo-h68#t=7m00s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYyBeLo-28A#t=12m05s vs (Hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWPWFO8KQrs vs , , (Hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gokdqFpUpQ#t=2m40s vs , (23:48 and later) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssl1Lmb9oVk#t=21m08s vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hq48yJMFWw#t=7m35s vs (fio) http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19635760 Shounen's Litchi vs Dora's Bang. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uApx2Y8MbdM#t=8m07s vs (Toppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y-_PCLv8QE vs (Kurisuro-to Mio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84aSbvWG-CY#t=9m25s vs (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp1sqzoXW9Q#t=4m50s vs (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOSRgqhBd38#t=3m40s vs , (m shi) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgjNIdrUC44#t=3m20s vs (fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc7EBXMYdGs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFVlx48aQi8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6nVUAdAqR8 vs (shounen) (netplay) [December 2011] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRj3gkmLUQA#t=3m50s vs (galileo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEkt4eWz0vQ#t=4m43s vs (galileo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRop8899Ug0#t=10m43s vs (toeto) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f2FkVfBoFE vs (toeto) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnQHCt0xT9U vs (toeto) ~~DAT SHOUNEN~~ (netplay sadly but at least it is japan netplay) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eNumqSLQnw vs Hima's http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6A396A6B5FC37591 vs Hima's ~~/DAT SHOUNEN~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX5eBSYQjkQ vs (Doctor) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc93qTnm9Sc#t=4m32s vs (Youjou) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcjeGt57CSw#t=7m30s vs , (Youjou) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8H2pqm-R6s vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdwoKJQB5Bs vs (U ra ra) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpyW4tbcCy4#t=7m44s vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wBSJ9Lsof8#t=7m34s vs (kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2blKgPq18Q#t=8m00s vs (yoru) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH6uW1ei4g0 vs , (saki ma, yoru) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC9xhzTGst8#t=4m47s vs , (yoru, yau) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYHM5uhKGA0 vs , , (poppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKu2eYfUK9s#t=6m52s vs , (poppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wAotLAm-z0#t=46m10s vs , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4QRm1EACPk#t=2m22s vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3UJQCndQjM vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIW0d37UUW0#t=11m05s vs <poppo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NH2DcUFss vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_MeL4n-yxk#t=4m34s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNtEQI1C2vg vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa-GDtEAoG8#t=7m50s vs </poppo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A23EsehzjL4#t=7m30s vs (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRCg5Lzhmoo vs (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY97KZT_5Ac vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZpjFud0v8 vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8en6eX66_I#t=10m51s vs (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTWaI6kZwao#t=10m06s vs (Ki) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9zXGFyhZmc vs (Youjou) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw7r8Ps2KLs vs (youjou) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UahDnP0QQSk vs , (hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozb3W-KJUUk#t=10m12s vs (kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta4z8xdzVXU vs (kikuchiyo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlAUGwXp8ho#t=11m02s vs (a-chan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWTS2CCgNY vs (fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKo2XT1qpXM#t=2m30s vs , (fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-egj2EqBe_I#t=10m10s vs (kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pykku4BOMjc vs , . (kikuchiyo. hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek7MOwtTRcc#t=2m40s vs (kikuchiyo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFqgajT4geI vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yCO4WZaGIA vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slsJ1kZ3hvA#t=8m20s vs (geroshabu) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng7ZdDSqbzY#t=5m00s vs , (geroshabu) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYFNNMS8NE vs (danchou) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlvUcqZq0-0#t=14m53s vs , , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgr_niFlP9Y#t=8m20s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0SLBJpEhZM vs , (Fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD_IVokAPn0#t=3m20s vs , (Youjo) <Tsucchi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGCb5XDAo0 vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx3zfCgvSiY vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F-0ItQf-nA vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIOxFNTgwYU vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_3NxwS0io vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzMaNZS9vMQ vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnC9PD_UOMA vs </Tsucchi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPmQDSDVvgs vs (2 matches, 2nd at 6m10s) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN7U0_G5Flc#t=53m15s vs :AR, (1h13m20s), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U27PgTmeMkI#t=26m15s vs , (chou?), , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntwATFH0dGw#t=24m08s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6KTxYVfqcY#t=5m00s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffOdHdKjL2A#t=3m33s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tep3t9cDJVc vs , (Nebuta, M shi) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GepCB-n2s3g#t=4m10s vs , (M shi, Nebuta) [November 2011] <a-chan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZDTyxqLuX0 vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odFt-V96QgE#t=4m26s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHc7AfCvL0U vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSy5g34KQu8#t=4m40s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dBT5iHKBO0#t=4m00s vs , </a-chan> <Neko ame> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDxRrq-b6P8#t=12m16s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLe-L02lsk vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDfK0h1pnTk vs , , , (dunno who other litchi is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOVHb8cNa0c#t=12m25s vs </neko ame> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtnGq5Q7nM vs , (li is kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x8x3zRqrqc#t=2m25s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwJKCHAzbpo vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TRsO_gwfSY vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Y-0usWsZo vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhT3phxP5xY&feature=feedu vs (li is toshi nou kyouko) FIO~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS0m1JwdtdA#t=6m38s vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfHRIgqRQn0 vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Hfmf3cgjg#t=3m40s vs /fio "Garongerosha"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7TN8Tco0Ok#t=4m17s vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vObZAbF4nps vs , (poty) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDngSksAufc vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm4wCOAphLA#t=8m00s vs /Garon Poty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6lsaBGY1Ag vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlrQpscayqM#t=4m12s vs /Poty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B5JujB_PV0 vs (li is Hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZun0XAX0Bs#t=4m25s vs (li is kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbP47umMp3s#t=3m20s vs (li is Kyouso) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfmVoHPOPNQ#t=4m50s vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqyLAoRf5No vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bAFTgqypE#t=44m18s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYcPNjdttk#t=8m20s vs (li is toppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y0TDlqvA-M#t=2m14s vs (li is toppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5YfHvvPb64&feature=feedu vs (li is danchou) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFk8PLisa_0 vs (li is kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENfL6fQh9Ns vs (li is kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npB5oByYu6M vs , fio~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iklLJ7Bu0pw vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNGqnD7SLqc vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4469RbJnjWc&feature=feedu vs /fio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO2r5Yuhv1I&feature=feedu vs , (litchi is geroshabu) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJJlZ7ZQFBA&feature=feedu vs , (li is Youjou) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBQUG4mnEcA#t=4m41s vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1cMHw8YkmM#t=5m35s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID2ezQ4mgiY vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v8TjT57P08#t=4m08s vs (litchi is fio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXJx8I0t4Ko vs , , (litchi player is Achan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF4Jm45oytM vs (Litchi player is Achan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGUEV2T922U vs (litchi player is Achan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRDAyauUYxA vs (litchi player is poppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipuEvAI6XrE&t=09m38s vs (litchi player is poppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ikZNWKCYA vs , , , (Litchi players are Achan, Ea, and Galileo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3hdmQaKCHs vs , , (Litchi player is Galileo) [October 2011] (if you want other october videos tossed in here, pm me or post them or something) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaqrQxHuf8Q#t=17m59s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxIQH1rF1rE#t=4m20s vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utYMsvWmPfs#t=13m05s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxjQaKlEy0#t=10m58s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaQDm-ZURE0 4:35 vs , 12:49 vs (li is kikuchiyo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKxoP-E-jwk vs (litchi is kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjcmvAjTTME vs , , , (li is kikuchiyo and shuka) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs8fx8atNh4&t=13m27s vs , 21:55 vs (li is kikuchiyo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvzIgE9WSqI vs , , (li is kikuchiyo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uuf3RYU3jg vs , (li is kikuchiyo and shuka) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8BEwBKlwJw vs (litchi is kyaro) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-WXWZ2ac8 vs , (litchi is kimura) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRf18wGbpM#t=3m30s vs , , (Litchi players are Hane, Poppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTTtHl7BiIg#t=14m07s vs , , (litchi is kimura) dat fio~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zakle_hLXVA&t=11m45s vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgiziR-EWoE vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgNrxgYjCKA vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vjZnZG0aA vs , www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpyGSUsY9Lw&t=10m05s vs /fio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9dkp13SsXk&t=12m52s vs (Litchi is poppo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQQi5K0IcY4#t=1m55s vs , , , , (Litchi players are Achan and Michi) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfCPKM5F5js&feature=related vs , (Litchi is Youjou) www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ux10yHTmuQ&t=8m50s vs , (Litchi players are Poppo, Hane)

I'll do the litchi CSE video thread.

boombox miiight but he'd need to get off work in time and would need a ride. not sure what would work best there

oso says he might make it depending on work

holy shit, i just tried some litchis today. i think they are my favorite fruit ever. god damn

Combo 18 is my favorite. So stylin.

supaa and eric also cant http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mbY3K0sdbiY#t=2m14s haha god damn this iori combo is great

pfhor, cheebz(would be late), oldboy might go(oldboy definitely will if pfhor does) aloha, ronin cant havent gotten any other responses yet, will post if i do

HEY THIS THREAD ISNT UPDATED ENOUGH HERE'S A BUNCH OF VIDS OF CSE LITCHI SOME ARE OLD AND ITS STILL PRETTY EARLY IN THE GAME'S LIFE SO SOME BAD EXECUTION HAPPENS BUT WHATEVER ps lk are you gonna edit this thread title to have CSE in it or should we start a new thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaQDm-ZURE0 vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vjZnZG0aA vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKxoP-E-jwk vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjcmvAjTTME vs , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvzIgE9WSqI vs , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uuf3RYU3jg vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8BEwBKlwJw vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-WXWZ2ac8 vs , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRf18wGbpM vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTTtHl7BiIg vs , , dat fio~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zakle_hLXVA vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgiziR-EWoE vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgNrxgYjCKA vs , /fio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9dkp13SsXk vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQQi5K0IcY4 vs , , , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ikZNWKCYA vs , , , GALILEOOO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3hdmQaKCHs vs , ,

updated front post with boombox's thing and removed horror's since he hasnt lived here in months hi taoftw HEY EVERYONE REMEMBER WHEN I USED TO DO VIDEO POSTS here's a nice video for anyone who hasn't checked out plant arcana yet and been like "oh my god that vein is so comboable" (its also like +7 iirc) also this soul calibur 5 character customization video is pretty sweet if you somehow havent seen that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAZTv_7yxoA console kof13, best matches IIRC are around 25 minutes to 37 minutes and 51 minutes to 1:05:00.(Probably further too, i stopped watching here). First 25 minutes are pretty skippable iirc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGGNbDsRlAw saiki's fireball is damn good

Yeah, you're right. Thanks. I was thinking of it as "Oh, it will pigeonhole you into using these options which are already used a lot" but I wasnt thinking about enough things.

I feel like most characters will just respond to this with 1-2 meaty jabs into a shorthop pursuit or something. You're paying like 4% life and backing yourself in the corner more in exchange for reducing their oki to something less interesting, like a shorthop into a string or something. It just feels artificial and silly, as opposed to "Oh, I made a good guess on wakeup and got out of pressure." It doesnt seem overpowered because of jabs etc, but it just doesnt create some sort of interesting new situation like a fun defensive option would. Its just Nope! Make midscreen knockdown mean less and more homogeneous for 4% life! I dont see how this contributes to the game. But I might just not be thinking about this right.

The backdash thing just seems silly to me. I dont see the benefits of having that there. Oh, I hit him, time to combo-wait, what? My command normal/special followup whiffed? it seems to me that it limits heavily what you can use as a wakeup meaty, since it will need to be something that you can reliably link and hitconfirm after as opposed to cancelling. Otherwise, you have to choose between getting damage if they hit a button and following up if they air recovered after a backdash. It doesnt even really beat things besides throws, it just..makes it to where the person on oki can't reliably get more than one hit of damage/pursuit. it seems to me that it may just homogenize some things without really adding a good defensive choice. But maybe i'm misunderstanding how air juggles and stuff work in this game or whatever. I hope im wrong, and i may very well be.

The console changes seem quite awesome, except for the backstep change which seems like nonsense to me.