King of Fighters XIV (PS4)

Angry Guy of DE · July 7, 2016

The trailer showed that Ramon's command grab super could connect corner or no. Whether the pick me up hit sends the opponent back further is debatable. The other super where Ramon jumps off the wall similar to Makoto's SA2 in 3rd strike is probably corner dependent.

As for MAX mode I'm referring to whether he has confirmable strings into MAX activation. If he can do cr.B >B > MAX > st.C/D into moves then more power to him.

I'm aware that Blue Mary isn't in the roster. DLC characters have not been confirmed 100% yet but I'm moreover saying that if she does ever return she likely won't be the same as she was in older versions with her hit-confirms. Just don't get Nostalgia goggles over characters and then be disappointed when they aren't as strong as you remember.

SolxBaiken · July 7, 2016

Everyone has MAX confirms one way or another, especially with run cancel activation.

And I still don't get where these Blue Mary comments are coming from . . . I only brought her up because (among other things) picking Angel was less practical in the past due to the fact that she was a lesser version of two other characters (Mary and May Lee). XIV has been pretty great to vets, returning characters to former glory (Terry) or elevating them to new heights (Mai) and of course solid designs are still solid (Kula).

Vulcan422 · July 7, 2016

Great. They decided to reveal the most boring team.

When's South Town team trailer?

NeoStrayCat · July 8, 2016

10 hours ago, Vulcan422 said:

Great. They decided to reveal the most boring team.

When's South Town team trailer?

Heh, you don't really seem impressed that its just nobody new, just old faces, also, the Mexico team is awesome regardless, proud Hispanics be damned.

Also, next week, so get ready for some PREDICTABO shenanigans! XD

GF9Returns · July 8, 2016

So it's proven that the King of Dinosaur IS "him" after all. Not surprised at the slightest.

I prefer his earlier look though.

swordsman09 · July 8, 2016

17 hours ago, Vulcan422 said:

Great. They decided to reveal the most boring team.

When's South Town team trailer?

I don't know. I'd say Team South America takes that one. I like how Ramon looks but I don't think I'd be able to play him.

SolxBaiken · July 8, 2016

6 hours ago, GF9Returns said:

So it's proven that the King of Dinosaur IS "him" after all. Not surprised at the slightest.

I prefer his earlier look though.

Damn Terry, spoilers much!? #kappa

On the one hand this sucks, cause the Griffon and Kingosaurus play almost completely differently, but this dampens the potential of them both ever being in the same entry. On the other hand, this leaves hope for a Mark of the Wolves Team revival. I would say this affects timeline canon, but apparently the true boss warps reality and such, so meh.

Vulcan422 · July 9, 2016

Meanwhile...

SolxBaiken · July 9, 2016

Man . . . DoA is really . . . whoring itself out these days . . .

Outside of the initial VF collaboration, everything else has felt like hollow market pandering. But, eh, this should be "interesting" (in a number of ways . . .)

Actually, these collaborations are becoming alarmingly common (though DoA is still the most frequent abuser of it) makes me wonder if companies are starting to lose faith in their own brand's ability to sell itself.

swordsman09 · July 9, 2016

51 minutes ago, SolxBaiken said:

Actually, these collaborations are becoming alarmingly common (though DoA is still the most frequent abuser of it) makes me wonder if companies are starting to lose faith in their own brand's ability to sell itself.

I don't think it's that. They wouldn't be following this type of marketing if it wasn't working. If you look at Akuma in Tekken 7, it's been bringing in all the SF players like Poongko and Justin. Ed Boon said that the most downloaded characters for MKX were Jason and Predator, and Scorpion for Injustice. If you look at the view count on the character trailers for Killer Instinct, an original character's trailer, like Mira, has around 100k while characters like Rash and Arbiter have over half a million.

But that's another topic. Apparently we're also getting costumes of Yuri, Hinako, and Kasumi (the KOF one obviously). For who, I don't know but I can guess.

videoman · July 9, 2016

https://twitter.com/KochMediaFR/status/751347876521975808
https://twitter.com/KochMediaFR/status/751342043063025665
http://www.mmcafe.com/news/posts/10200.html

48-character build shown for the first time

zhaoyun99 · July 9, 2016

48 minutes ago, swordsman09 said:

I don't think it's that. They wouldn't be following this type of marketing if it wasn't working. If you look at Akuma in Tekken 7, it's been bringing in all the SF players like Poongko and Justin. Ed Boon said that the most downloaded characters for MKX were Jason and Predator, and Scorpion for Injustice. If you look at the view count on the character trailers for Killer Instinct, an original character's trailer, like Mira, has around 100k while characters like Rash and Arbiter have over half a million.

But that's another topic. Apparently we're also getting costumes of Yuri, Hinako, and Kasumi (the KOF one obviously). For who, I don't know but I can guess.

I would be surprised if they would choose Kyo or Athena over Mai. Mai was so obvious for DOA. Mai's T&A made ppl rock to sleep more than the DOA girls.

swordsman09 · July 9, 2016

9 minutes ago, zhaoyun99 said:

I would be surprised if they would choose Kyo or Athena over Mai. Mai was so obvious for DOA. Mai's T&A made ppl rock to sleep more than the DOA girls.

To it's credit, I do think she's the best fit for the roster. She kinda pioneered jiggle physics, which the game is famous for, and a good chunk of the roster is filled with ninjas so she fits that part too.

SolxBaiken · July 9, 2016

5 hours ago, swordsman09 said:

--stuff--

I never said it wasn't effective, but this just proves my point . . . which I could further argument, but you're right about one thing; that's another topic. We're here to celebrate XIV.

It's always interesting to see how a developer arranges the character select screen, and there's some cool juxtaposition in XIV's. Like former flagship series (Fatal Fury opposite Art of Fighting), Kim against his old "disciples" (Korea opposite Villains), a second chance to halt evil (China opposite South Town), and K's murky relationship with the Ikari Warriors (self explanatory).

I kind of don't want them to unveil final boss, just let players discover it on their own (or until net leaks lol)

swordsman09 · July 9, 2016

1 hour ago, SolxBaiken said:

I kind of don't want them to unveil final boss, just let players discover it on their own (or until net leaks lol)

Well if this 100% accurate roster leak was anything to go by, the boss kinda looks like Duke from the MI games. I got nothing on the final boss though.

SolxBaiken · July 10, 2016

Yeah, I remember that.

Reminds me of a hyper form of Mukai, and Kukri is supposed to have a connection to the Ash saga ending, plus the boss has the power to manipulate space-time which is kind of a specialty of Those From the Past, so . . .

But I really hope that's not the boss' playable form; really hope they pull a Saiki and retains their inevitable much cooler appearance lol (seriously, a playable human Magaki would've been so cool Q.Q)

Also, man, I really hope Those From the Past and other dangling Ash saga threads are picked up/retcon back in cause as cool as XIII was gameplay wise, it completely ruined the narrative and timeline of the series. #noonecaresaboutfightinggamestories

JohnGrimm · July 11, 2016

On 7/7/2016 at 0:52 PM, SolxBaiken said:

picking Angel was less practical in the past due to the fact that she was a lesser version of two other characters (Mary and May Lee).

Bro, what? Angel is like undeniable top 3 in vanilla 02, hands down one of the strongest characters in the game, she was such a problem that in 02UM they had to take her down several pegs. I don't remember how she was in 01 but 01 in general is not a popular game and absolutely no one cares about Neowave regardless so I'm not sure where this comment is coming from. The game people know her from she was a monster.

Also, depending on if they kept Ramon's run cancel the same, he could be very scary in this game. No doubt (if it is the same) he'll get extended MAX confirms with cl.C df.B xx run feint cr.C df.B MAX and that will easily set up DP+K for the sobat into body splash into OTG, which looks incredibly good in this game since they appear to have made it a new special move. f.A headbutt into OTG, a new Tiger Road air throw into OTG, he's going to have a lot of opportunities to get damage which will be very beneficial in this game.

Angry Guy of DE · July 11, 2016

So at this moment we still don't have trailers for the following teams:
Team Psycho Soldier
Team Ikari (?)
Team Women Fighters
Team Another World
Team South Town
Team China

I totally forget that Ramon had a command normal of df.B. From the trailer he could do df.B > dropkick (214A/B?) so if it is special cancel then it probably can be MAX canceled. Ramon might be great in slot 2/3 if he isn't too hot at building meter.

Vulcan422 · July 11, 2016

Really hoping that Team Southtown is the next one revealed. I will rage if they get cucked by Team Psycho Soldier and that annoying harpy-voiced scrub magnet Athena.

SoWL · July 11, 2016

1 hour ago, Angry Guy of DE said:

So at this moment we still don't have trailers for the following teams:
Team Psycho Soldier
Team Ikari (?)
Team Women Fighters
Team Another World
Team South Town
Team China

I totally forget that Ramon had a command normal of df.B. From the trailer he could do df.B > dropkick (214A/B?) so if it is special cancel then it probably can be MAX canceled. Ramon might be great in slot 2/3 if he isn't too hot at building meter.

We're still missing the Team K' trailer, too but since we've already seen all its members in action, it's not surprising you would forget about them.

zhaoyun99 · July 11, 2016

On 7/9/2016 at 9:54 AM, swordsman09 said:

To it's credit, I do think she's the best fit for the roster. She kinda pioneered jiggle physics, which the game is famous for, and a good chunk of the roster is filled with ninjas so she fits that part too.

I think Jiggle physic aside, we should at least get some males representative as well. Sex appeal can only get you so far. Heck, in Fate Extra CCC, the whole selling point was Gilgamesh despite the in yo face fanservice of Passion Lips. VF got Akira and Jacky already. It wouldn't hurt to have Kyo or Iori or Omega Rugal. I think people would treat this game seriously if they got these character as well.