CompaNeptune Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Hello, I'm new to the forum. I want to say that I really like the BlazBlue series, but I think CP seems so difficult for me to pick up. I personally love Noel alot, and I chose to main her, but I've been dropping combos on her so much, and I'm not that good on playing a neutral game. I was playing against Kokonoe, and she was bodying me really bad. Can someone give me tips on fighting her? I would love to get better especially at neutral game. Thanks. Edited October 13, 2015 by CompaNeptune
mam'suh Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 did you take a look at the tutorial in this forum or the section dedicaded for noel (i know GGXrd have a section like that )did you do the tutorial /challenge/ mission (mission/challenge mode are in gg i'm sorry i don't know blazeblue , but since the two are airdashers and from the same editor ... ^^) those mode can learn you a bunch of good tips and advice to begin with... after that well i might say to play a lot , and learn from you're match ( replay if you can ) try to find some pro matches tookeep it up mate i'm in the same level as you , it's tough , but it's fun !!!
www.keeponrock.in Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Hello! Welcome to dustloop! I'm more of an Xrd player, but if you want to improve on your neutral game, in general, I think it would be good to start with small very specific situations that you commonly find yourself in. For example, what moves does Kokonoe do that you have problems with, what do you think you can do about it and what do you think doesn't work and why?You could also try using the BB Matchup Directory to find the Noel versus Kokonoe specific thread and ask questions there where somebody with more specific knowledge can help you out: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/forums/topic/11280-bb-matchup-directory/
Danaiden Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Yes, welcome to Dustloop and I hope you enjoy BlazBlue very much! Regarding Kokonoe: The newer Matchup Threads are still have to be filled with information, however both the new and old thread don't have any information regarding fighting Kokonoe, although she was very popular in the first version of Chrono Phantasma. So the best idea would be if you ask some specific question, like how to punish her fireball, etc, in her new Matchup Thread vs. Kokonoe. Assuredly the more experienced Noelers will help you there. It is important with Noel to know her Drive moves very well. You don't need more specific things like how much invulnerability a move has yet. It is enough to know what move is an overhead or which is a good combo ender. You already visited the Tutorial Mode, or? It will provide you very well with more general information. After it I recommend that you visit Noel's tutorial, since this one will provide info about her in particular, like good Action Revolver links/cancels and so on. After this take a look at her first 10 challenges in her Challenge Mode. It will show you some (very) basic combos and how to utilize her Distortion Drives and her Astral Heat. After all this you can try to memorize them in training mode and fight against the cast either in Versus or Arcade mode on a lower difficulty. If you often drop combos, I recommend that you first use some easier combos before you use some more advanced ones. Her Combo Thread contains beside optimal combos also some more basic ones. You can also ask question about specific combos there. Hopefully I could provide a little insight where to look up the information. If you want you can also write down your location and/or PSN/ XBox Live/ Steam ID so you can find people in your area more easily.
CompaNeptune Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Cool! Thank you guys so much for giving me some advice. I'll eventually try to keep practicing and work myself better in matchups, especially Kokonoe. also, I really should focus on executing beginner combos first before I move myself to advanced ones. I'll write down my location and Steam ID later. Edited October 14, 2015 by CompaNeptune
Airk Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Learning any fighting game is a long involved process, so you'll need to relax and enjoy the journey. Set goals for yourself: "Anti air my opponent when they jump in" "Watch for an overhead on wakeup" "Remember to do my new combo" Don't focus on winning, because you're going to be losing a LOT against experienced players.Start with basic combos - for a real beginner, I suggest trying to learn:A combo off 5A (That you can also use as your combo off 5B for now)A combo off throwA combo off one particular specific starter that your character might have - if you're playing Noel, I suggest 4D or 2D.From there, you can expand your repertoire as you encounter situations where you realize you are "missing" a combo. ("I hit with an anti-air...but what do I do next?" or "I blocked a DP, I wish I had a punish that did more damage.")There's no trick to learning to play neutral - save your recordings (BB actually does this by default, I believe now) and REVIEW THEM. Try to see past all the "Oh, I dropped my combo there" and "Dangit, that was supposed to be <MoveX>" (Though those are good observations too and can give you ideas of what to practice) and watch how you are moving, and how your opponent is moving and what you and they do at what distance. That can help inform your decisions going forward.And, because it's another thing lots of people have problems with - if you need to remember to do something during a match, seriously focus on ONE thing. "This match, I'm going to use my 2B more" and try to hold that ONE thing in your mind for the match. Maybe write it down, stick it on a post-it next to your monitor. Cling to that one idea. Remember you're not here to win, you're here to IMPROVE, and that means remembering to do your One Thing, even if it's not necessarily the RIGHT One Thing for a given situation. Work on remembering to use your tools, and you'll naturally start to incorporate them in ways that work.
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