kylehyde Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 38 minutes ago, MaximusMurkimus said: Speaking of which, did Rachel's Act 2 ending ever get translated? Was wondering if Izzy had anything to say on Rachel's increasing power loss/change of character. Like someone said, it seems like she's getting more and more like Ragna now and targeting Naoto seems like a very Ragnaish thing to. To be fair to Rachel Naoto is acting like a total creepo towards her. Plus he's threatening her precious Ragna's existence.
Zedar90 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 2 hours ago, MaximusMurkimus said: Was wondering if Izzy had anything to say on Rachel's increasing power loss/change of character. Izanami didn't mention anything about Rachel's power loss in Rachel's act 2. Izanami tells Rachel do defeat her and recreate the world, but Rachel says that she hasn't come to get the azure or grant her desire, she's come to confirm who Izanami is(it's the same line as Rachel says in the first CF trailer). After the battle, Rachel knows who Izanami really is. Izanami gives Rachel the azure, and Rachel begins to have a speech about the azure, how it makes all possibilities happen. And with it she could remove all of the drives from the world and wish for the world that her father was aiming for. But no matter what she wished to this azure, it wouldn't happen since it's a fragment. And even if she had the true azure, she couldn't because of the superior entitled. And then Rachel says that Izanami more then anyone else can't escape from "her" influence even though Izanami haven't noticed it herself. The Izanami can't exist without her, since Izanami is nothing more then her drive.
Yoshirocks92 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 I've been wondering, has Noel's Act II Arcade ever been translated?
Zedar90 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Yoshirocks92 said: I've been wondering, has Noel's Act II Arcade ever been translated? I've seen a summary, but... I don't know, it feels too confusing for me so I rather not translate it until I know more about what happens in it. But the general thing seems to be that Noel has lost the power of azure, and the cause seems to be the Noel in the Amaterasu unit(and I guess the split from Mu?). And it seems to end with Noel going to look for herself to take back what she has lost. She fights Jin, Lambda, Relius and Izanami. But, as I said, I'm unsure, it's not the best summary and sadly I haven't seen the arcade run myself.
Yoshirocks92 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 13 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: I've seen a summary, but... I don't know, it feels too confusing for me so I rather not translate it until I know more about what happens in it. But the general thing seems to be that Noel has lost the power of azure, and the cause seems to be the Noel in the Amaterasu unit(and I guess the split from Mu?). And it seems to end with Noel going to look for herself to take back what she has lost. She fights Jin, Lambda, Relius and Izanami. But, as I said, I'm unsure, it's not the best summary and sadly I haven't seen the arcade run myself. So I would have to say that in her Act III Arcade, Noel is either trying to find Mu-12 so they can become one again or Noel goes to find herself as Amaterasu or perhaps even both.
Sourenga Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 I've just finished uploading all the Act 2 footage I have to the usual place... Noel's story is there as well.
Tokkan Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Sourenga said: I've just finished uploading all the Act 2 footage I have to the usual place... Noel's story is there as well. You put down "Major Kisaragi" when it should be "Captain Kisaragi" (he was never a major in the embryo world).
Sourenga Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, Tokkan said: You put down "Major Kisaragi" when it should be "Captain Kisaragi" (he was never a major in the embryo world). Whoops! Thanks for pointing it out. Totally wrote that out of the old habit... I really should get someone else to proofread these. I'll upload a fixed version soon.
Zedar90 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 17 minutes ago, Sourenga said: I've just finished uploading all the Act 2 footage I have to the usual place... Noel's story is there as well. I looked there before today, but I didn't see it. Even if I'm bad at giving compliments, I'm grateful for your work, even though I don't read the translation that much I have it easier to find videos of the arcade runs. So Noel didn't lose the azure, it was more that she lost Kusanagi. And it said nothing to do with the Amaterasu unit. It seems like that confusing summary I read was very wrong on major parts.
Ogiga99 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 21 minutes ago, Sourenga said: I've just finished uploading all the Act 2 footage I have to the usual place... Noel's story is there as well. Thank you so much for your hard work, Sourenga. After seeing these I feel like I understand things a lot better. For one thing, Noel's story confirms that people will be targeting her (the playable version) since she is the higher entitled that is keeping the world the same. 3 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: I looked there before today, but I didn't see it. Even if I'm bad at giving compliments, I'm grateful for your work, even though I don't read the translation that much I have it easier to find videos of the arcade runs. So Noel didn't lose the azure, it was more that she lost Kusanagi. And it said nothing to do with the Amaterasu unit. It seems like that confusing summary I read was very wrong on major parts. So does this mean they never actually mention that the supposed "True Noe" is in the Master Unit? I can't remember if that was just from this or from another arcade as well. If that's no longer confirmed that throws a lot of things we assumed out the window since all we know for sure is that Noel is the one creating and maintaining the current world inside the Embryo, but not what created the original world.
Tokkan Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 Stop saying "True Noel". While they're very explicit about the girl inside Amaterasu being Noel (or at least a version of her), like in Nine's ending she says "Noel Vermillion" as the image of the girl is overlayed on top of an image of the Master Unit is shown, at no point is it clarified if one is real or not or if they are even truly separate. At the very least, the playable one is "Noel" and the Amaterasu one is "Her".
Yoshirocks92 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 52 minutes ago, Sourenga said: I've just finished uploading all the Act 2 footage I have to the usual place... Noel's story is there as well. I have to say that I really feel bad for Noel and that was just in Act II. I just hope that Mori knows what he's doing for Noel's side of the story and hope she gets a happy ending in the console version.
Ogiga99 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 41 minutes ago, Tokkan said: Stop saying "True Noel". While they're very explicit about the girl inside Amaterasu being Noel (or at least a version of her), like in Nine's ending she says "Noel Vermillion" as the image of the girl is overlayed on top of an image of the Master Unit is shown, at no point is it clarified if one is real or not or if they are even truly separate. At the very least, the playable one is "Noel" and the Amaterasu one is "Her". Personally I've also always hated the term "True Noel" (hence why I tend to put quotation marks around it) and only used it because everyone else did and they recognized the term. However this is leading me to question several things. Namely even in Nine's story, the context of her saying Noel Vermilion does not line up with the Master Unit image (which appears in every ending, regardless of context, like how Act I ended with the close up of Nine's face). Nine is talking about the one who is creating and maintaining "this world" meaning the Embryo. The world in the Embryo is explicitly different from the one created by the Master Unit so Noel ruling the Embryo doesn't mean she is the same as the one in the Master Unit in any way except for looking similar (a trait she shares with like 5 other characters). After this information I think it's too soon to say anything for sure about the girl in the Master Unit aside from that she is another Saya clone (design wise).
Tokkan Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 You're overthinking it. Rachel's Act 2 ending states it's "Her" (girl in Amaterasu) that's doing all the recreating of the world, that even if people got the true Azure and not just a fragment "the will of she who nobody is higher than in existence" (Sourenga's subs just shortens this to "Superior Entitled", but that's a different term) would just undo their wish, no one can overthrow "Her." That not even Izanami can escape "Her" influence, since she is "Her" drive.
kylehyde Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 4 hours ago, Tokkan said: Stop saying "True Noel". While they're very explicit about the girl inside Amaterasu being Noel (or at least a version of her), like in Nine's ending she says "Noel Vermillion" as the image of the girl is overlayed on top of an image of the Master Unit is shown, at no point is it clarified if one is real or not or if they are even truly separate. At the very least, the playable one is "Noel" and the Amaterasu one is "Her". I apologize but that term probably came from me, I didn't want to confuse people when talking about Noel since there would be two now, so I used that term simply to let people know I was talking about the girl in the Amaterasu unit. I won't use it anymore.
churchblue Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 Mori still hasn't explain Es's involvement in CF yet. Her appearance couldn't be just for no reason.
Luminos564 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 Then again, we do need to call the girl confined within the Amaterasu something. We can't just constantly refer to her as "Her", that'd just get confusing for anyone tuning in. But I do understand that calling her "True Noel" does imply that somehow the playable Noel is a "fake", which we have no current proof of. So what do you propose we call the entity inside the Amaterasu? We do know the name ("Noel"), but calling her that without distinguishing from our playable Noel is just going to create a mess. Speaking of Noel, I dunno about anyone else but I always hated when a character in any medium gets "depowered". In this case, it seems like Noel lost the abilities of Kusanagi (Mu-12). Personally, I find it distasteful considering a good portion of Noel's CP character development was finally coming to terms with it and obtaining its power for her own use. Granted, she only got mileage out of it in the Arcade runs as it was one-shotted by Beastborg Ragna, but that still doesn't change the effort put in to get it. And all so we can continue having more identity crisis scenarios for the gal. Le sigh, I guess I'll just have to hope she regains it by the time we roll out in the Highwind and land in the Northern Crater to go kick Sephiroth's...wait, wrong game.
Ogiga99 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 4 hours ago, Tokkan said: You're overthinking it. Rachel's Act 2 ending states it's "Her" (girl in Amaterasu) that's doing all the recreating of the world, that even if people got the true Azure and not just a fragment "the will of she who nobody is higher than in existence" (Sourenga's subs just shortens this to "Superior Entitled", but that's a different term) would just undo their wish, no one can overthrow "Her." That not even Izanami can escape "Her" influence, since she is "Her" drive. All Rachel says is that "no one can overthrow ["Her"] will" not that that she is the one undoing the worlds. Izanami explicitly tells the playable Noel that she is the source of the current distortion; that she needs to die in order for people to fulfill their wishes and everyone will come to kill her so how can it be the girl in the Master Unit that is resetting the Embryo?
JustaMaskedFreak Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 Just to ask, did we just related Noel as Amaterasu because of the arcade endings? If so, what if Amaterasu isn't Noel and Nine want everyone to destroy her since she has the Kusanagi? Yes, I know that she lost the power, but I don't think it is impossible to her for recover that same power. Noel always has been aimed as powerful, think about it: the Calamity Trigger, her abilities with ars magus, our little Kusanagi (brainwashed by ), later she learn how to turn Mu-12. Despite Ragna being the powerful one and a wild card, Noel really does have a power to end (or at least wipe out) some of this threats, maybe that's why Izanami and Nine are targeting her to kill
Ogiga99 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 8 hours ago, Sourenga said: Whoops! Thanks for pointing it out. Totally wrote that out of the old habit... I really should get someone else to proofread these. I'll upload a fixed version soon. One tiny thing. In Nine's fight with Kokonoe you have Nine say she hates her parents (plural) but the kanji for parent used (at least I think I have the right kanji, it's small and blurry) can be singular. Nine only hates her father and, going by Watashi, she loved her mother, who died when Nine was young and was not insolent and egotistic (she acted pretty much exactly like an older Celica). I think she's saying to Kokonoe that they are similar in that they both have hatred towards parents, not that they hate their parents (small difference but important) so the line would be something like "I also hate a parent. He (my father) was insolent and egotistic." Now I could be completely wrong since my knowledge of Japanese is limited so feel free to tell me I'm an idiot if that's the case, but this seems to be a situation where the language's ability to skip specifying whether a noun is singular or plural and not assign he or she to subjects is confusing and context sensitive. 2 hours ago, Luminos564 said: Then again, we do need to call the girl confined within the Amaterasu something. We can't just constantly refer to her as "Her", that'd just get confusing for anyone tuning in. But I do understand that calling her "True Noel" does imply that somehow the playable Noel is a "fake", which we have no current proof of. So what do you propose we call the entity inside the Amaterasu? We do know the name ("Noel"), but calling her that without distinguishing from our playable Noel is just going to create a mess. Speaking of Noel, I dunno about anyone else but I always hated when a character in any medium gets "depowered". In this case, it seems like Noel lost the abilities of Kusanagi (Mu-12). Personally, I find it distasteful considering a good portion of Noel's CP character development was finally coming to terms with it and obtaining its power for her own use. Granted, she only got mileage out of it in the Arcade runs as it was one-shotted by Beastborg Ragna, but that still doesn't change the effort put in to get it. And all so we can continue having more identity crisis scenarios for the gal. Le sigh, I guess I'll just have to hope she regains it by the time we roll out in the Highwind and land in the Northern Crater to go kick Sephiroth's...wait, wrong game. Personally ever since we learned there was someone in the Master Unit I've just called her "The Girl." This is because it is the name Rachel gives for her equivalent character in The Story of the World. It is still a very vague term but it sounds more natural then "Her" and I still am confused as to whether we are positive she is named Noel. If we have to call her Noel, since I seem to be in the minority when it comes to questioning this, perhaps we could use something like "Amaterasu Noel" or "Master Unit Noel" to specify we are talking about the girl inside and not the unit itself. Thoughts? I don't mind it in this case since Mu became her own character. Essentially there are now two characters. Mu has accepted Godslayer power but struggles with the fact that she possesses the part of her that hates the world and wants to destroy everything and the Noel who has rejected that destructive impulse. I would argue that while Noel accepted the power of Kusanagi, she only suppressed her hatred of the world. Once that returned to the forefront she rejected only that side of her and the Godslayer powers leaving with it was just a side effect (I'm getting a very Persona 4 Shadow vibe from this). I also think her poor showing is the reason the two were split. Noel didn't do anything with Kusanagi since Mu was just a power-up so they split the two to give them each meaningful roles. Besides, just like Ragna's life is always doomed to suck Noel is doomed to suffer constant identity crises. 1 hour ago, JustaMaskedFreak said: Just to ask, did we just related Noel as Amaterasu because of the arcade endings? If so, what if Amaterasu isn't Noel and Nine want everyone to destroy her since she has the Kusanagi? Yes, I know that she lost the power, but I don't think it is impossible to her for recover that same power. Noel always has been aimed as powerful, think about it: the Calamity Trigger, her abilities with ars magus, our little Kusanagi (brainwashed by ), later she learn how to turn Mu-12. Despite Ragna being the powerful one and a wild card, Noel really does have a power to end (or at least wipe out) some of this threats, maybe that's why Izanami and Nine are targeting her to kill At the moment it's unclear how direct the connection between playable Noel and the Master Unit is. However, Noel's Act II ending outright confirms that the playable Noel is the one who is denying the other Entitleds' worlds and keeping everything the same. The Azure shows her the future where people will come to kill her for the sake of their desires (although you hear people like Ragna, Makoto, Bang and Kagura who almost certainly won't turn on her so it's unclear if that is the absolute truth). At the moment it is impossible for anyone to actually die in the Embryo. In every recursion after the Master Unit appears in the sky and someone challenges Izanami, the world created by an Entitled gets undone (this is why the Master Unit isn't in the sky in Naoto's ending, it only appears after everything starts shaking and Izanami challenges someone and then disappears after Noel resets things). Izanami lets Ragna stab him in his ending because she knows it will not matter and will be undone. Nobody can actually die until the source of the distortion is destroyed so it would be impossible to kill Noel if the only reason Nine and Izanami wanted to do so was because she was a threat. It is confirmed that Noel is the source of the distortion so she needs to die before the villains can try to kill people for other reasons. On a completely different note, and something of a random tangent, something interesting but confusing stood out to me. Continuing the tradition of Naoto confusing members of the cast for BE characters (Rachel for Raquel, Nu/Lambda for Kiiro, Izanami for Saya Terumi etc.), he mistakes Makoto for Yuki Hayami. This is baffling because (from the description we've gotten of Yuki) the two don't look alike at all. Yuki has orange hair, isn't part squirrel and most importantly is his aunt and therefore much older than Makoto (at the very least in her mid thirties). However, there is one thing that might be important about this. Both Makoto and Yuki Himezuru (from XBlaze) are voiced by Tomomi Isomura. This could be another hint that Yuki Himezuru and Yuki Hayami are the same person. Of course if that's the case then it's likely that Bloodedge Experience takes place earlier than we might have thought. Since Yuki Hayami has a 16 year old daughter, and Himezuru clearly doesn't have a child in XBlaze, BE could take place in 2067 at the very earliest (I'm fairly certain both CE and LM aren't both done before the end of March), which would make Yuki 42-43 years old. Previously a lot of speculation suggested BE took place around 2090 due to how young Relius is during it and that age would make him somewhere around 40-50 in the present (which seems to fit with how he looks factoring in arriving in the main BlazBlue world in 2179). My issue with this theory is that I can't believe Relius managed go from mercenary as one of the Immortal Breakers all the way to a master of Science, Alchemy and even become One, leader of the Ten Sages, in such a short period of time. There is precedence for mages looking much younger than they actually are. Celica still looked very young even when she was the Sister and therefore over 90 years old while Zwei looks to be in her late twenties but almost certainly has to be over 35 to have mentored Drei and Kuon's mother (and probably significantly older to be so much more experience than them) so it is likely that there are advanced magic techniques that slow one's aging. Instead, I believe that BE takes place around 2070 since technology doesn't appear to have evolved much since XBlaze, TOi and the Mitsurugi Agency are still prominent and Mei is still very active. I apologize since this is kinda off topic but I wanted to get my thoughts out about it.
Yoshirocks92 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Ogiga99 said: Personally ever since we learned there was someone in the Master Unit I've just called her "The Girl." This is because it is the name Rachel gives for her equivalent character in The Story of the World. It is still a very vague term but it sounds more natural then "Her" and I still am confused as to whether we are positive she is named Noel. If we have to call her Noel, since I seem to be in the minority when it comes to questioning this, perhaps we could use something like "Amaterasu Noel" or "Master Unit Noel" to specify we are talking about the girl inside and not the unit itself. Thoughts? Well I've been calling Noel as the Master Unit, "Amaterasu Noel" and I was just going to give the idea out since it was what I was thinking since it was perfect way of telling them apart.
Axiomatic Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Ogiga99 said: Personally ever since we learned there was someone in the Master Unit I've just called her "The Girl." This is because it is the name Rachel gives for her equivalent character in The Story of the World. It is still a very vague term but it sounds more natural then "Her" and I still am confused as to whether we are positive she is named Noel. If we have to call her Noel, since I seem to be in the minority when it comes to questioning this, perhaps we could use something like "Amaterasu Noel" or "Master Unit Noel" to specify we are talking about the girl inside and not the unit itself. Thoughts? If GG can have "That Man", it seems fitting we have someone named just as vaguely in BB (at least until we get an official/localized name). Quote I don't mind it in this case since Mu became her own character. Essentially there are now two characters. Mu has accepted Godslayer power but struggles with the fact that she possesses the part of her that hates the world and wants to destroy everything and the Noel who has rejected that destructive impulse. I would argue that while Noel accepted the power of Kusanagi, she only suppressed her hatred of the world. Once that returned to the forefront she rejected only that side of her and the Godslayer powers leaving with it was just a side effect (I'm getting a very Persona 4 Shadow vibe from this). I also think her poor showing is the reason the two were split. Noel didn't do anything with Kusanagi since Mu was just a power-up so they split the two to give them each meaningful roles. Besides, just like Ragna's life is always doomed to suck Noel is doomed to suffer constant identity crises. On Mu/Noel's break up; from a narrative standpoint your reason makes sense especially with all the Noel magical girl (exhibitionist) jokes when CP came out. I can only hope unlimited Mu gets CS Kusanagi voice back ;_; since that was the only time they ever felt completely different. The split does leave a sour taste in the mouth though since now we have 5 Sayas running around with Noel and Mu being the same character at one point. Hopefully Mori can write decent juxtaposition of character development with these two so its not just a thinly veiled justification for Noel vs. Mu matches and leads somewhere interesting. On principle the two girls seem to have the shadow relationship, but Noel's "shadow" Mu didn't want from the outset to hurt Noel, goading Noel to reject or accept her. Rather I got the impression she just wanted to be reunited to be complete. Depending on Act III's route for Mu though, you might have nailed what this is like now since Mu isn't exactly playing "Where on Earth has Noel Vermillion Gone?" after Act II. Can we talk about how f'ed up it was to put all the blame and hatred on Mu while Noel gets amnesia? I'm sure it was unintended like how CS was unintentionally caused by Noel's Eye going nutz, but still. Quote On a completely different note, and something of a random tangent, something interesting but confusing stood out to me. Continuing the tradition of Naoto confusing members of the cast for BE characters (Rachel for Raquel, Nu/Lambda for Kiiro, Izanami for Saya Terumi etc.), he mistakes Makoto for Yuki Hayami. This is baffling because (from the description we've gotten of Yuki) the two don't look alike at all. Yuki has orange hair, isn't part squirrel and most importantly is his aunt and therefore much older than Makoto (at the very least in her mid thirties). However, there is one thing that might be important about this. Both Makoto and Yuki Himezuru (from XBlaze) are voiced by Tomomi Isomura. This could be another hint that Yuki Himezuru and Yuki Hayami are the same person. Of course if that's the case then it's likely that Bloodedge Experience takes place earlier than we might have thought. Since Yuki Hayami has a 16 year old daughter, and Himezuru clearly doesn't have a child in XBlaze, BE could take place in 2067 at the very earliest (I'm fairly certain both CE and LM aren't both done before the end of March), which would make Yuki 42-43 years old. Previously a lot of speculation suggested BE took place around 2090 due to how young Relius is during it and that age would make him somewhere around 40-50 in the present (which seems to fit with how he looks factoring in arriving in the main BlazBlue world in 2179). My issue with this theory is that I can't believe Relius managed go from mercenary as one of the Immortal Breakers all the way to a master of Science, Alchemy and even become One, leader of the Ten Sages, in such a short period of time. There is precedence for mages looking much younger than they actually are. Celica still looked very young even when she was the Sister and therefore over 90 years old while Zwei looks to be in her late twenties but almost certainly has to be over 35 to have mentored Drei and Kuon's mother (and probably significantly older to be so much more experience than them) so it is likely that there are advanced magic techniques that slow one's aging. Instead, I believe that BE takes place around 2070 since technology doesn't appear to have evolved much since XBlaze, TOi and the Mitsurugi Agency are still prominent and Mei is still very active. I apologize since this is kinda off topic but I wanted to get my thoughts out about it. After Lost Memories I kind of gave up trying to piece together a time table for Mori's extended universe unless actual dates are specified; I hate alternate dimensions/timelines. We certainly have the direct connection between Valkenhayn, Relius, Clavis, and Naoto to Blazblue at least to work with though. You certainly have a point though, how did Relius go from a well-dressed mercenary with Mitsurgi to being One in such a short time based on the popular theory? Helps, as nuts as he is, Relius is crazy smart and there are people who advance really fast based on their intelligence (looking at you early PhDers). That and the Ten Sages don't have the best track record with mental health screenings if we use your premise that Xblaze and Bloodedge Experience are directly connected (how did no one notice Sechs was a little...off before they gave him access to their information and a "get out of oversight" free card/title?). I would refrain from trying to eyeball ages of anime/video game characters since that can lead to weird places. If we know people are in high school, then feel free. But once shounen anime characters turn 20ish they don't start to age until they have kids or turn 60ish (depending on what you watch). I think appeared ages are circumstantial at best, but your character connections seem plausible. Now with the Embyro messing with dates, I have even less faith in Mori's chronological structure to his stories (see how Tager has been serving Kokonoe longer in Embryo world than in pre-CF world). I'm just waiting for Blazblue to end like Newhart where Noel wakes up and all of the games and spin-offs took place within Noel's dreams. I think the crux of the connection is going to depend on Naoto's and Ragna's connection. All we got is that they're "way too similar" and people do a double take on Naoto thinking he's Ragna (that and supposedly their souls are the same). We know both Nine in her Act II and Takamagahara in CS described Ragna as the "origin" though and he is apparanetly an artificial person. Now I used to think in CS that was just referring to Ragna ending up in 2100 as the Black Beast, but the way Nine brought it up, it sounds like there is more to this. The fact they don't call Ragna a Chronophantasma (type Celica or type Rachel/Noel) I think is telling as it means Ragna isn't the normal kind of anomaly so he's not some alternate fate for Naoto nor someone that shouldn't exist. In b4 Ragna is just Naoto's drive manifested like Izanami is Amatarasu's. Are they parallel existences from a different timeline/dimension? Is it they just have the same soul? Did they get drunk one day and buy a timeshare together? Are they so archetypical shounen protagonists that our other characters are getting confused by the cliche? Only time will tell.
MaximusMurkimus Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Yoshirocks92 said: Well I've been calling Noel as the Master Unit, "Amaterasu Noel" and I was just going to give the idea out since it was what I was thinking since it was perfect way of telling them apart. How about "Big Noel" for the Noel within the Master Unit and "Venom Noel" for the playable one :P
Yoshirocks92 Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 17 minutes ago, MaximusMurkimus said: How about "Big Noel" for the Noel within the Master Unit and "Venom Noel" for the playable one :P That's actually pretty good too.
heavymetalmixer Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcqxsChXEAA14uH.jpg:large Discuss.
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