BeakDriver Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Fenris said: Phew, thank the gods, Es is dressed conservatively. I was starting to get a bit annoyed by all the boobs going out of orbit, denim panties, and skintight latex t-shirts and such. Same.
Contreras1991 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Finuve said: I'd never complain about more cleavage, but I like variety and Es looks good. Really intrigued by her basically calling for Ragna She is helping the " touya" of this era xD
IsItWitty Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Luminos564 said: Take a look right smack in the middle of the background. Notice the eye and maw of teeth. THAT'S A BLACK BEAST! *Original post courtesy of Shado_Onikkisu so be be sure to thank them. It's certainly something
Fenris Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Finuve said: I'd never complain about more cleavage, but I like variety and Es looks good. Really intrigued by her basically calling for Ragna All the fanservice pandering and such just comes across as shounen as fuck, but this is Blazblue we're talking about here, so... It's just, not everyone that plays this game is some horny twelve year old. Not to mention the fact that one can still have a sizable bust and dress conservatively--case in point: Es. But them outta orbit-ass boobs, though, were on a whole other level. Variety is key here as well. But I digress--another topic, another thread. On topic, though: The fact that she appeared in Naoto's visions seems to lend more to a connection between Ragna and him. Could Ragna have been getting the same visions as Naoto (and for some reason this wasn't shown)?
Zedar90 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Thinking back to Ragna's act 1, I wonder if it was Es that told him to go to the cauldron before Ragna's act 1. Also why it's said she appears in the beginning, but not full out after half way. In other words, she first helps Ragna get up on his feet while he has amnesia and when Ragna is on his way she goes and guards the gate until around when the arcade routes ends and she reappers.
Toxin45 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 So her stage has the black beast but that one looks like the one from xblaze did anyone notice it?
1337 H@x0r Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Well... 1 minute ago, Toxin45 said: So her stage has the black beast but that one looks like the one from xblaze did anyone notice it? Nope, can't see shite in that smol image.
Toxin45 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Well I did it had the same appearance as the one from xblaze and it had gold eyes for some reason
1337 H@x0r Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Well... 3 minutes ago, Toxin45 said: Well I did it had the same appearance as the one from xblaze and it had gold eyes for some reason Maybe that explains Touya's absense...
Luminos564 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 1 minute ago, 1337 H@x0r said: Nope, can't see shite in that smol image. Direct your attention to directly above Es' energy beam thing. You'll see the white eye as well as teeth from a newly formed Black Beast. 13 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: Thinking back to Ragna's act 1, I wonder if it was Es that told him to go to the cauldron before Ragna's act 1. Also why it's said she appears in the beginning, but not full out after half way. In other words, she first helps Ragna get up on his feet while he has amnesia and when Ragna is on his way she goes and guards the gate until around when the arcade routes ends and she reappers. Hey, that actually makes sense. She wasn't there when Noel/Mu-12 saw the Gate itself was she? And now that it has been "found", Es shows up as the "scary Guardian" that Amane mentions. Though I'm curious since she (at the least) isn't hostile to Ragna but the way Amane words it, it seems she wouldn't allow the empty Amaterasu to be sent through the Gate. Gah, this is getting too good.
Contreras1991 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 im wonder what astral finish Es will have. These temporary havocs has not been caused in part by the time travel of Ragna?
1337 H@x0r Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Well... 7 minutes ago, Contreras1991 said: im wonder what astral finish Es will have. These temporary havocs has not been caused in part by the time travel of Ragna? There is a paradox which was never explained, if the Dark War was caused by Ragna and Nu fusing into a Black Beast and falling through the Cauldron back in time then at least one vastly different timeline existed when the Dark War was caused by something else yet Ragna and Nu still end up existing. It's a question of eggs coming before the chicken since Ragna and Nu couldn't possibly have retroactively caused their existences before they travelled back in time at least once. Evidence is pointing towards XB somehow being the timeline leading to the BB world by virtue of the Wadatsumi incident being retconned from existence and Es stage being a ruined world points towards her own Universe getting shafted by Mori.
Ogiga99 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 49 minutes ago, Fenris said: All the fanservice pandering and such just comes across as shounen as fuck, but this is Blazblue we're talking about here, so... It's just, not everyone that plays this game is some horny twelve year old. Not to mention the fact that one can still have a sizable bust and dress conservatively--case in point: Es. But them outta orbit-ass boobs, though, were on a whole other level. Variety is key here as well. But I digress--another topic, another thread. BlazBlue is the ultimate melting pot of absolutely anything and everything anime. This means it will include every anime trope and stereotype. Gratuitous fanservice is a part of that. Besides for every ridiculously skimpy character (Litchi, Mu, Makoto, Bullet, Nine) there is a character that is dressed very conservatively (Rachel, Tsubaki, Izayoi, Celica, Es) or at least ones with more low-key and, for lack of a better term, "tasteful" fanservice (CP Noel, Nu, Lambda, Kokonoe, Izanami). Personally it's never bothered me. I see it the same way I see Kill La Kill, it's so intentionally over the top that it is meant to be parody. Although I'm not sure why you were worried about Es, she has always dressed conservatively. XBlaze in general has much more normal outfits (aside from Acht and Freaks) because it is from a time where everything was less batshit and fashion was much more in line with the real world. The only fanservice in XBlaze comes from pool scenes, bath scenes and "spirit nudity," not outfits. The only exception is when Es is Nobody and you could blame that on her meeting Watashi and crossing over into BlazBlue's weirdness. 44 minutes ago, 1337 H@x0r said: Well... Maybe that explains Touya's absense... I doubt it. The Black Beast from XBlaze is still chilling in the Boundary. It has unknown origins and emerged from the Wadatsumi Gate, forcing the Azure Shrine Maiden to sacrifice herself to lure it back in. This Black Beast still exists because Touya's power comes from the Original Grimoire drawing on its power. While yes, Touya can turn into another Black Beast it's highly unlikely that would happen. At the end of Code: Embryo, even after falling into despair Touya was able talk to the Arbitrator, the heart of the Original Grimoire. Not only did it give him the hope to continue on as opposed to going berserk, it taught him how to fully control the Grimoire by using XBlaze. Unlike Ragna who is corrupted by his Azure Grimoire, Touya literally is the Original Grimoire and it doesn't seem interested in causing him to become a Black Beast. If he has completely mastered the Grimoire he won't let himself become the Black Beast. Furthermore, even if he started to turn, Es will still keep her promise to destroy him before he fully transforms so this being a new Beast or the XBlaze one (which is a God of Calamity outside of the Logic like Izanami mentioned) is far more likely. 58 minutes ago, Luminos564 said: Direct your attention to directly above Es' energy beam thing. You'll see the white eye as well as teeth from a newly formed Black Beast. Unfortunately the Black Beast has never had a consistent design. The one that appears in CT bad ends has reddish glowing parallelogram-shaped eyes and actual teeth (Sorry I'm only posting links, not the actual images because I can't figure out how to make them full size, help please). http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/blazblue/images/6/63/Iron_Tager_%28Calamity_Trigger%2C_Story_Mode_Illustration%2C_4%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20120310224444 Which is the same design as this image (anyone know where this one is from because I can't remember). http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/blazblue/images/3/3b/BlackBeast4.png/revision/latest?cb=20110118094959 It also has similarities with this image, from I believe Noel's CS story, depicting the Black Beast from the Dark War except the eyes are round and the teeth aren't a different color. http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/blazblue/images/e/e9/Noel_Vermillion_%28Continuum_Shift%2C_Story_Mode_Illustration%2C_4%2C_Type_A%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20100803191717 However, when the actual Ragna/Nu fusion Black Beast is shown in Phase Shift it looks completely different, having several sets of eyes, a more elongated beak-shaped face, no distinct teeth and an overall sharper and more "solid" appearance. http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/blazblue/images/0/06/BB_PS2_179.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130326173909 Which actually looks more like the XBlaze design. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/blazblue/images/b/b6/XBlaze_Code_Embryo_%28Illustration%2C_62%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20130803225447 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/blazblue/images/2/22/Black_Beast_%28Concept_Artwork%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20160302093127 Also, the design seen when Ragna goes berserk in the CP true ending looks like a fusion between all of them, having the round eyes from Noel's CS, the separate teeth from the CT bad endings and the overall streamlined design of Phase Shift and XBlaze. http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/blazblue/images/c/c5/Chronophantasma_%28Chronophantasma%2C_Story_Mode_Illustration%2C_24%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20131102194150 Then there's the problem of the proto-Black Beast from That Which Is Inherited, which has CT's eyes but no teeth and none of the curves the CT design has (although this could just be because it is the least mature version we've seen). http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/blazblue/images/c/c4/That_Which_Is_Inherited_%28Continuum_Shift_II%2C_Story_Mode_Illustration%2C_2%2C_Type_B%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20120417152107 Based on all of this, the new design seems to most resemble the design seen in Noel's CS story with the eyes from the CT bad endings. At this point I think it's impossible to actually tell what this means besides "holy shit that's the Black Beast!" 31 minutes ago, 1337 H@x0r said: Well... There is a paradox which was never explained, if the Dark War was caused by Ragna and Nu fusing into a Black Beast and falling through the Cauldron back in time then at least one vastly different timeline existed when the Dark War was caused by something else yet Ragna and Nu still end up existing. It's a question of eggs coming before the chicken since Ragna and Nu couldn't possibly have retroactively caused their existences before they travelled back in time at least once. Evidence is pointing towards XB somehow being the timeline leading to the BB world by virtue of the Wadatsumi incident being retconned from existence and Es stage being a ruined world points towards her own Universe getting shafted by Mori. You're missing the essence of the paradox, there is no beginning because Ragna and Nu came back before they even existed. Chronological time doesn't matter because the Boundary connects all of time and space. The Black Beast and Wheel of Fortune Jin emerged from the Cauldron on December 31, 2099, whereas the timeloop began on January 1, 2100, making both the Black Beast fought in the Dark War and the version of Jin to become Hakumen are constants and essentially fact. This isn't the only way paradox's exist. Ragna's Azure Grimoire has no origin because it is made from the Black Beast's remains. Ragna's right arm is actually his own decapitated corpse. The thing that threatens to transform him into a Black Beast has always been his own body. We know that it's always been like this because the Endless Waltz short story, which takes place in Phase 0 and is the only time Rachel drank his blood, describes the Black Beasts remains as being a headless corpse like it always is. The same situation applies to Blood-Scythe, his jacket, the character of Bloodedge and Mitsuyoshi changing his name to Jubei. In CP, Rachel sends Ragna back to Phase 0, "the beginning of everything," for the Time For Decision, which set the events of the Dark War in stone. The unsung hero Bloodedge has always been CP Ragna, Ragna only knows Jubei as Jubei because Mitsuyoshi changed his name in honor of the friend who called him Jubei and Ragna only receives his jacket and Blood-Scythe because CP Ragna gives it to Celica in Phase 0 (and for added confusion seems to have taken the sword and jacket from the CT Ragna that became the Black Beast while he was inside it back with him to explain why he still has them in CP's true end and CF). The essence of the chicken and the egg question is that there is no answer. While the true answer is probably "something else laid an egg and what hatched was a result of evolution that led to what we know as a chicken," that doesn't apply here when we have time travel and events that are unchangeable even by the Master Unit. The XBlaze timeline has been explicitly said to not lead into BlazBlue. The two timelines in Lost: Memories are the Es's timeline and Wabash's timeline. Since Watashi is Nine, her timeline is the canon BlazBlue one. The Wadatsumi Incident is the cause of the split between the two (it didn't happen in the main timeline) so the events that lead to the Dark War have no relation to it. The fact that Es changed her timeline without effecting Watashi's is proof they are not the same and they are kept separate by the World of the Tsukuyomi (which we know still exists since the World of the Tsukuyomi is also the Phantom Field, which is Nine's stage and confirms the barrier is still active. On a completely different note (man this post is way too long), what do you all think will happen with Es's arcade mode on the console version? She almost certainly will have one but will she have one for all of the Acts, only some of them, only Act 3, or will she be unique and have one after the others due to her later appearance?
Luminos564 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Ogiga, that only assumes this new Black Beast...thing is even made from Ragna or anything related to him. For all we know the one seen in the image could be Arakune evolving like a Pokemon except instead of becoming cuddly and easily locked up inside a metal sphere, it's a giant fawking doom being that would give Ridley Scott naughty ideas. Also, inconsistencies in design is nothing new to this series. Just look at the portraits from CT, CS, CP and now. There's multiple artists to this series so the Black Beast going through redesigns shouldn't be all that surprising. CT was a long-ass time ago too and artists tend to evolve or change up their style as the years go by. Or some get fired/leave and are replaced by others, which is just as likely. That said, I do like how you took the time to find every image of it there is. Feels most nostalgic. 42 minutes ago, Ogiga99 said: On a completely different note (man this post is way too long), what do you all think will happen with Es's arcade mode on the console version? She almost certainly will have one but will she have one for all of the Acts, only some of them, only Act 3, or will she be unique and have one after the others due to her later appearance? I think the last one is most likely. I doubt ASW is feeling generous and drawing up more images for all 3 acts in her arcade. Then there's added dialogue and voice work so the costs still need to be kept in-line. But I don't think giving her a unique arcade run that ties into all 3 acts prior is out of the question. Especially if Zedar's idea that she is guiding Ragna (when he's an amnesiac) is on the money.
Ogiga99 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, Luminos564 said: Ogiga, that only assumes this new Black Beast...thing is even made from Ragna or anything related to him. For all we know the one seen in the image could be Arakune evolving like a Pokemon except instead of becoming cuddly and easily locked up inside a metal sphere, it's a giant fawking doom being that would give Ridley Scott naughty ideas. Also, inconsistencies in design is nothing new to this series. Just look at the portraits from CT, CS, CP and now. There's multiple artists to this series so the Black Beast going through redesigns shouldn't be all that surprising. CT was a long-ass time ago too and artists tend to evolve or change up their style as the years go by. Or some get fired/leave and are replaced by others, which is just as likely. That said, I do like how you took the time to find every image of it there is. Feels most nostalgic. I think the last one is most likely. I doubt ASW is feeling generous and drawing up more images for all 3 acts in her arcade. Then there's added dialogue and voice work so the costs still need to be kept in-line. But I don't think giving her a unique arcade run that ties into all 3 acts prior is out of the question. Especially if Zedar's idea that she is guiding Ragna (when he's an amnesiac) is on the money. Looks like Zedar answered my question about her Arcade mode. I know that we have no idea about this Black Beast's origins. The fact that it appear in what I assume to be Es's stage and her story centering on Ragna suggests that it's not related to him. However that raises questions. It's not that CT was so long ago, it's that the current design seems to have gone back to the CT design (mainly the parallelogram eyes) that interests me. I guess the best answer for now all the differences is that the Black Beast changes appearance as it sort of "evolves." In its very early stages the Black Beast has parallelogram eyes as seen in CT and That Which is Inherited (which show the Black Beast immediately after its creation). After it completes its smelting the eyes become circular (my guess is this is what it looked like when it first emerged in 2099). Finally, the sleeker design with many eyes is its "true form" at full power (the Black Beast in XBlaze was a true God of Calamity that has lived in the Boundary for who knows how long and the image from Phase Shift is from Phase Shift 2, post-Bloodedge stalling, and according to Terumi it had become bigger since it first appeared). The design differences in the Black Beast are a lot more drastic than the minor changes in character artwork (like the metal plates on Ragna's jacket) so I would like to believe this is intentional.
Toxin45 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 So basically Ragna is the focus for the entire story mode and it's the only one wow.
1337 H@x0r Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Well... 1 hour ago, Ogiga99 said: You're missing the essence of the paradox, there is no beginning because Ragna and Nu came back before they even existed. Chronological time doesn't matter because the Boundary connects all of time and space. The Black Beast and Wheel of Fortune Jin emerged from the Cauldron on December 31, 2099, whereas the timeloop began on January 1, 2100, making both the Black Beast fought in the Dark War and the version of Jin to become Hakumen are constants and essentially fact. This isn't the only way paradox's exist. Ragna's Azure Grimoire has no origin because it is made from the Black Beast's remains. Ragna's right arm is actually his own decapitated corpse. The thing that threatens to transform him into a Black Beast has always been his own body. We know that it's always been like this because the Endless Waltz short story, which takes place in Phase 0 and is the only time Rachel drank his blood, describes the Black Beasts remains as being a headless corpse like it always is. The same situation applies to Blood-Scythe, his jacket, the character of Bloodedge and Mitsuyoshi changing his name to Jubei. In CP, Rachel sends Ragna back to Phase 0, "the beginning of everything," for the Time For Decision, which set the events of the Dark War in stone. The unsung hero Bloodedge has always been CP Ragna, Ragna only knows Jubei as Jubei because Mitsuyoshi changed his name in honor of the friend who called him Jubei and Ragna only receives his jacket and Blood-Scythe because CP Ragna gives it to Celica in Phase 0 (and for added confusion seems to have taken the sword and jacket from the CT Ragna that became the Black Beast while he was inside it back with him to explain why he still has them in CP's true end and CF). The essence of the chicken and the egg question is that there is no answer. While the true answer is probably "something else laid an egg and what hatched was a result of evolution that led to what we know as a chicken," that doesn't apply here when we have time travel and events that are unchangeable even by the Master Unit. The XBlaze timeline has been explicitly said to not lead into BlazBlue. The two timelines in Lost: Memories are the Es's timeline and Wabash's timeline. Since Watashi is Nine, her timeline is the canon BlazBlue one. The Wadatsumi Incident is the cause of the split between the two (it didn't happen in the main timeline) so the events that lead to the Dark War have no relation to it. The fact that Es changed her timeline without effecting Watashi's is proof they are not the same and they are kept separate by the World of the Tsukuyomi (which we know still exists since the World of the Tsukuyomi is also the Phantom Field, which is Nine's stage and confirms the barrier is still active. On a completely different note (man this post is way too long), what do you all think will happen with Es's arcade mode on the console version? She almost certainly will have one but will she have one for all of the Acts, only some of them, only Act 3, or will she be unique and have one after the others due to her later appearance? The current timelines all derivate from the CT paradox but said paradox must have had timelines preceeding it, I say this because phenomenon intervention works normally through marginal returns in which history is retwritten word by word and point by point until it looks completely differently than it originally was. My point is that what we currently know as the Dark War was originally another occurence which got rewritten to the point things like Ragna and Nu (sometimes Mu) becoming the Black Beast and Jin becoming Hakumen became the norm and were completely intrinsic to the history observed as true by Amaterasu. XB doesn't lead to BB, I never said it did. What I said is that XB leads into another doomsday scenario which is simply unwinnable by it's protagonists, thus it forces Amaterasu to ultimately abort all timelines coming from the Wadatsumi incident and adopt a new canon which happens to be the BB world. It doesn't matter that Es left a Phantom Field in place to block Amaterasu's view, the very fact that Nine is rulling that place as an omnicidal revenant markedly points out that it failed to stop the "girl's storybook" from ending in tragedy and Es regaining Azure eyes and guarding said book while her stage is an apocalyptic wasteland only strengthens the thesis that X Blaze got utterly wrecked with Es remaining as it's sole survivor. There is a 150 year period between X Blaze's set date and Blazblue's present date, this means that another 150 year of alternate history could have transpired in the XB timeline after the events of Lost Memories and we don't know any of it. Naoto is Ragna's replacement in Amaterasu's canon timeline but they both exist at the same time because OPFD did not decide yet wheter to stop observing the BB world and let it disappear or not. Same logic goes to Es world, she placed a massive block called Tsukuyomi World to stop Amaterasu's interference meaning that her timeline and the major incident leading to it fell under partial observation and a simultaneous state of existence and non-existence. I doubt that the Tsukuyomi World can completely curb Amaterasu's power and I doubt that it can extend to the entire Continuum Shift of possibilities emanating from XB's timeline, it's more likely that some future incident in that timeline forced Es to become a guardian but it has not been revealed yet. Also, there is a massive trade-off in removing Amaterasu from observing your dimension, while you are no longer subjected to her definition of the ideal timeline you also have no more continues to go on if things go south.
Luminos564 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 28 minutes ago, Ogiga99 said: I know that we have no idea about this Black Beast's origins. The fact that it appear in what I assume to be Es's stage and her story centering on Ragna suggests that it's not related to him. However that raises questions. It's not that CT was so long ago, it's that the current design seems to have gone back to the CT design (mainly the parallelogram eyes) that interests me. I guess the best answer for now all the differences is that the Black Beast changes appearance as it sort of "evolves." In its very early stages the Black Beast has parallelogram eyes as seen in CT and That Which is Inherited (which show the Black Beast immediately after its creation). After it completes its smelting the eyes become circular (my guess is this is what it looked like when it first emerged in 2099). Finally, the sleeker design with many eyes is its "true form" at full power (the Black Beast in XBlaze was a true God of Calamity that has lived in the Boundary for who knows how long and the image from Phase Shift is from Phase Shift 2, post-Bloodedge stalling, and according to Terumi it had become bigger since it first appeared). The design differences in the Black Beast are a lot more drastic than the minor changes in character artwork (like the metal plates on Ragna's jacket) so I would like to believe this is intentional. I can live with that. If the Black Beast evolves and provided Ragna's recent appearance as Izanami's "beast" is an indicator, then it would make sense that the thing would have a shifting appearance over the course of the story. Though, it brings the question of how far can it evolve to? I can see now why Azrael would want to throw down with it. I mean, an opponent that can lay waste to the world and that evolves over time, building in power? That must be his dream come true.
Ogiga99 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Luminos564 said: I can live with that. If the Black Beast evolves and provided Ragna's recent appearance as Izanami's "beast" is an indicator, then it would make sense that the thing would have a shifting appearance over the course of the story. Though, it brings the question of how far can it evolve to? I can see now why Azrael would want to throw down with it. I mean, an opponent that can lay waste to the world and that evolves over time, building in power? That must be his dream come true. My guess is the version we see in XBlaze is it's complete form since that version had been living inside the Boundary for god knows how long and would certainly be impossibly powerful. Perhaps "matures" would be a better world than "evolves" since the XBlaze and powered up Phase Shift versions look very similar, suggesting that this form (which looks the most stable and solid) is as far as it goes.
BlazGearRegalia Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ogiga99 said: My guess is the version we see in XBlaze is it's complete form since that version had been living inside the Boundary for god knows how long and would certainly be impossibly powerful. Perhaps "matures" would be a better world than "evolves" since the XBlaze and powered up Phase Shift versions look very similar, suggesting that this form (which looks the most stable and solid) is as far as it goes. If that thing becomes a boss in the story [which may or may not happen, although it would make a neat challenge], it'll be quite the living hell for everyone. And I'm not referring to us players, I'm referring to the characters! I can already see them cowering in fear [in their minds] while they bombard the beast with their attacks.
Volt Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, BlazGearRegalia said: If that thing becomes a boss in the story [which may or may not happen, although it would make a neat challenge], it'll be quite the living hell for everyone. And I'm not referring to us players, I'm referring to the characters! I can already see them cowering in fear [in their minds] while they bombard the beast with their attacks. I just hope Azrael doesn't get a 10:0 matchup like he has against Take-Mikazuchi. Anyway, we shouldn't discuss possible boss characters.
BlazGearRegalia Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, Volt said: I just hope Azrael doesn't get a 10:0 matchup like he has against Take-Mikazuchi. Anyway, we shouldn't discuss possible boss characters. Haha, Azrael is a tough one, but no worries, I just had to get that out of my system. On a different note, I wonder what Jubei's gonna do in the story. Ever since his surprise appearance during Act 3, it's been kind of bugging me about what he'll do to help. Then again, knowing Mori, I shouldn't expect much out of that cat... And speaking of characters who do not show up often, is Saya even still alive at this point? She's been missing since before Calamity Trigger, and we have not heard from her EVER. Just a bunch of clones and when we thought we finally got her, oh wait, Izanami is just a drive... Ragna's torment of finding little sister Saya continues...
Ogiga99 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, BlazGearRegalia said: Haha, Azrael is a tough one, but no worries, I just had to get that out of my system. On a different note, I wonder what Jubei's gonna do in the story. Ever since his surprise appearance during Act 3, it's been kind of bugging me about what he'll do to help. Then again, knowing Mori, I shouldn't expect much out of that cat... And speaking of characters who do not show up often, is Saya even still alive at this point? She's been missing since before Calamity Trigger, and we have not heard from her EVER. Just a bunch of clones and when we thought we finally got her, oh wait, Izanami is just a drive... Ragna's torment of finding little sister Saya continues... Remember, Izanami is possessing Saya's body. Izanami herself is Amaterasu's Drive but she is still using Saya's body as a vessel. We learned in her Act 3 mode that Saya has the ability to infinitely amplify seithr and was modified by Relius. She's still there.
Volt Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, BlazGearRegalia said: Haha, Azrael is a tough one, but no worries, I just had to get that out of my system. On a different note, I wonder what Jubei's gonna do in the story. Ever since his surprise appearance during Act 3, it's been kind of bugging me about what he'll do to help. Then again, knowing Mori, I shouldn't expect much out of that cat... And speaking of characters who do not show up often, is Saya even still alive at this point? She's been missing since before Calamity Trigger, and we have not heard from her EVER. Just a bunch of clones and when we thought we finally got her, oh wait, Izanami is just a drive... Ragna's torment of finding little sister Saya continues... Not really. Izanami is a drive, yes, but her vessel? Definitely Saya. Or as her brother says (activating OD) SAYAAAAAA. Edit: Dang, ninjas everywhere.
Toxin45 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, BlazGearRegalia said: Haha, Azrael is a tough one, but no worries, I just had to get that out of my system. On a different note, I wonder what Jubei's gonna do in the story. Ever since his surprise appearance during Act 3, it's been kind of bugging me about what he'll do to help. Then again, knowing Mori, I shouldn't expect much out of that cat... And speaking of characters who do not show up often, is Saya even still alive at this point? She's been missing since before Calamity Trigger, and we have not heard from her EVER. Just a bunch of clones and when we thought we finally got her, oh wait, Izanami is just a drive... Ragna's torment of finding little sister Saya continues... Well Izanami is using Saya's body.
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