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Well... She is alive then, good! She must be pissed off as hell that Carl became a jerkass like their father. Also, where are the mods to clean this mess?

Well... I know that Ada is inside Nirvana, however, someone here said that her soul was destroyed which would mean that she died while Nirvana remained just a husk.

Well... Another question, did Ada Clover die for real? I've read here that her soul was destroyed fighting Ignis but in the end Nirvana is shown following Carl, did Ragna's reset brought her back or something?

Well... Dang, the booty was just an illusion! As for Nu, her ending is really bittersweet, Ragna couldn't save her completely from her own madness and now she is bond to a bed until she finds a new purpose in life. At least Lambdachops got out the best way possible. Two out of the three shown Murakumos ended sane and happy in Mori's insane shitstorm of desperation, I'd call that victory.

Well... One thing which wasn't left clean for me is what happened with Trinity in the arcade when compared to the story. I have been told that Platinum build a new body for Trinity using Muchorin but in the story it seemed as if her ghost took control of Susanoo to cut down Terumi and Ragna. What the hell exactly happened between those two event, if they happened at all?

Well... I took me two free bans to find out this thread existed, hope a lightning bolt does me justice! XD Naoto shows up Ragna's tatoo when powered up and now that it has been confirmed that Prime Field Devices are able to mate, I couldn't help but think that maybe Naoto's and Saya's mother was a PFD.

Well... Naoto did say that the Hakumen of his universe was a woman called justice, it wouldn't be far fetched to consider his Hakumen a time displaced Tsubaki.

Well... The story comes full circle: -Ragna was Bloodedge, the unsung hero who stopped the Black Beast for an entire year only to be forgotten by all but the Six Heroes. -Ragna was the Black Beast itself, whose origins were unknown to all but the ones who could observes through the loops of time. -Ragna was the Grim Reaper, an enemy who the world feared but whose true motives and emotions were unknown to all but a select few. -Ragna then became the heart of Amaterasu and saved the world, only to be forgotten by all but the current Observer and the Guardian of the Azure. Ragna's entire story has been him shaping History without ever being acknowleged for it so the logical conclusion to that path of obscurity was him ceasing to exist but bringing about the greatest possible benefit in return.

Well... So Mu is not stuck inside Amaterasu, at least that leaves Hazama's target of HUG.EXE available for future games. EDIT: Speaking of HUG.EXE, Nu looked pretty miserable now that Ragna choose to become one with Amaterasu instead of her, I heard she took a heavy beating from Hakumen that left her in that state though. Maybe if Alpha-01 shows up Nu can recover and get over Ragna by joining the other team!

Well... So Hazama without Terumi is basically like a reverse Nu, he has a messed up head because of what he was created for and because of those who used him thus he wants to become one with his other half, only that he is a body without a heart to feel instead of a heart who wants a body to release it's pent up emotions. On that subject, didn't Mu and Izanami fused with Noel to recreate Saya then ejected the parts which didn't contain Saya as the "new" Noel we see in the ending? Is nun Noel the 12th Prime Field Device which Hazama is after or did Mu become part of the Saya we see with Ragna staying inside the Master Unit? Where the hell have all the Lux Sanctus Murakumo noxes have gone to anyway?

Well... Wasn't Rachel's scene that last one shown? How do we know it's on the same time period as the rest of the ending? I see three possibilities: 1- Valkenhein is pouring tea to a Rachel who sleeps and the scene with Ragna's grave takes place in the future after she awakes. 2- Rachel pays her homages to Ragna right before going to sleep. 3- Maybe she doesn't need to sleep because of the reasons you pointed.

Well... Or maybe that scene takes place a 100 years after the ending of CF, who knows.

Well... Trinity is the Sakura of BB, she is hopelessly in love with an imaginary version of a psychopath whose real self betrays and ditches her to a miserable death without a second thought. It's still up for debate if Sasuke really married Sakura or if he had a child with someone else for eugenic shenanigans and just put her under a Genjustu to ward of suspicion until he goes full Susanoo on the idiots who trust him. Anyhow, at least Trinity got to cut down the bastard who corrupted Kazuma/Hazama which is something Sakura can never claim to redeem her character.

Well... Aerith is probably rolling on her grave over this but villains gotta pop out of nowhere to keep the plot moving.

Well... Given your avatar I guess you've just received a lot of tentacle related fanfic material!

Well... ES have her memories? I could swear I read in this very thread that she didn't. Also, didn't you say that the Phantom Field prevented Amaterasu from casting Phenomenom Intervention on ES timeline? Furthermore, this body of ES seems to be her original one and not her human one so she must have been dragged from a point in the Continuum Shift of possibilities where she wasn't human yet. As for ES to be following the Will of the Azure, what the heck does Azure even wants? It doesn't appear to be concerned with any of the existing characters and I don't think there is anything remotely capable of destroying it to justify the need for a Guardian and that Guardian to be ES on top of everything. It's a freaking Greater God, it could create a Black Beast or another Azrael if it wanted something to protect it, using ES for sheet n' gigs sounds like an excuse plot to shove her into the game. Nah, I'd say that ES dimension bargained with Azure to stop the BB Embryo from breaking the Phantom Field and Azure asked for the moe swordswoman in return.

Well... OH HELL YES!!! EDIT: Aham, since we need to write some relevant stuff or mods will delete our posts because we should use the like button instead of shouting PRAISE, I'd like to add that Susanoo Terumi is an abomination from the same weird place as the Black Beast. EDIT 2: WE TOTALLY NEED A PLUSHIE OF THAT THING!

Well... My theory regarding Es is that since the Blazblue timeline created it's own embryo and because the boundary is a place where time and space doesn't mean jackstuff, her existence was dragged from the exact period of time when her memories were lost before she created the Phantom Field and her new existence as a human utilizing XBlaze's embryo. I guess that because BB's embryo equals or dwarves XB's embryo in terms of power, the current events of CF threaten to overcome and undone the dimensional buffer ES created for her timelines and given what happened to Naoto's timeline that would be a very bad thing. Hence, whatever holds ES universe together in place of the Master Unit realized it was under siege and manifested ES as a guardian of the Azure in the hopes it would convince the latter to keep ES wishes intact instead of letting BB's embryo tear her universe to pieces like it happened with Naoto's. Azure, unlike Amaterasu, it's a primordial force of nature which the entire BB multiverse is based upon. If push comes to shove, it's decision on whose wishes and timelines exist and which ones are mere possibilities or even less than that outclasses everyone else's. I don't think that Azure is worried about itself or cares about anyone's feelings or emotions, however, even with an alien blue and orange morality it grants the wishes of whoever has the strongest will attached to it. Amaterasu is more or less a superconduit which makes it's wielder the closest one to Azure and the most likely one whose wishes the latter would consider to be real, however, it's not absolute as someone with an immensely powerful object like an embryo or another superconduit observer machine like Takamagahara can create timelines and universes which Azure considers real in their own right. Under the view that realities in the BB multiverse are more "existing" and less "imaginary" depending on how close and strongwilled someone is in relation to Azure, then ES presence in this brawl is more or less her will, which created and sustained her universe with an embryo, manifesting as close as possible to Azure in order to keep her phantom field and timelines from getting plown over by Amaterasu and BB's embryo. Anyhow, I probably repeated myself here regarding ES but on a whole different subject I am starting to think that the Power of Order is another deity with equal power to Azure and a reality creator on it's own right. Users of PoO can seemingly give manipulators of the Azure the middle finger when properly motivated and given it's role as an anti-body of realities against foreign agents it makes sense that PoO acts as a counter-agent dispersed amongst all souls to give them independence from the concentrated influence of the Azure from which they originate, go back to or whatever.

Well... Since Nine will collect all Nox Nyctores and pump them dry into TM, can we assume that Nirvana is doomed and Carl will go full Relius because Ada will die for good? In a sense, Ada dying could be considered a merciful end since Makoto's CS bad end indicates she suffered horribly when being turned into a doll and to top that of having to watch her beloved little brother slip down the same road as their father is just bullshit no one deserves. What scares me is that since Nirvana and Ignis will probably be destroyed by the end of CF then Carl will probably kidnap, break and dollify some poor replacement with Litchi and Makoto being most likely candidates. This universe never gives a break to anyone does it?

Well... I don't know, you are forgetting that Nine was a self taught magical genius and that we don't know squat about how Relius came to be such an incredibly talented science magister. In my view Carl only started tapping into his inherent abilities as of CF, like Kokonoe he wasn't utilizing the mad potential inherited from his father simply because he rejected everything about him and not because he can't measure up to Relius. It's worth notice that CF is the end of Ragna's story but not of the Blazblue franchise and that much of the character development displayed in it will likely prepare the setting for a sequel taking place after a long time skip. Carl is barely in his early teens, compared to the centuries old Relius who honed his skills to the point of creating artificial Sankishin (if his declaration that Ignis can replace Amaterasu is any indication) he is certainly a joke but give that kid some fifty plus years of mad science research and nobody will be laughing at him. I take that Relius will probably get killed by someone else in CF though. If there is any indication, the next Blazblue game will be another Xanatos Speed game but this time between Kokonoe, Carl, Amane, Hazama and whoever takes Izanami's place as evil goddess.

Well... I disagree with this statement, as Hakumen put it, Kokonoe has every inch of power one could hope from such strong parents, she just choose to apply herself to science rather than develop as a fighter or magician. As a matter of fact, Kokonoe biggest flaw is that she never saw her legacy as something positive, she never tried to find any strenght in her magical or physical prowess (which requires intense body training) because she rejected both Nine and Juubei either out pain or spite. She instead developed her skills in an area which neither of her parents had experience with and as a result she fights with her scientific inventions rather than the raw potential she inherited from her parents. We must not forget that despite barely studying magic, Kokonoe is able to perform two of her mother's strongest spells (meteor and infinite gravity) even if the effort tires her out quickly and that comparing her to the ressurected Nine is unfair because the latter has been enchanced by the Crimson Grimmoire which grants a massive boost in magic to it's wielder. Powerful as Nine was in life, she would never be competing with Izanami and Terumi for the villain throne if Relius hadn't upgraded her significantly upon revival. In my view, Kokonoe will only embrace her heritage and master her parents' fighting styles after she makes amends with both Nine and Juubei but the results would only be shown in a future Blazblue installment.

Well... Damn! Being Amaterasu is suffering... Seriously fuck Terumi and Nine, that poor woman had it seriously worse than the two of you whinny "can't handle the truth" bitches. As for who that new crest belongs to, my guess is a 20% chance of Juubei, he is the only known remaining character who wields a BFG and isn't playable.

Well... You guys do realize I wasn't talking seriously about the four of them being lesbians right? I just love crackshipping femslash! Anyhow, Take-Mikazuchi and Black Susanoo look creepy as fuck and put me in the Carl makes his daddy proud bandwagon.

Well... Noel, Tsubaki, Makoto and now Mai, lesbian squad is best squad!

Well... Beware of Relius and his tendencies of turning boobie ladies into dolls.