BlazBlue Setting Material Collection Information

[SolxBaiken]

According to the character relationship chart, Jubei and Nine are listed as being married (夫婦), with Kokonoe as their daughter (娘). Jubei, Nine, Sister, and Kokonoe are also grouped in a block labeled as the Jubei family (獣兵衛一家).

Guess I should probably get around to translating that...

Oh that's very interesting...

Man Suzaku you're so amazing, where would we be without you? And you need to make me an avatar like your's but with Jin n.n

Also anyone see Rachel's birthday art?

I swear Ragna is in all of her art, like in the setting material books both Ragna and Rachel's pic have them together, makes me wonder how deep there relationship is? After all it is implied they have some kind of history pre-game and by the sound of it the knew each other for quite some time...

[selitham]

Oh that's very interesting...

Man Suzaku you're so amazing, where would we be without you? And you need to make me an avatar like your's but with Jin n.n

Also anyone see Rachel's birthday art? I was wondering just how deep her relationship with Ragna is...

It's more or less a crooked brother/sister relationship, Rachel acting out a childlike mentality as well as being a "princess" with Ragna finding her annoying but being her loyal bitch.

Simply:

[Sorael]

It's more or less a crooked brother/sister relationship, Rachel acting out a childlike mentality as well as being a "princess" with Ragna finding her annoying but being her loyal bitch.

Simply:

XD sounds about right. However it can definitely venture into crack couple county...especially for people like me too who's hoping that it will be more. I don't need anymore fantard attacks

[Re4L14124c]

well, Rachel IS naked in that second halloween picture...

[SolxBaiken]

It's more or less a crooked brother/sister relationship, Rachel acting out a childlike mentality as well as being a "princess" with Ragna finding her annoying but being her loyal bitch.

Simply:

Hmm I don't think I can agree to that statement completely...if there is some kind of deep relationship between them (beyond being acquaintances and needing each other's power) it is definitely borderline romantic.

From their interactions I view them as the "Reluctant Knight" and the "Aloof Princess". Not once have I seen Rachel act "childish" towards Ragna, in fact she seems to relish the fact she was born more sophisticated and higher up than Ragna and even enjoys brushing it in his face. Ragna tries to act like he can't stand Rachel being around but she is one of the few people who actually knows him for him, not as a SS-class criminal but as a normal guy.

Also I don't know how canon they are since they occurred within the loops, but they have both shown grave concern for the other at least once, so if push came to shove I do believe there could possibly be something (I demand my name be changed to RagnaxRachel!)

And as I stated before they share ALOT of image space together...and at the very least there relationship goes beyond a professional standard.

[Sorael]

well, Rachel IS naked in that second halloween picture...

wth? now that you mention it, I don't a silhouette of anything under that cape other than her body...and I don't see a line under Nago's paws insinuating a collar....

*fantards* Edit: the only person thats fantarding is me, didn't mean that to anyone else XD

[mAc Chaos]

I dunno, it seems way darker colored than her arms and other parts. Look at her arm holding the marker compared to her torso.

[Sorael]

I dunno, it seems way darker colored than her arms and other parts. Look at her arm holding the marker compared to her torso.

she is being covered up by a cape, and the light on the parts that are revealed are pretty bright so I would think that the shadows in return are going to be dark like that.

[SolxBaiken]

wth? now that you mention it, I don't a silhouette of anything under that cape other than her body...and I don't see a line under Nago's paws insinuating a collar....

*fantards*

I dunno, it seems way darker colored than her arms and other parts. Look at her arm holding the marker compared to her torso.

*sighs* And my post gets ignored for a debate if Rachel is hentai or not =_=

Also with my previous statement I want to set the records straight, I'm not trying to be a "fantard" I'm just seeing if the pieces Arc left fit together, honestly I believe this to be one of the few truly romantic implied relationships

[Sorael]

*sighs* And my post gets ignored for a debate if Rachel is hentai or not =_=

Also with my previous statement I want to set the records straight, I'm not trying to be a "fantard" I'm just seeing if the pieces Arc left fit together, honestly I believe this to be one of the few truly romantic implied relationships

haha no, I read it, i'm just really excited right now XD;

I have to agree with what you said though, it seems like a lot of official art has them together in specific. And most other pictures depict the siblings, rachel and Noel fan service, single characters etc but you don't see something like what there are doing between hetero

[selitham]

Hmm I don't think I can agree to that statement completely...if there is some kind of deep relationship between them (beyond being acquaintances and needing each other's power) it is definitely borderline romantic.

From their interactions I view them as the "Reluctant Knight" and the "Aloof Princess". Not once have I seen Rachel act "childish" towards Ragna, in fact she seems to relish the fact she was born more sophisticated and higher up than Ragna and even enjoys brushing it in his face. Ragna tries to act like he can't stand Rachel being around but she is one of the few people who actually knows him for him, not as a SS-class criminal but as a normal guy.

Also I don't know how canon they are since they occurred within the loops, but they have both shown grave concern for the other at least once, so if push came to shove I do believe there could possibly be something (I demand my name be changed to RagnaxRachel!)

And as I stated before they share ALOT of image space together...and at the very least there relationship goes beyond a professional standard.

I was talking about those pictures

Rachel has care for Ragna, but not in a way it's like two couples, considering she's way older than him, she was forced to use her vampiric powers on him when he was on the verge of death, giving her great guilt as it was the first and last time she used her vampire powers. Normally, she treats him like crap and he returns the same feelings, in truth, she sees he has potential and believes in him. Overall their relationship is nothing more than mutual irritation with one believing in the other, Ragna's too harsh to admit things however.

[Lou_Cypher]

I was talking about those pictures

Rachel has care for Ragna, but not in a way it's like two couples, considering she's way older than him, she was forced to use her vampiric powers on him when he was on the verge of death, giving her great guilt as it was the first and last time she used her vampire powers. Normally, she treats him like crap and he returns the same feelings, in truth, she sees he has potential and believes in him. Overall their relationship is nothing more than mutual irritation with one believing in the other, Ragna's too harsh to admit things however.

I highly doubt age would prove too much of an obstacle in works of fiction. (Anyone remember Arcueid and Shiki?)

Them seemingly treating each other badly is a very 'tsundere-ish' attitude is it not?

Slap, slap, kiss really. At least that's what I think. They have their soft spots for each other after all in one storyline...

[selitham]

Either way Ragna doesn't look like he's "wit it" with the supernatural. In fact he's going to be a loveless virgin for life as long as he has that bounty on his head.

[Lou_Cypher]

Or Rachel takes him away from the problems of the world and into the Millenium Castle Alucard. Eh...maybe not, but still.

[Hustle Man 77]

So Rachel and Jubei are on Ragna's side even tho they know he can end up being the Beast. Why is that? Wouldn't getting rid of him eliminate that possibility?

[Re4L14124c]

That's like saying because I know there's a possibility of this poor kid who just lost his arm and family will turn into a monster if he LOSES to Nu, I might as well kill him now to get the effort over with. Remember also that the three kids were taken care of by Nine's sister, they must have something special about them.

[Sorael]

So Rachel and Jubei are on Ragna's side even tho they know he can end up being the Beast. Why is that? Wouldn't getting rid of him eliminate that possibility?

A motto of the game is pretty much fighting destiny. If they killed Ragna well there wouldn't be blazblue

[mAc Chaos]

From Rachel's point of view, they get infinite attempts to get it "right," so it's not like she can't let Ragna live, and if they fail, just try again next time.

[Sephi_hatu]

So Rachel and Jubei are on Ragna's side even tho they know he can end up being the Beast. Why is that? Wouldn't getting rid of him eliminate that possibility?

Technically, killing Ragna wouldn't do squat because his arm, not him, is the thing that becomes the black beast.

[pktazn]

From Rachel's point of view, they get infinite attempts to get it "right," so it's not like she can't let Ragna live, and if they fail, just try again next time.

Until ya know... CS where the time loop is broken.

Edit: Wooow I totally took your post the wrong way. We're still talking about CT (which makes sense since we don't really know what's going on in CS). Sorry!

Well... I'm think that since the Black Beast is already dead when Jubei trains Ragna so it's possible Jubei didn't know Ragna would become the Black Beast, unless it was stated somewhere and I didn't see it, and Rachel already saved his life and maybe didn't realize he was part of the Black Beast until time started looping? It makes sense in a way until you hit the time loops but I'm thinking of it from the way someone, probably Suzaku, explained the loops. I'd look for it but I don't even remember which thread it was in

[Lou_Cypher]

Doesn't Rachel get a regular amount of blood from Ragna every time the church incident repeats itself? Why would Rachel want that loop stopped, hehe.

[pktazn]

I agree why would she want it stopped lol. However, I thought that it was only a certain part of time that was looped. History doesn't change, just the events leading up to it which just happens to be during the loop. ... I know what I'm trying to say (in my head) but I can't seem to explain it haha.

[Suzaku]

The loop is a set hundred year period beginning on AD2099/12/31 and ending on AD2199/12/31, when Ragna and Nu fall into the cauldron. The laws of probability result in miniscule changes occuring within each loop, and eventually, enough of these changes build up that end result is different and the loop is broken.

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=466266&postcount=112

Rachel isn't really supposed to have a direct hand in changing history, so she probably doesn't want to make any big gestures. Most of the other characters don't know that there's a loop, so they generally encounter the same situations and make the same decisions in every loop, apart from slight changes in each iteration.

[Sorael]

The loop is a set hundred year period beginning on AD2099/12/31 and ending on AD2199/12/31, when Ragna and Nu fall into the cauldron. The laws of probability result in miniscule changes occuring within each loop, and eventually, enough of these changes build up that end result is different and the loop is broken.

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=466266&postcount=112

Rachel isn't really supposed to have a direct hand in changing history, so she probably doesn't want to make any big gestures. Most of the other characters don't know that there's a loop, so they generally encounter the same situations and make the same decisions in every loop, apart from slight changes in each iteration.

Classy

but it still brings me back to why Hakumen isn't aware of Terumi yet and his involvement. Oh well.

[Suzaku]

Because Hakumen literally just got back from the Edge, thought Terumi was still sealed up, and unless I'm forgetting, never met Hazama during the game.