Lord Knight Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 Is 6C staffless special cancellable on block? I sure hope so. Litchi looks so buff right now.
KD Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 Goddamn that Momoichi dude was really rocking with her. Hey Diveman, it would be cool if you could add final release info to the first post but if you can't, I''d like for a final changes thread. I was about to mention the zetaboards loketests threads, but then I remembered their info wasn't as in depth. - Kokushi Musou/13 orphans damage nerfed, full hit only does 1100 By the way you wouldn't happen to know when they changed this change as well? In the final version it looks to do around early 2Kish instead of just 1100.
Zenmetsu Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 You should delete old info and just change the topic into a CS info thread since loketest info doesn't matter anymore.
geist Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 Is 6C staffless special cancellable on block? I sure hope so. Litchi looks so buff right now. not sure yet...but i'm almost positive i saw it break a guard primer and so does 13 orphans (i think) and great wheel (definitely...it was 2 in loctest...might just be 1 now) even with only 6C I think litchi's guard break potential is really high...considering it was almost impossible in CT
Guardian Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 Goddamn that Momoichi dude was really rocking with her. He really was, her corner lockdown is QUITE ridiculous. Anyone know when they'll have any reasonable frame data up?
Diveman Posted November 24, 2009 Author Posted November 24, 2009 lets try doing a little summary here before updating the first post. So far we know that: - New drive move 6D [m] a 2 hit attack, moves her forward. The first hit is special cancelable and removes a GP on block. 2nd hit cannot be canceled. Dangerous to throw out randomly. - New drive move 4D [m] a flying kick (sort of) thats an overhead, can be special canceled on hit and block (I think) - Both hits of Itsuu B combo now. (In CT the first needed to be CH) - Staff Litchi can link 2A and 5A to 5B on hit - Ippatsu A is the same as in CT. Ippatsu B is falling Hatsu and Ippatsu B is falling Chun (This one breaks a GP on block) - Ittsu stance can be canceled with D. - Staff set after Tsubame, IttsuB and IttsuA is 5D style as opposed to 2D. - Ippatsu Combos are way easier to do. Breaks 3k damage and leads to knockdown. - IttsuC combo can be done off 3C (not max range) - 6Kote switches style to 5D set. 4Kote switches style to 2D set - Daisharin cannot be comboed into. Activation start up is too long. May have lost start-up invincibility frames as well. The falling hit removes a GP - 3C [m] is special cancelable. Can be canceled even on block. Its not jump cancelable anymore (??) - Shishin is now a 6 hit move as opposed to 4. Its animation is quite different now - Staffless Litchi can now combo 5B>2A. - 6C[m]>IttsuA confirmed. - 6A[m] causes ground bounce on hit, can be followed with 5B[m] or 2C[m] into combo - 6B [m] is jump cancelable on hit (maybe on block) - After midscreen Haku, chun combo, litchi can follow with 5B or 2C - Ryuuisou removes a GP on block - Kokushi musou (13 orphans) removes 1 GP on block (just 1 even if you block the entire super) - Both hits of 6C can be canceled on hit (and on block as well???) - Staffless Litchi can cancel j.C into j.B If there´s something Im missing/wrong just tell me
Jthan Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 - Ippatsu Combos are way easier to do. Breaks 3k damage and leads to knockdown. whats the combo?
Phrekwenci Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 If there´s something Im missing/wrong just tell me 6A[m]>2C[m]
Diveman Posted November 24, 2009 Author Posted November 24, 2009 6A[m]>2C[m] I already posted it - 6C[m]>IttsuA confirmed. - 6A[m] causes ground bounce on hit, can be followed with 5B[m] or 2C[m] into combo - 6B [m] is jump cancelable on hit (maybe on block)
Horokei Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 tsubame&6C[e] have less untechable frames. ?
Bakedninja Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 random combo i observed midscreen jC[ch], 2C, Itsuu A, 236C(TK?), dash, B, 6C[1hit] Kote4, jB, jC, jD the last jD missed because they were in the corner and able to tech.. So i'm thinking it would be better to end it with 6C[1hit] Kote4 jB, djB, djC, 236B, 236C, Riichi
Jthan Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 jc[ch] 5b itsuuA 6c 2b 2c jb dj jb jc 236b 236c does about 3600 damage. staffless litchi can cancel jc into jb
Lord Knight Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 CRAZY hype CH combo, started in corner at 3:55 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8916695 6B[M](CH) 5B itsuuA 6Kote Haku Hatsu RiichiA A B(does falling hatsu) 6C(1) 4Kote 5C jBCD airdash jC dash 6C(2) itsuuC for 3.8K Presumably here he could have just ended with jC but he was being greedy I guess.
STenSatsu Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 jc[ch] 5b itsuuA 6c 2b 2c jb dj jb jc 236b 236c does about 3600 damage. staffless litchi can cancel jc into jb Does doing j.b->j.c cancel them getting smashed to the ground? And can you do j.b->j.c->j.b?
Jthan Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Does doing j.b->j.c cancel them getting smashed to the ground? And can you do j.b->j.c->j.b? depends on the character/situation i havent figured it out yet, sometimes you can do jb jc jb DJ jb jc jb rekkas..
Jthan Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 CRAZY hype CH combo, started in corner at 3:55 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8916695 6B[M](CH) 5B itsuuA 6Kote Haku Hatsu RiichiA A B(does falling hatsu) 6C(1) 4Kote 5C jBCD airdash jC dash 6C(2) itsuuC for 3.8K Presumably here he could have just ended with jC but he was being greedy I guess. Could you hit A on the stick twice such that they fall into the corner afterwards? I suppose you could also do this midscreen......litchi is too good
Phrekwenci Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 CRAZY hype CH combo, started in corner at 3:55 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8916695 6B[M](CH) 5B itsuuA 6Kote Haku Hatsu RiichiA A B(does falling hatsu) 6C(1) 4Kote 5C jBCD airdash jC dash 6C(2) itsuuC for 3.8K Presumably here he could have just ended with jC but he was being greedy I guess. Similar combo at 8:26 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYd53iJrvo4 (since I can't watch anything on nico). EDIT: Should have watched the second round, similar combo with an ending at 8:56 (itsuuC, jC 6Kote falling jC, 3C in the corner). Beautiful.
geist Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 EDIT: Should have watched the second round, similar combo with an ending at 8:56 (itsuuC, jC 6Kote falling jC, 3C in the corner). Beautiful. that combo is.....beautiful the video quality is crap, but it seems like the combo ends at about 4400 damage which is fairly @_@ edit: need confirmation but itsuu seems to be a LOT faster
STenSatsu Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 Surprised I don't see anyone using 4d in vids. I guess her staff poke game is pretty ridiculous with mist cancel though. Also, looks like 6d might be ground untechable on otg?
Lord Knight Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 Momoichi was using 4D quite a bit, there is quite a bit of blockstun and hitsun on the move.
Jthan Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 Probably because it's a much more difficult combo than 6A combos
STenSatsu Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Hmm, which color is Momoichi? Or does he not have a specific color? (Can't read japanese.)
KD Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Hmm, which color is Momoichi? Or does he not have a specific color? (Can't read japanese.) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8874488 He is the pink Litchi fighting Hazama in this vid http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8874843 Fights Noel here and Ragna after the Rag vs Tao match http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8879495 Momoichi fighting HDD's Ragna 3 matches http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8879753 Momoichi going at HDD's Ragna some more(3rd round of 1st match here is pretty lol even a comment to go along with it too haha) He pretty much picks the pink Litchi though I guess he forgot to for a bit in the last vid. His name is ももいち in hiragana. EDIT: Oh and to Diveman, 4D can be canceled on block. I saw it canceled into kote on block quite a few times. Still wondering about 6C canceling on block though.
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