bjholmes2 Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 For discussion of the Hazama vs. Tsubaki matchup.
IkeTakeda Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 This matchup is a quite troublesome at a point. Hazama need to carefully zone and approach with caution. Chaining toward recklessly is death since she can Anti-air with 2c and then pursue with her pressure game. If she midair charge, go for x2 6D~A to a Jakou. You can counter their charge aerial attack with 6D. Also you will be able to instant block to Jayoku doing her block string even when she charge cancel. Thus which case fear to even charge cancel at all. Watch out for her reset with her 22D. If you getting hit, make sure you hold 7 to avoid being reset. But beware of getting hit out of it since they will probally reset it with a grab or a aerial grab. Chain while she charge and try to trick her from doing her anti air. Then mix it up by approaching without chain and avoid doing 214D~A since they can DP out of it. Bait their wake up DP or prepare for a one to add damage.
Phones01 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 you can also instead of relying on ressenga for the overhead mix up use 6A or of course dash 236C into Bnb for some mixup options.
IkeTakeda Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 you can also instead of relying on ressenga for the overhead mix up use 6A or of course dash 236C into Bnb for some mixup options. You can't rely ressenga, 6A, and dashing 236C. All of them can be punish by a simple poke or DP. You just force to play the standoff game.
Phones01 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 oh i see i only put that up cuz not many people expect 236C since its not used alot ya know? but i see what ya mean
IkeTakeda Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 But you can't rely it to gain dmg. They can still jab, backdash, or jump on the startup of the grab command. And if it whiff till it be consider as a counter still there some ending lag.
UZI4YOU Posted August 1, 2010 Posted August 1, 2010 seems like almost anything hazama has can get DPed so in this match I try and stick to 2A/5A into 5B combos or a hit confirm chain.
Keo-bas Posted August 14, 2010 Posted August 14, 2010 I was recently demolished by my relatives tsubaki. The thing about her is even though her damage output isnt great, but her rushdown seems nice. He simply ignore her gauge and pressure to to no end. Im really started to think tsubaki concept is underrated. Though I will say i'm just bad hazama as well.
JinSaotome Posted August 15, 2010 Posted August 15, 2010 This matchup is insanely easy for Hazama. She has literally no safe way to approach without Charge meter (which she can only safely get if she's knocked you down, lol) If you guys honestly respect her DP, you guys are doing it wrong, that shit is terrible, horribly easy to bait and trades with absolutely anything EDIT: And also leads to a fucking whopping 1300 damage if she doesn't trade. 6A, 236C, and Rassenga will hit if you can actually force them to respect your offense (again, not hard, get those hit confirmed combos and then mashmashmash that 5B) If she gets in on you, its still no biggy because her rush down is terrible and you can IB Jayoku a fair number of her pressure options.
Fireryda Posted August 15, 2010 Posted August 15, 2010 I respect the DP because it's fucking annoying trading every bloody time. but trading with Jayoku then recovering to follow up with combo is lulz.
JinSaotome Posted August 15, 2010 Posted August 15, 2010 Don't even worry, her trade does absolutely no damage and if she's mashing it a lot, just block and Disco Kick into death. Our local Tsubaki literally stopped using it because its so awful. It might be annoying to trade, for sure, but more often than not, it'll give the Tsubaki player more of a headache than it's giving you. :P
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