Dacidbro Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Gonna kick these off the ground, no time to keep waiting Will update to look more professional later, when there's more info to throw around and I have time to waste with the cosmetics. Part A So she only has one move that does damage? 3C. This is her only damage move. If she connects it within the first two or so hits of a combo, she can get roughly 4-5k damage. Certainly not too shabby.. HOWEVER. To hit it, she only has her incredibly obvious gun-twirl overhead (Block high then low) and non-overheads, so all you have to do is block it and punish (Don't use 5A/5B, they whiff), because she can't hit confirm it. That's all you have to do to diffuse her damage game, and past that, this matchup is easy. Her AA sucks, and you'll outprioritize everything she does except 5D. If she starts using 5D too much, feint an approach and block, then block the incredibly simple drive mixup until she reloads and punish. More on this later, but really, an easy match. Use pressure smart and you should win easy, more often than not.
LunaKage Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Most of what is said above is true, regarding an easy win and all, however there are some things to look out for: The 3C thing is correct, but the damage output is a bit misleading, Noel will only get 5k meterless if 3C was the starter, anything used before that is looking to get more in the ballpark of 3.8k depending on the starter, and that is only if one move was used before 3C, such as her overhead, or her 5C(crouching or counter) or her 5B(Counter), even two moves used before 3C will prorate her damage to the point where it feels like a simple little scratch. Another thing about this matchup, is that Bang is the second easiest character to haida loop(right under Tager) due to his horizontal hitbox, so any Noel worth their salt will consistently get 4.8k-5k meterless off of a naked 3C, while those may be rare in other matchups, Bang is one of our common victims of 3C reversal, due to some of his favorite moves being vulnerable to low profiles, such as 5A, 5B, and his 2D as well, just to name a few. My apologies for reviving this thread, especially since CS2 is right around the corner, but a few of these points will still apply anyways.
Dacidbro Posted May 5, 2011 Author Posted May 5, 2011 Those were.. it's like you just paraphrased what I wrote over a year ago and said you were correcting me Other than that, the only thing mentioned is that if your opponent is not skilled enough to Haida all characters, he probably still will be able to on Bang...
LunaKage Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Those were.. it's like you just paraphrased what I wrote over a year ago and said you were correcting me Other than that, the only thing mentioned is that if your opponent is not skilled enough to Haida all characters, he probably still will be able to on Bang... Nah there was more in there, besides, you said you would elaborate later, and never did =w=
Dacidbro Posted May 5, 2011 Author Posted May 5, 2011 There really wasn't anything more in there Luna :[ And I know, I never elaborated. No one ever cared enough to post lol
LunaKage Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 There really wasn't anything more in there Luna :[ And I know, I never elaborated. No one ever cared enough to post lol Yeah, sounds about right, I guess you could say I went a bit more into detail about the things you mentioned, either way, no harm done, because there was nothing here to derail in the first place.
Dacidbro Posted May 5, 2011 Author Posted May 5, 2011 No harm, I'm just recovering from the confusion :]
LunaKage Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 No harm, I'm just recovering from the confusion :] lol feel free to ask about the matchup come CS2, you guys may actually need some help now.
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