[CS1] Mu-12 General Discussion Thread

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love you.

[MisoSowee]

Much love Aginor! :3

[Arcade Fire87]

One of the things I was worried about that discouraged me from trying MU was that her 4B seemed REALLY punishable on block and on the slow side. Playing her, it seems like a really good overhead unless IB'd.

She seems so much more creative than Lambda, kinda feel restricted and stiff with my main : /

[MisoSowee]

I think you mean her 6b. Anyways her 6b when i was testing is safe on block without IB, just disadvantageous it seems. On IB Jin could get 2a off, but only barely.

She is pretty creative, but don't be fooled her mixup is not as good as it seems :[

She has pretty good guard crush potential though, similar to lamda.

[Arcade Fire87]

I think you mean her 6b. Anyways her 6b when i was testing is safe on block without IB, just disadvantageous it seems. On IB Jin could get 2a off, but only barely.

She is pretty creative, but don't be fooled her mixup is not as good as it seems :[

She has pretty good guard crush potential though, similar to lamda.

I swear I read frame data that made 6B sound risky to abuse. I don't know, the 6B doesn't do massive damage alone, but with the knockdown and oki set up it seems like it could set up for some creative pressure. Messed with her in challenge mode a little, she's a bit awkward.

[MisoSowee]

Well maybe I just didn't test extensively enough. I'm pretty sure I was spot-on with the 2a's though.

But the oki off 6b isn't good because you only get 63214c off of it (I don't like it at least). Or RC it for 4k flat but :|

Join us arcadee. Joooinn uss. But then Shynkz wins his bet. Maybe you shouldn't do it :3

[Arcade Fire87]

You're probably right about the 6B, I know close to nothing about MU.

Shynkz isn't someone I care about, he just uses Dustloop as twitter : /

I got stuck on her challenge that involved the corner into 2B>super. Didn't know how to go about buffering the super quick enough from 2b and got sad

[MisoSowee]

As you do the 632146c motion press b during the 321 part. Might be harder on d-pad though. (analog stick ftw)

But in all reality you might not use it that much. I just maximize my corner combos and they don't allow 2b - super. Not only that but using omohikane forgoes j.2c oki :[

[Seifuuku]

i just do a 360 starting from 6, lol. works well since i play on analog

[DC]

In before AF starts crying about Mus corner loop

[MisoSowee]

Her corner loop is easy as pie, no worries shynkz.

He'll whine about 214d 66a cancels for sure though. They're hellish.

[Seifuuku]

Her corner loop is easy as pie, no worries shynkz.

He'll whine about 214d 66a cancels for sure though. They're hellish.

it isn't that hard.. just condition yourself to the dash, then condition yourself to the hit. turn tech off til you always dash after 214d, then when you feel confident turn it back on and keep trying to land the combo. at most you'll have muscle memory problems where you keep doing a different combo

dash 2b is still a bitch though. thank god i can use the excuse "5c 6c ender is better oki"

[MisoSowee]

I dunno dash 2b is a lot easier for me then 214d 66a :|

And you wouldn't be wrong with the oki :P

[DC]

I'm sure this has been discussed before but wtf is up with Mu's DP? Is it really frame 1 invinci? Every time I try to IB >> DP I get CH for some reason, but it looks more like 6c is coming out. I know the timing for IB DP, but it seems like her DP won't come out in small 1-2 frame gaps.

[Seifuuku]

it should be. ragna's 5a into 5a is 4 frames hit stun on ib, with 5 frame start up.. and ib dp works there.

it might be important to note that if you 623c a spark bolt/drive from tager you will be magnetized, and that trying to IB DP 1-2 frame gaps in netplay can be considered suicide, if you are doing that (i don't think so)

[Sadeyo]

Honestly I given mu-12 challenges a whirl moments ago and it was quite enjoyable. It beats zoning when I happened to start as Lambda instead of Ragna in CS. Her j*5b is sexy but the hitbox is quite pathetic. Another pet peeve is not having a great control of her very own drive. The distance, detonation, and firing varies so greatly at times. Maybe another few more hours of testing her out I'll grow onto her. Anyone else suffered this issue besides myself?

[PartyEagle]

i also had a problem with her drive at first, would always mess up on the basic 5d 6d 236d oki and end up getting 5d 2[d] instead. thats what i get for trying to use sf4's buffering system lol. but after awhile it should get easyer, shes an odd character to get used to since she is a mix of pressure and spacing/mild zoning ,but you get used to it. im finding her the most enjoyable outta all the characters right now.

[MisoSowee]

I'll agree. When I switched to her from Haku everything was 10x more awesome.

Anywhoooo

assuming that IB is -5 frames of recovery... (I'm not entirely certain)

6b frame data is -3 to -5 on block. Haku's 5a cannot punish without IB, but with IB both 5a and 2a will hit.

Also 6b - 5a is not safe and will be poked out of for mu.

Yay kinda safe overhead! :D

Also 6b - 63214c is a frame trap and will outdo 5 frame pokes. I hope I'm not just doing it wrong though.

[Kurushii]

I'll agree. When I switched to her from Haku everything was 10x more awesome.

<.<; I wonder about you Misa-chan. Haku is so much more better than her.

[MisoSowee]

Lol a better character maybe, but too ez-mode for me :[

[Aginor]

I remember testing this but can't recall if Bang can punish 6b 63214c with 5a if he IB'd the 6b. I'm pretty sure that's the case. Like probably if you see your opponent doing that, you'd have to 6b 623c. Not something I'd like to do but as long as Mu doesn't get punished right?

[MisoSowee]

Hey is 623c special cancellable? With a stein around you could cancel to 214d if the 623c pushed 'em out far enough. They wouldn't be able to poke out.

As for 6b 62314c I remember it being safe, but I don't remember specifically. Might have to test it out.

[Seifuuku]

I remember testing this but can't recall if Bang can punish 6b 63214c with 5a if he IB'd the 6b. I'm pretty sure that's the case. Like probably if you see your opponent doing that, you'd have to 6b 623c. Not something I'd like to do but as long as Mu doesn't get punished right?

yeah, 5a should punish it, along with ragna's 5b and bang's 5b i think.

[A.4.Awesome]

I feel absolutely ridiculous... I just had my ass sliced off, sizzled, and stuffed up my remaining ass by another mu-12 player in seconds. And she wasnt lazer spamming. I know im completely new, but that was just retarded. I feel so torn right now between doing nothing or going back online.

[MisoSowee]

Go into training mode and learn some setups man! And continue going online! You can't learn how to fight other people without fighting other people. Don't be discouraged xD