ChrisX Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 I suppose it should stop. I'm sorry that I brought this whole morality chain discussion because of my inability to decide whether it's right or not to root for Litchi after what she did.
FormerlyUnknown Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 right or not. she did it. they all did it. now lets find something else to speculate about o3o. like if we'll ever see what lotte carmine looked like.
harmless kitten Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 right or not. she did it. they all did it. now lets find something else to speculate about o3o. like if we'll ever see what lotte carmine looked like. I picture him as prettier than Jin, with black hair and dark eyes. And glasses, because everyone at Sector Seven wears glasses. Watch Arcsys never show what he looks like. Same with Hakumen's face, even if we actually know what he looks like under the mask! @ChrisX: Root for her anyway. I root for many horrible characters (shit, Jin is my favorite). Just because you like a character and want to see more of them does not necessarily mean you condone their actions.
FoxyAreku Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Litchi isn't evil, just selfish when it comes to saving Arakune. I'll leave it at that. I would like her to succeed, but realistically she probably won't. :/ Moving on...w/e
ChrisX Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 I'm more picturing him to have a face of "Irresistable Arakune", taken to a more 'realistic' approach. @harmless kitten & Foxy: Hm, I should be able to do it since I still liked Jin and mained him when he's still full on psycho NII-SAAAAAN mode in CT. Plus with other example of Fate/stay night, she MAY be considered good. So... yeah. Let's hope I'm still able to finish the CS True Story and look at her with a straight face, and listen to her saying all those nice things without thinking that it's a lie. Moving on. (Off topic, no need to reply on this one) In other news, I NO LONGER NEED TO USE PROXY SITES TO ACCESS THIS SITE! Yay.
Irikarul Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Proof please. If Carl's word is anything to go by (he's never lied about anything so far, IIRC), she was a very caring older sister. Even as Nirvana, she seems hell-bent on protecting him from harm. I just hope they don't go the Saya route with her.
harmless kitten Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 If Carl's word is anything to go by (he's never lied about anything so far, IIRC), she was a very caring older sister. Even as Nirvana, she seems hell-bent on protecting him from harm. I just hope they don't go the Saya route with her. You are assuming that Carl is completely unbiased in this matter. Like as not, she was very caring, to him at least, but we know little else about Ada that didn't come from Carl's mouth, and I'm hesitant to trust his stance. And Nirvana sometimes randomly attacks people that pose no threat to Carl (Noel, for one). re: Saya: in bb, all sisters are ebil
Shadow Draygon Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Carl or Ada has a pretty sick sense of humor. All of her jokes that Carl tells are morbid.
Naki Feralkin Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Also don't forget that Carl is slowly losing his own mind to Nirvana as well due to the strains of the Nox, which also biases him quite a bit. For all we know, his own memories of his sister are decaying along with what morality she might have once had. Also, Nirvana could have just attacked Noel as a defensive mechanism for what Carl saw to be Nu in the previous game. He had a flashback of Nirvana being destroyed from his bad ending, and we don't know what Nirvana is allowed to know. Perhaps she just saw Noel as Mu-11, and was like WHOAMG PROTECT CARL.
makeamidget Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 You know. When I'm bored at work I like to peruse this here thread... And it's really not so much a CS Speculation/Theory thread, it's more of a: "WHY ALL THE LITCHI HATE?" -> "SHE'S AWESOME! I LOVE HER!" -> "SHE'S A BAD/GOOD PERSON" -> "Discussing other characters bad/goodness" -> "Someone bringing up litchi all throughout" ->"WHY ALL THE LITCHI HATE!" -> ETC. (I mean I guess you could always argue that you are trying to speculate on why all the Litchi hate) How about this... "Why all the Boobie Lady love?!" I can't stand that Boobie Lady. >< Even less so now, since the BIGGEST THING THAT APPEARS TO HAVE HAPPENED IS HER DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU KNEW SHE WOULD DO, according to over 60% of this thread(At least) Now then, what ever happened to seeing Tao's face in CS. Also Kokonoe is the shit.
FormerlyUnknown Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 pshh we're over litchi now. new topic! how overpowered is bang going to be when his nox activates and he's able to shut off everyone else nox? o3o
smooshman Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 new topic! how overpowered is bang going to be when his nox activates and he's able to shut off everyones drive? o3o sorry terumi got there first, and Jin cock blocked his nox, so he couldn't even use his sword.... still had 5.5-4.5 advantage over tsubaki though.... but the Ragna fight is just rape.
FormerlyUnknown Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 sort of my point. now imaging going through that against BANG edit: and to put it in perspective jin: no ice (we've delt with this) noel: no bullets carl: no nirvana (we've delt with this) hakumen: no sword platinum: dunno lambda: no swords hazama: no snakes
pktazn Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Perhaps she just saw Noel as Mu-11, and was like WHOAMG PROTECT CARL. :MU:Mu is 12 :LA:Lambda is 11 I'm being picky because I can
smooshman Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 sort of my point. now imaging going through that against BANG edit: and to put it in perspective jin: no ice (we've delt with this) you also lost your sword......... that was bull. noel doesn't even use bullets.
FormerlyUnknown Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 you also lost your sword......... that was bull. noel doesn't even use bullets. what i ment is you get no haida, no drive sequence, no lolprojectile, no revolver blast, or anything that bolverk generates
pktazn Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Yukianesa is made up of ice, so in turn you also lost your ice powers. ... Just throwing that out there.
p-kun Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Bang are not supposed to be allowed to use Nox. That Nox is heirloom of Lord Tenjou, so only his son are allowed to use it, if we go by traditional Japanese/Ikaruga value. But then, there's possibility that Bang is Lord Tenjou's son (he just never knows it). And without Bolverk, Noel is just a useless crybaby, maybe around Linhua's level of threat. Without her connection with boundary, Litchi cannot remote control her staff. That Nox is not going to work gameplay wise.
FormerlyUnknown Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 which is what scares me, platinum hinted that his nox is going to play a really big role in the third game and if they try anything to make it into the gameplay then i'm out...
harmless kitten Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Without her connection with boundary, Litchi cannot remote control her staff. Not quite, we don't know how Matenbou works. Might be a Boundary connection thing, it might just be a special property of the staff itself. Mori did say it was made from what we would call a "sacred tree." Likely, Litchi would just get weaker. That Nox is heirloom of Lord Tenjou, so only his son are allowed to use it, if we go by traditional Japanese/Ikaruga value. Wait wut where was the Nox belonging to Tenjou mentioned? Did I miss something?
FormerlyUnknown Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Wait wut where was the Nox belonging to Tenjou mentioned? Did I miss something? and if it belongs to his lord then why is he ALWAYS wearing it? seems to me he's already breaking whatever code you're talking about. edit: it's said that his NAIL is a momento from his master...is that what you mean?
p-kun Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 I always thought that he was holding it for safe keeping until the day he can give it to Tenjou's son. For some reason, I always assume that the one to use that Nox will be Tenjou's son (whether he turns out to be Bang or other char) We know that the Nox was owned by Tenjou. But we never know how Bang got to get the Nox. If it's said that it's a memento, then maybe Tenjou gave it to him, or maybe Bang swiped it after Tenjou died before it got pilfered by NOL or got buried in the ruin. I think you are all right, I just assume too far.
Shadow Draygon Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 you also lost your sword......... that was bull. noel doesn't even use bullets.
Black Onslaught Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 The Nox was never stated as belonging to Tenjou despite it being called " Rettenjou ". The heirloom Bang received from Tenjou was that 55 inch nail that he carries on his back. The power of Rettenjou is to sever ties to the Boundary, it was "rumored" to be able to destroy other Nox Nyctores. And Smoosh-bro, if I recall, Bolverk shoots bullets of concentrated seither than can pierce space. Also, Bang's Nox activating will more or less just have a story effect, so yeah.
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