KeyBlaz Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 (Just incase anyone missed it.) New BB getting released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_O9VIUmmiQ 3 new characters. (No Kokonoe or Jubei yet.) Amane is really cool, I want to play him. Ragna is using his scythe in some parts. New Hazama Distortion + EX Flash Kick maybe? <3 New Tsubaki Distortion + evil color, new Litchi Distortion, Noel has a completely new (cute) outfit, Bullet looks a lot like Ragna. Looks really good. Amane and Tsubaki look good. I like how Amane turns people into children. Yay for new Platinum Item :D They say...we can start team tournies at 6 probably. Since I'm doing onsite registration, it probably won't start till 7. You could still make it? Yay I will do my best to get there asap then.
PureYeti Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) so is this another revision with story continuation or sequel? Can people come check this out? Yell in chat stream once you connect twitch.tv/transientfaith Over now. Thanks PureYeti! I didn't see you on stream It was taken at Adam's apartment lol. Well if you were there then I missed it because I paused the stream and I was too tired to watch it. They say...we can start team tournies at 6 probably. Since I'm doing onsite registration, it probably won't start till 7. You could still make it? Ah if this is true then I will have to work around my school schedule to come at this time Edited August 5, 2012 by PureYeti
Chickzama Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) Though that Hazama dialogue at the end is fucking delicious~ This...so much. <3 I 'effin love my main...so much. *sigh* <3 (Edit: *Insert Blazen "Shitty Vampire meme" here.) so is this another revision with story continuation or sequel? I'd guess it's continuing from CSEX and they're in Ikaruga. Amane turns people into kids? Huh? Rewatching vid... Edited August 5, 2012 by Chickzama
TransientFaith Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8_O9VIUmmiQ#t=85s WHOA hold the phone...I can has moves that combo off 5c without rapid cancel now oh and bluebeat combos in trailers are...hype too? I guess? Edited August 5, 2012 by TransientFaith
cookie` Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 where the hell is mu/lambda until I see inclusion of those characters I have 0 interest in picking this up new versions are being announced/released almost too fast
Chickzama Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Go to Hazama's dialogue at the end. There's a clip of Mu there somewhere. P.S. Since when did Arc throw away characters? I'm sure they'll be in there.
Edge Reaper Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 where the hell is mu/lambda until I see inclusion of those characters I have 0 interest in picking this up new versions are being announced/released almost too fast Noel's still around, so it's likely Mu will show up somehow. Also, Giant Sword Thing at the end = New Robo Sister/ Nu-13 Remake
tomato of doom Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Welp. I'm pumped for some P4A :D (after getting kinda bored with Blazblue and taking a long break from fighting games, I'm basically back where I started skill-wise, but WHO CARES) Is anything going on this coming weekend by any chance? I might be able to swing by if anything is going on Tuesday, but I'll have to work till 4:30. (I am also in Dallas proper now, near UTD, until the end of the month so I can make it to meetups and things easily :D)
Pfhor Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 If you go by the order of alphabet that BB is following the next robot will be Kappa. Stream monster's dream. BTW what's going on for Persona 4, I heard that game is good. We should meetup this weekend for it.
MooseJaw Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 If you go by the order of alphabet that BB is following the next robot will be Kappa. Stream monster's dream. BTW what's going on for Persona 4, I heard that game is good. We should meetup this weekend for it. yeah i would be down for meetup this weekend too If either of you ain't doing anything from 11am-6pm Tuesday send me a pm.
oldboy Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 I'll be off from work at 1-2pm on Tuesday if people wanna start getting that p4a in. We could always try and meet up in Denton, Pfhor, if no one else is setting anything up. Sure there will be some sort of meetup this weekend.
Mightfo Posted August 6, 2012 Author Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Jet is probably hosting saturday, he'll confirm tomorrow. P4A! P4A! P4A! Which reminds me, I wanted to post about something rather important. I know saying "Fuck Chie" is funny and all but shit like that doesnt make you a better player or understand how to fight a character better. Many things are simply a matter of adapting or removing old habits. Keep in mind that sometimes your chara wont haev a good answer. Avoid the situation. Just like how you get excited when your character has some amazing strength, you have to deal with the fact that other charas have them too. That is the nature of a diverse and interesting cast, of asymmetrical balance. Understand your character. Understand their character. Lab shit. Dont bitch and whine unless you know all your options and know the situation shouldn't be how it seems to be. I've seen people bitch that their character has no "perfect" options against Tager gadget finger oki without 100 meter. Dont be that guy. You're always going to have to face tough situations, the game has heterogeneous characters, and everything is situational. Stop viewing characters as "Ohh that character is so dumb I hate them." While there are legitimately dumb things, often people simply dont prepare themselves to cope with a character's strengths and just get salty and use perceptions of tier lists as confirmation bias. Dont whine unless you KNOW something is bullshit(and not just "ohh this situation is hard" but "this situation shouldnt be hard". Just because you dont like that something leads into a ton of damage, doesnt mean it is wrong/dumb/bad, there's a difference between your perception of fair and what is actually fair), learn about the chara, see how they approach the situation and what they have to give to get in that situation in the first place. You're going to be startled by things at first. Yuu's oki, Chie's mixup, Elizabeth's damage, Yosuke's air low, Mitsuru's 5a, Teddie's 5b and j.c, Yukiko's absolute control of the screen, etc etc. Dont settle with "This pisses me off!" Replace annoyance with curiousity, understand the situations that give you trouble and counter autopiloting instead of autopiloting into your own loss. Sometimes, what you want/think isnt the best way to win things, you will not always pick the logical way to approach a problem. Be hungry. Learn and try what you have to to win. I would really like to see us go in hard on Persona and have consistent, healthy competition. This is not a chance to squander. Have fun, lab shit, take the game "seriously", dont rest on salt and autopiloting, attend events and meetups(not just ones that are posted about here if you can!), and go in hard for ANIMMEEEEE or whatever the fuck you like about these games. ...also while I am more immediately hype about Persona, new BB changes look interesting(EX moves for all! more details below in my response to yeti if you are unaware), and I LOOOOVEEE the 3 new charas. :3 They all pander to me and look fucking amazing ajgdlkgjlsgdjl they are my favorite in all of BB aside from litchi and nine. so is this another revision with story continuation or sequel? "Revision" and "sequel" are both rather arbitrarily separated, honestly. It looks like a bigger jump than BBCT->BBCS1. Everyone has EX moves, guard primer/bars are gone, more new moves for charas than in BBCS as well as move alterations, burst system changed, everyone has an overdrive thing which is an install sort of thing(kinda like battle fantasia) for everybody based on a meter separate from super meter, there's some sort of new guard break with 25% meter thing for everyone, IIRC this is the final story continuation, and they actually redrew shit(as if they needed to, lol). Unless BB is rebooted in 2020 or something I doubt you'll really see anything bigger. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?14675-BBCP-System-Changes-Movelist-Translations-and-Loketest-Information where the hell is mu/lambda until I see inclusion of those characters I have 0 interest in picking this up new versions are being announced/released almost too fast I agree that new versions have been added too fast. I think BBCSE was a waste, as nice as changed to charas like Tager were. I really doubt there wont be a new mu/lambda. There's a hints about murakumos in the trailer, they're probably just being redrawn. This isnt old KOF; they cant just throw out these expensive sprite+gameplay creations on a whim, shit has too much value. BTW what's going on for Persona 4, I heard that game is good. We should meetup this weekend for it. yeah i would be down for meetup this weekend too AWW YEAH PFHOR AND WOOF COMIN SATURDAY FOR PERSONA Ro will come too. And others of course. Gonna post up on facebook and shit once jet confirms. I'll be off from work at 1-2pm on Tuesday if people wanna start getting that p4a in. We could always try and meet up in Denton, Pfhor, if no one else is setting anything up. Sure there will be some sort of meetup this weekend. TUESDAY IS LABBING DAY SON oh and yeah i am officially back in texas now :toot::toot::toot: Edited August 6, 2012 by Mightfo
Pfhor Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Fuckchie, I can bitch AND learn the matchup at the same time. Get on my level. Also this week is awful for me to do anything but the weekend would be cool. Edited August 6, 2012 by Pfhor
Scottie Yosh Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Fuckchie, I can bitch AND learn the matchup at the same time. Get on my level. Have to go with Pfhor on this one. :p
Edge Reaper Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Fuckchie, I can bitch AND learn the matchup at the same time. Get on my level. Pretty much this. But then again as long as she doesn't hit hooker cop levels of stupidity, I should be good.
Mightfo Posted August 6, 2012 Author Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Fuckchie, I can bitch AND learn the matchup at the same time. I know people can bitch and still adapt. But I still think bitching(not to be confused with complaining about legit dumb things like valk vs tager) is pretty much useless and braindead and just damages things. It makes people take shit less seriously(much against what you want if you want people to go in on an anime game hard for once, pfhor), it confuses newcomers like sloppy uses of the word "broken", 95% of the time it is braindead, it usually doesnt acknowledge how people's own charas have annoying strengths as well and the nature of heterogeneous game balance, and it contributes to negative perceptions about lesser played FGs and general acidity. Bitching about charas because they have different strengths than your own is the modern "Throws are cheap!" I dont think it even helps people let off steam, since it is very self-fueling, just leads to more complaining about something that may just be something to learn, not something that is just stupid like tager vs valk. People often assume there's nothing to lab when they hear repeated bitching about something. Edited August 6, 2012 by Mightfo
TransientFaith Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 You gotta be SBO champion tier to say fuckchie and back it up apparently
Scottie Yosh Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 not something that is just stupid like tager vs valk. Do I have Mightfo approval to bitch about this now? Real talk, Might spittin' that truth in that post!
KeyBlaz Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 I know people can bitch and still adapt. But I still think bitching(not to be confused with complaining about legit dumb things like valk vs tager) is pretty much useless and braindead and just damages things. It makes people take shit less seriously(much against what you want if you want people to go in on an anime game hard for once, pfhor), it confuses newcomers like sloppy uses of the word "broken", 95% of the time it is braindead, it usually doesnt acknowledge how people's own charas have annoying strengths as well and the nature of heterogeneous game balance, and it contributes to negative perceptions about lesser played FGs and general acidity. Bitching about charas because they have different strengths than your own is the modern "Throws are cheap!" I dont think it even helps people let off steam, since it is very self-fueling, just leads to more complaining about something that may just be something to learn, not something that is just stupid like tager vs valk. People often assume there's nothing to lab when they hear repeated bitching about something. ^ This (Mightfo drops the mic)
Mightfo Posted August 6, 2012 Author Posted August 6, 2012 The problem isnt just Oh, some people whine about stuff. The problem is that often a player's reaction to running into trouble isnt "Hm, what can I do about that?" but "God damn fucking <x>, that <move/chara> is so fucking stupid." whether or not the trouble is their own playstyle or pacing, the character they're facing, etc. People are often more hungry for whining than they are for adapting and improving. There's dumb herd mentality shit in this, too. A bunch of people see that someone gets bitched about, and they jump on board and start seeing things through that lens. Confirmation bias and shit plays into this, too; whether or not a chara is complained about depends on whether people have seen that attitude repeatedly towards that chara, regardless of whoever's strength. You gotta be SBO champion tier to say fuckchie and back it up apparently No, you just gotta know your shit, and not just follow what a bunch of people said on twitter. I'm not discounting that Chie or whoever may take less effort and may have too strong mixup/pressure based off other tools. I am not saying that characters/tools cannot be dumb or badly designed as long as there's no bad matchups created by them. I am just saying to look before you leap, test out and know and observe lots of shit in relation to something before claiming that thing is messed up or braindead. That is seriously all that I am asking, that people take shit seriously and be hungry to beat something, not to just immediately go "AWWW FUCK ITS BROKE" and ram their head against the wall the same exact way over and over again. People dont even think about when they time their attacks, they just take their initial attempts as a solid example of how their tools can deal with the other set, regardless of how it could have been different. But if you know your shit and something is unfair, sure! Complain about it! There's dumb shit in even matchups! Just be more hungry to learn, test, adapt and win than to have kneejerk herd complaints.
Lich Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Uhhhm. Mightfo knows his shit I gueesssss, because thats exactly how you get better... but I'm pretty sure the Fuck Chie thing is just a running gag thats pretty funny to say. Look, Someone even made a gif. So... I'm not sure why you gotta rain on peoples parade. :V
Mightfo Posted August 6, 2012 Author Posted August 6, 2012 that gif owns, no debate there gifs that loop smoothly are the best
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