[CS1] Ragna vs Carl

[Yggjrasil]

Rather lazy with the match-up data aren't we? >.> ok, the little bastard runs, hides behind is retarded evil sister, and resets me to death. What should I be doing in this match-up? discuss.

[Afrikaan]

I'd really like to know this too. Mr Oso's Carl was killing me the other day and I was wondering how to approach this

[Yggjrasil]

I've fought against ZONG_one, and I've only been able to beat him once, and that was by timeout and luck. I have absolutely no idea how to approach Carl and what to do against Nirvana.

[garzel91]

I fought one all he did was counter and combo and those combos are deadly now. You can't run through the puppet you can't damage it in some attacks it does.....i don't get it and the puppet regen is fast so he can keep doing it all day.

[Yuai367]

The only thing i can really think of is never be in between "Caruru" and Nirvana. Other than that, trying to keep Carl away from his doll is another temporary solution since if he's got enough time he can just summon her back to his position ;_; I generally have problems with getting close in towards Carl because i'm either hit by brio or fuoco and then instantly set-up into a combo

[ZONG_one]

When I played with Pozerwolf, he'd burst as soon as he was in sandwich.

So did Hsien.

I would say this match is more about momentum than anything.

Get it early, and don't lose it.

All you need is two combos, and you win.

[Zeromus_X]

Now that there's no dumb loop that takes out all of your life for making one mistake, I find this matchup much less stressful, actually kind of fun.

Be patient at first and don't rush in...don't jump predictably or you can get nailed by his iad fastfall grab. You can poke Ada with jump cancellable moves and react to what Carl does. So you can do something like 3C, jump away, or 5A xn, 6A if he jumps towards you, jump away if not. Or 5A, 3C if he attacks from the ground, etc. Of course he can bait this with Ada's moves with super armor, you can still stop her by gatling into more moves and possibly hit Carl if he's close enough.

If you get sandwiched, definitely Burst/Counter Assault/ID rapid out of there asap (it looks funny to ID Ada really quick then fly away). Heck if your ID CHs Carl you can go into combo and practically gain the heat from the rapid back. I think I saw Spirit Juice do something like ID CH Rapid, dash 2C 5D double BE combo for around 3k. His j2C isn't an overhead anymore so it's a lot easier to block his stuff but his mixup is still ...j2C is still a great crossup, pay attention to his distance from you on JC-able moves.

When you get in on him, try not to let him go...burn up RCs to get past his guard if you must, since you'll take out a ton of his health or at least get him to burst. He only has like 4 primers so a using guard breaking moves isn't out of the question either (2D Rapid mixup or Dead Spike rapid mixup are nice).

If he tries to Fueco on your wakeup to get you to guard, you can roll in the other direction. I imagine a better Carl would try to use something to stop you from rolling though. Even if you guard it you can mash back to IB the hits and gain some extra heat, could be enough to get you a CA.

[TITANIUM BEAST!!!]

Not many good video examples, this is probably the best one:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11797354

Very annoying match, you basically can't be aggressive and Carl pretty much controls the flow of the match. Be very patient, is all I can say.