Arizona "Arcsys Release Dates Give Us Erectile Dysfunction", Thread

[Valthazeryus]

My group doesn't want to drive me to Super Arcade.

I GUESS IT JUST GOTTA BE REPLANNED WITH DUSTLOOP MEMBERS NEXT TIME.

[i2agnarok]

Yo, dafuq happened here?

EDIT: After closer inspection, there's one of Amane doing the same thing, but it looks like if you move her a certain distance, the setup does nothing.

Edited November 8, 2013 by i2agnarok

[LegendaryRath]

Yo, dafuq happened here?

EDIT: After closer inspection, there's one of Amane doing the same thing, but it looks like if you move her a certain distance, the setup does nothing.

The black hole is fixed in place. By moving forward and pushing Kokonoe, you'll be free of it. Most characters can't do it though

[i2agnarok]

There's a string of videos on my Facebook from people goofing around in training mode. It looks like most characters that can get out have to use a super.

Valk, Haku, Amane, Terumi, Jin

Astral escapes: Arakune, Tsubaki, Izayoi, Azrael (as a punish after Growler)

Carl can use that slide move thingie.

Well, time for some much-needed practice from me. What time is the gathering tomorrow, Ruben? (or anyone that knows)

[LegendaryRath]

there's ways to alter the setup to make it work on haku. it wouldn't surprise me if smart kokonoes could find more stuff out.

[Dipstick]

Apparently there's a gap in the lightning that she summons, so if you do a neutral tech with the right timing you don't wake up into it and then you can reversal her before she gets the super out? I'm not sure how well that works, that's just something I read on IRC. I haven't paid for her to test it out. ;_;

[IronTrigger]

Hey guys, my name is Raf.

I'm interested in playing Blazblue.

That's all.

[LegendaryRath]

Apparently there's a gap in the lightning that she summons, so if you do a neutral tech with the right timing you don't wake up into it and then you can reversal her before she gets the super out? I'm not sure how well that works, that's just something I read on IRC. I haven't paid for her to test it out. ;_;

whoever tried it did the setup wrong. There isn't a gap.

edit: so here's how it works. the lightning hits meaty and has recovered before you even tech. The super is invul longer than any reversal and is active enough to pick you up after something like inferno divider.

Edited November 8, 2013 by LegendaryRath

[Chumaralupa]

I'm told the whole Digital PS3 games working on PS4 thing is wrong. Can I get a definite confirm or deny on this matter?

Oh, also games tomorrow is good to go anytime after 8PM, I'll need as many setups as 2 weeks ago, also my monitor from Ray, and UAT Jimmy seems to always have his so that'd help as well.

[Dipstick]

I guess that's one way to beat Kokonoe's unblockable setup...

I'm told the whole Digital PS3 games working on PS4 thing is wrong. Can I get a definite confirm or deny on this matter?

Oh, also games tomorrow is good to go anytime after 8PM, I'll need as many setups as 2 weeks ago, also my monitor from Ray, and UAT Jimmy seems to always have his so that'd help as well.

Short answer: PS3 games will not work on the PS4.

Longer answer: from what I've heard, Sony's plan is, in the future, to make older games playable through Gaikai, so you would be streaming the older games through the cloud service (with the applicable input lag, bletch). So I wouldn't want to be playing any fighting game on that service.

As for setups, I can bring one. Ruben, can you (or someone else) PM me your address as I don't think I've ever been over there (even after all this time). I could probably beat it out of someone but I would rather not. :p

Edited November 8, 2013 by Dipstick

[Loli Bacon]

People talking about Kokonoe needing a patch is hilarious. xD This is exactly what Arcsys wants. They make characters intentionally worse than others just based on their playstyle (their words) because it wouldn't be fun to play against a character that is both annoying and good (v-13 CT, Arakune CT). To be fair, nothing she does is much different than any other character. She has high meterless damage, she has zoning tools, and she can rush down. She has her flaws. Honestly, she's reminding me more of CT Rachel/CS2 Mu than any one else. That is to say, she has zoning tools but she's a rushdown/transition character akin to Aoko. I don't think she's a problem, I think that players just don't want a character with such potential for annoying zoning to have good damage conversion as well as good setups.

[Omegashrimp]

Hey guys, my name is Raf.

I'm interested in playing Blazblue.

That's all.

Hellooooooo.

[LegendaryRath]

Dipstick is right about ps3 games NOT working on ps4. The system architectures are too different. If they wanted to let us play ps3 games, then they'd need to add hardware within the ps4 to make that possible. We all like the $400 dollar price-point right? Make that 5-600 easily if they did that. Gaikai will (hopefully) one day let us play ps3 games on the ps4 though.

Edited November 8, 2013 by LegendaryRath

[LegendaryRath]

Hey guys, my name is Raf.

I'm interested in playing Blazblue.

That's all.

What's up?!?! You should come play blaz tomorrow night!

[i2agnarok]

I don't think any of my stuff actually got used last time.

I'll plan to bring my console, and if I actually need to bring a monitor, text me or message me on Facebook.

[IronTrigger]

What's up?!?! You should come play blaz tomorrow night!

I'd love to but I work overnight on Friday.

[Orrax]

I plan on stopping by tomorrow. I'll see if I can remember how to do anything with Tsubaki.

[LegendaryRath]

I'll bring a console but no monitor this time

edit: I'm going to spend the bulk of my day tomorrow working on a sub, since I've only really practiced Azrael so far. Who should it be?

Considering Hakumen, Relius, Ragna, Rachel.

Hakumen just because I played him in Ex, but he looks really boring this time around so maybe not.

Relius looks ballin, but hard to do well with at first

Ragna actually looks like he has fun combos now

I meant to learn Rachel ages ago, but she doesn't quite fit my playstyle. Regardless I need to learn to deal with zoners better, so she could be my ticket inside of their minds.

Edited November 8, 2013 by LegendaryRath

[Chumaralupa]

I heard the same thing Dippy said from a Gamestop Employee so I'm going to take that as the verdict.

Dippy, I will PM you my address.

I will have 4 monitors, and if last time was any indication, 6 setups is the max my place can hold (barely) so if Ryan isn't bringing a monitor then up to two people bringing monitors is fine, and I'm pretty sure UAT Jimmy is already going to have one.

If Ryan, Erik and one other person brings a console for my monitors then that'll be perfect, thanks ya'lls.

Ted, I can see where you're coming from about the similarities in potential between Kokonoe and other characters both previous and current, but worst case scenario the best any of those characters could put you in was an un-reactable 50/50 with the options to reversal out (if you had one) it just looks like Kokonoe takes the player-player interaction out of the game at some points and creates a training room scenario, which I don't think should exist in any fighting game.

[Ryuuka]

Pre-game at PCP?

[Loli Bacon]

I heard the same thing Dippy said from a Gamestop Employee so I'm going to take that as the verdict.

Dippy, I will PM you my address.

I will have 4 monitors, and if last time was any indication, 6 setups is the max my place can hold (barely) so if Ryan isn't bringing a monitor then up to two people bringing monitors is fine, and I'm pretty sure UAT Jimmy is already going to have one.

If Ryan, Erik and one other person brings a console for my monitors then that'll be perfect, thanks ya'lls.

Ted, I can see where you're coming from about the similarities in potential between Kokonoe and other characters both previous and current, but worst case scenario the best any of those characters could put you in was an un-reactable 50/50 with the options to reversal out (if you had one) it just looks like Kokonoe takes the player-player interaction out of the game at some points and creates a training room scenario, which I don't think should exist in any fighting game.

But that was the entire point of the design of her character from Arcsys. She's using a setup in order to ensure the player can't do anything about the incoming damage. It's the same thing as Graviton > 214X > OD Golden Tager. GG, that's 13k damage guaranteed. Point is, she's working as intended. Since it's only day 1, calm down and instead look at what makes her bad. xD

[Chumaralupa]

We'll see, in a month from now if nothing was done and it's actually NOT a glaring issue, I'll acknowledge that you're right.

You Tucson guys coming down tomorrow?

[NitroFrost]

What time does things start tonight?

[Ryuuka]

8pm but I'll be at PCP with my stuff if we want to pre-game or get dinner.

[LegendaryRath]

Point is, she's working as intended. Since it's only day 1, calm down and instead look at what makes her bad. xD

It's really hard to, since I can't really find anything. All I've done so far is find character specific answers to SOME of her bull. Like literally 14 hours straight yesterday awake talking to a group of players on Mumble, trying to find SOMETHING to do about her and we just keep finding more tech and reasons to hate her instead. If SKD and other players actually switch and main her, like they're saying, then R.I.P NEC.

Although, I don't want her to be banned, and I don't want her to be patched yet either. give her one major, like NEC, to show everyone what she can really do, and if certain aspects of her gameplay end up actually breaking the game, then asw will know what to do. Hopefully anyway.