Loli Bacon Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I'm waiting for Ken and Koro-chan to be announced. But Liz with 7 stocks.... hnnnngggg and she has new moves. Let's hope she's balanced properly. Watch, she's going to get nerfed.
Valthazeryus Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Holy shit. They listened to my prayers?! Now the rest of the P3 team. I'm totally fine with Yukari.
Chumaralupa Posted August 16, 2013 Author Posted August 16, 2013 I stopped caring about anything else really quickly. Can I just be put in cryo-sleep till then?
Valthazeryus Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) Ruben is like the easiest person to tease and distract. So what's the order of hype now, Ruben? P4A > BB Anime > Xrd > CP > ihop? Edit: New stages? Edited August 16, 2013 by Valthazeryus
Omegashrimp Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Character select looks like it can fit two more. Get ready to get disappointed, guys. I wanted Ken too. And an older Persona character.
Valthazeryus Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I already am disappointed because: So now there is a new P4A, new BB, and a new GG. Which 3 will not make it to EVO2k14 roster? Hmmmm.
Orrax Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Guilty Gear has already stolen all my hype for the month. I'll get hype for P4A2 next month. Also, I hear Yu lost his sweep -> 5D gatling. Kinda funny, if true. I wonder what Chie's nerfs will be.
LegendaryRath Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I wonder what Chie's nerfs will be. I'm hoping she'll lose here sweep/AoA oki. And maybe j.C should have upper body property. And maybe 5A shouldn't be +1. Oh and let us CH her AoA if we manage to block it. Sorry to bag on your character so much, but she's already bonkers without that stuff. I'm hoping they blow up mitsuru's proration and make something other than 5A viable in pressure, like her 2A. Also, JUNPPPPEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIII bout time. So we have GG +R, xrd, BBCP, and now a new persona to get hyped about. Fuck Capcom. Almost forgot about the anime there for a sec.
Zeromus_X Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I'm actually hype for Yukari. Motherfucking wind orbs let's go.
Zeromus_X Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) Dude I love her outfit. Yukari the tokusatsu hero lol. Edit: if they remove Yu's one button oki, hopefully they do the same for Chie although they'd have to completely revamp those characters since that's like their whole gameplan lol. Hopefully they make Naoto a real character, remove the SMP loop, and give her an actual anti-air that isn't a t-rex arm. Edited August 16, 2013 by Zeromus_X
Valthazeryus Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 She looks like she got ripped out of Tatsunoko vs Capcom. Lol.
Ryuuka Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 +R v1.10 rebalance patch coming in January apparently
Ryd' Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 What Chie needs: 5A not +1 No more meterless Blue Fire oki. Take away full screen meteors. Make them both close range variety, one starts up sooner but fewer meteors, other has delay, but more hits. Something. Bitch does not need what she has in P4A. Her damage could possibly be toned down a bit, but it might not be necessary if they fix it to where she doesn't have guaranteed tickets in. Also, maybe fix her reversal a bit; more recovery, or make it so that she can't spam it; no character should be able to derp themselves into awakening like that. Also hype for Yukari. And watch me be sad when both her and Yukiko still suck.
Orrax Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 +R v1.10 rebalance patch coming in January apparently Where'd you hear this? What Chie needs: 5A not +1 No more meterless Blue Fire oki. Take away full screen meteors. Make them both close range variety, one starts up sooner but fewer meteors, other has delay, but more hits. Something. Bitch does not need what she has in P4A. Her damage could possibly be toned down a bit, but it might not be necessary if they fix it to where she doesn't have guaranteed tickets in. Also, maybe fix her reversal a bit; more recovery, or make it so that she can't spam it; no character should be able to derp themselves into awakening like that. Also hype for Yukari. And watch me be sad when both her and Yukiko still suck. I definitely agree with full screen meteors. 5A +1 is annoying but not game changing. Free Blue Fire oki needs to be tuned down for sure. I personally think the bottom tier needs buffs more than Chie needs nerfs, though (although she obviously needs a few). Also, shadow characters for everyone sounds interesting. Sounds like it would effectively double the cast size.
Zeromus_X Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) +R v1.10 rebalance patch coming in January apparently +R: Save Justice Edition? I thought the game looked pretty balanced as it was, but what do I know about GG. Shadow characters sound crazy, it's like the game has different Moons now lol. Edit: Lolol, Mitsuru damage nerfed, DP has more recovery, and coup droits slower. Looks like she got a new projectile and other move properties to compensate though. And I hear over the twitters that everyone's R-Action puts you in Fatal Counter state during recovery now, I hope that's true. Edited August 16, 2013 by Zeromus_X
Orrax Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 P4A2: Melty Blood edition. +R is pretty balanced, I think. I still want more untechable time on j.D, though.
Ryd' Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I don't have many major gripes about the top characters, actually. Chie just needs those three adjustments listed, imo. I don't know what can be done about her oki, but it's too much given everything else she has. A character like that shouldn't be damn near impossible to get away from on top of everything else. Mitsuru: -jA no longer has active frames of the gods -5A no longer hits above her head -Tone down her damage a bit. Teddie: -5B, 2B. Do something. -Reduced horizontal distance in 5D's hop? Not sure if that's really needed. Yu is fairly braindead, but...I don't know if there's a whole lot that could be done about him. That character type has never really been something anyone could call inspired, so I guess it's okay. Yukiko wishlist: -5A not 10f please. Alternatively, if she can't have not-slow normals outside of 2A/sweep, give her guard points on the slow ones; 5A, 5C, 2C; high/mid, high/mid, and low, respectively. It wouldn't be out of place given she's supposed to have the elegant thing going. -2B head invul -Do something with her gimmick. Fire levels up passively as fire moves hit opponent (capped per combo or something so you don't land Maragi and suddenly go from lv 0 to 7), or retain a % every round; something to make it have a consistent noticeable impact on her game. -Something air unblockable? 2B, or maybe the Maragi pillars.
Orrax Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Yu apparently lost sweep -> 5D. That's a pretty big nerf, considering that's usually how he sets up his oki. And I guess Yukiko might have gotten a new move and a new super? Not sure yet.
LegendaryRath Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 If you're worried about mitsuru being a problem... go ahead and look at her changes so far. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?16901-P4A2-Mitsuru-Shadow-Mitsuru-info-Loketest-Discussion I'm getting worried lol, But I have faith :P I'm still uber excited edit: also Narukami lost his sweep > 5D oki. It still seems possible to set up 5D oki in the corner though.
Zeromus_X Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) It seems like they just toned down the derpier parts of her gameplan but gave her some other stuff to make up for it. I don't think she'll end up CS1-Rachel tier but she'll probably have to work for her wins this time around. I am curious about her new ice projectile. For Teddie, I hope they make Bearscrew more disadvantageous. That shit is annoying as hell for only being -1. Also they need to make his DP more punishable, or at least make it able to be safe-jumped. He shouldn't be able to get out of all oki setups for free at best, or reset the game to neutral at worst. Edited August 16, 2013 by Zeromus_X
Ryd' Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I saw the new super thing for Yukiko. It requires lv 6. Unless it's something like a Dragon Install that puts her into Fire Break status for certain amount of time (or the rest of the round...lol), it probably won't have a drastic effect on her game plan. For fire levels to matter while still being left as is, she needs more ways to combo into her fire moves; because her current stable methods (CH 2B or land Maragi) aren't enough to bother with it. Maybe the new move she's getting will be something that'll allow for more stable fire combos so that you actually have some incentive to level them up, but I'm not sure what they could do for that. Alternatively, grant additional perks to her fire skills according to fire levels. Something like bigger hitboxes, more hitstun/floating, or they become air unblockable. Not ridiculously early on, but lv 5+ or something.
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