Marvel vs Capcom 3

[Super Robot War]

Hsien-ko being in Puzzle Fighter, Pocket Fighter, Namco x Capcom, and Cross Edge means nothing really (out of that list there is only one actual fighting game and she isn't even really the "same" character from the VS series given the style of the game...) But all that aside I'm happy with any Darkstalkers/Vampire characters included; all of the characters are more interesting than the average character in my opinion.

I agree that they are far more interesting than the average character, i've just wanted Talbain playable in a crossover since MVC1. I've only wanted one character, and if I got him, hell, add Jedah or whoever, I wouldn't really care at that point

Anyway Super Robot War, as an outsider to this conversation you're getting trolled, falling for it continually, and looking less and less intelligent in your plight to argue why talbain is awesome. My advice, just let it go; I'm sure most people get that you prefer wolves...

I'm quite aware i'm being trolled, but I don't back down when someone steps up. Wolves ARE cool, though I like dragons better than wolves honestly, I just always loved playing as Talbain since I was little, and everyone wants their main.

On some semblance of topic

Really happy tron bonne made it into the game, however, I'm feeling (given the relatively small roster) there are a lot of copy and paste characters...

Of course there are, all of the returning were pretty much confirmed for "copy and paste tier".

[Tsuki Garyuu]

I'm quite aware i'm being trolled, but I don't back down when someone steps up.

If you're aware, then why are you making this worse for yourself? Bet you didn't notice that. If you're so mature, then give yourself a few seconds to just STOP, put all the bullshit behind, and leave it at that. You know, like normal people do.

Of course there are, all of the returning were pretty much confirmed for "copy and paste tier".

I will laugh if anyone dares to make a tier list.

[Super Robot War]

If you're aware, then why are you making this worse for yourself? Bet you didn't notice that. If you're so mature, then give yourself a few seconds to just STOP, put all the bullshit behind, and leave it at that. You know, like normal people do.

Obvious troll was obvious, but i'm not backing down from anyone who steps up, troll or not. And no matter what, i'm not going to let anyone talk shit about me or my character of preference (which obviously changes with game series)

I will laugh if anyone dares to make a tier list.

Wasn't meaning a true tier list.

[haketh]

God you're an absolute idiot

So basically, he's just a flying grappler with a projectile.

And even if this was true how many grapplers as mobile as Jedah have ever been in fighting game.

[the_d3v]

Since this place has degenerated into flaming over characters on a level almost as bad as in Capcom-Unity, I figured I might as well post some shizz from those in SRK who got to play the game at the Fight Club.

Watched so many fights, Answers are here. Thoughts are in another thread.

Push blocking pushes them anywhere from half to full screen depending on if they were grounded or not.

Double Snapbacks knock both point and assist character off screen.

Assists are juggleable if you kill the point and the assist is still being hit by say an assist.

Skrull's HCB+A is a really fast close command grab. HCB+B is the mid range one. HCB+C is anti air. Cannot combo into any command grabs.

I have yet to see an unsafe special move that isn't Shoryuken.

Doom felt really good. But he isn't at all like his MvC2 counterpart. QCFbuttons for Photon Array. =/

Skrull Tenderizer is ridiculously good. It is safe on block and does so much damage/combo into super.

Doom/Dante's missles are overheads. And they are assists. So overhead assists. Hooray unblockables.

Leading team in the game right now is Trish Skrull Doom in that order.

Thor is god awful. The way push blocking is Thor will never get in.

Doom's level 3 is a hit. He puts you into a cylinder container and gets on his crunk chair and laughs at you as you lose health.

Chun level 3 is SA3 from 3S.

Dante's level 3 is Stinger. Repeatedly.

Trish's level 3 is an autocombo with Sparda. Does around 50 hits.

On juggling assists.

You can juggle assists if you can manage to launch them. You cannot OTG them though. I saw a super kill point and hit assist, 2 DHCs killed the assist. (Iron Man Chun Li Ammy methinks)

I don't think it was size related. Everytime I jumped in and got blocked I was fullscreen after 1 move. On all setups. For different characters.

Biggest IM strat of the night was IAD j.B overhead.

On guard breaks and tri-jumps.

No guard breaking. They come in really low to the ground.

Tri jumps are all overheads.

Iron Man

Trish

Dante

Chun

DOOM (j.MP hits twice)

Thor

Ammy (Kinda)

All could tri jump into godlike overheads. Really fast too. And mix that in with an overhead assist or Ammy's ice shot assist (Takes up like half the screen in ice) and you've got yourself crazy mixup.

Dorm can tri jump but he has no good air to ground attacks.

Same with Skrull.

On spabbacks.

Well hell, snapbacks don't even have the amazingly fast startup anymore either. They are just normal hits. No more 3 frame fierce.

On assists.

List of Assists I saw per char

Dante:

Jam Session (Guitar Corridor)

Crystal (Space control)

??? (jumped and shot guns at 45 degree angle down.)

Trish:

Hop Scotch (Set ground trap)

Peekaboo (Set air trap)

Low Voltage (Fireball)

Skrull:

Tenderizer (AA Punches)

??? (Drop from above)

??? (Flame spinny fists)

Doom:

??? (Beam)

Molecular Shield

Homing Missles (Doom shows up with a small case, shoots about 6 rockets out. About 2 seconds later an overhead.

IM

Unibeam

Smart Bombs (Forgot, they are now down down +Button and they OTG)

Normal AA assist.

Deadpool

Katanarama (AA slash)

Quick Work (Guns)

???

Ammy

Ice Shot (8 SHOTS and even on block the ice shatters all around you giving opponent basically invisible mixup, like Doronjo's giant boulder)

No other assists because that one is SO GOOD

Chris

??? (Chris says 1 2 combo and punches. Terrible range)

Machine Gun

Grenade

Hulk

Gamma Wave (Projectile)

Gamma Crush (Upwards)

Gamma Crush (Sideways)

Capn America

Shield Slash

Charging Star

???

Morrigan

Soul Fist

DP

???

Thor:

Mighty Spark (Projectile. Really slow)

Mighty Charge (DP...ish move. Bad)

Mighty Smash (Might be overhead? Dunno. It was fast though.)

One of Trish's assists is called Hopscotch, the other is called Peekaboo, both of which are traps. Can't remember which is which, though I believe the ground trap (anti air) is Hopscotch...

On the game's speed.

Marvel 2 speed. PERFECT.

On Felicia

Didn't really get a chance to test if I could cancel moves with the charge but when I was using it, it seemed like a decent move. It good charge speed, it was very safe. When the opponent tried to punish me for charging I could back dash to cancel it and avoid the attack completely. Got to dodge a few of Dante's attacks from the air with a canceled charge and go for a punish.

I tried to do her MVC2 confirm for Please Help Me! with her crouching fierce kick, but it didn't work. Don't know if i was just a bit to slow but it looked like it wouldn't hit the opponent even if i was faster. There might have been more to the move I didn't really try for it more then once. It had a really long start up time vs the old version.

I saw a few people summon her cat helper and it had different results each time. One person had theirs work a lot like Yatterman 2's Mini-Honda in TVC and it constantly sought out the opponent, while another player's helper couldn't keep up with the player and the opponent and spent its duration jumping into the air not really accomplishing anything.

I was hoping to try more but hopefully this answers some questions for someone.

On Dormammu.

Dormmamu

QCF A B C Black Hole

QCB A Power of the Creator

QCB B Power of the Destroyer

QCB C Uses your Powers you stocked up from Creator/Destroyer

QCF 2 buttons Flame beam. Really fast easy to combo

QCB 2 buttons Floating Bomb. Moves way to fast to zone with. Cannot DHC it into another super and keep the Fireball on screen.

Assists were Purification (Capn Corridor) Black Hole and a 3rd I didn't catch.

Alrighty.

Floating Bomb Teleport does not work if they block it because if they advanced guard floating bomb you get pushed back. So you don't rushdown. You just float in the air longer.

Flame Beam super is really fast. Like 2 frame startup.

Level 3 works like Jedah's supers. Just jump to avoid it once you see the flash. You can do sticky ground level 3.

Power of Get Rushed Down and Power of Lose more health due to really fast startup supers are awesome if you want to die.

On Morrigan

Morrigan BnB's I played at Chicago fight club AND Evo

Meterless:

IAD j.E (3 hits) cr.A st.B cr.B st.C cr.C E j.A j.A j.B j.B dj.B dj.B E (+ any direction for aireal ecchange combos)

1 or 3 Meters:

IAD j.E (3 hits) cr.A st.B cr.B st.C cr.C E j.A j.A j.B j.B dj.B dj.B THEN

1 Meter C->Finishing shower

3 Meter Darkness illusion

X-factor

IAD j.E (3 hits) cr.A st.B cr.B st.C (X-FACTOR) st. C AGAIN! cr.C E j.A j.A j.B j.B dj.B dj.B

with Dante assist Jam session

IAD j.E (3 hits) cr.A st.B cr.B st.C+A1 (while Dante combos with Jam session.) IAD j.E (3 hits) cr.A st.B cr.B st.C j.A j.A j.B j.B dj.B dj.B dj.C Finishing Shower (combos builds at least 1 meter.)

Morrigans Dash is really sexy she can create parabolas with that shit! her triangle jump is nasty too... and with her j.E hitting 3 times she can don some dope mixups. once they get used to waiting for 3 hits do j.C or j.BB instead out of dash, land and vector drain.

On Super Skrull

What I wanted to test out and what I couldn't do I'll list here.

HCB+C is a 45 degree anti air command grab. So say do a string to launcher and end in knockdown, call an assist that will OTG and then C command grab them out of the air tech?

Could be a possible kill reset.

On balance

Broken is good. We like broken.*

*Overheard while he was watching a match between Floe and Kurasa at the Chicago Fight Club.

[haketh]

I approve of broken, now if only SSFIV could get some of that broken

[Tsuki Garyuu]

I approve of broken, now if only SSFIV could get some of that broken

If possible, that could be SF X Tekken.

[Seadragon77]

Hey, MvC2 was broken as hell (I should know since I used Cable, Iron Man and either B.B. Hood or War Machine) but it was fun as hell. Good thing they aren't changing a damn thing with MvC3.

[MouseWonder]

How is ammy looking as a character outside of her ice shot assist? I know its posted that she "kinda" has a tri jump into godlike overhead, but wasn't sure how she looked overall.

[Super Robot War]

MvC2 was fun? Must have missed it during all the god tiers, infinites, assist spamming, and floating at the top of the screen. I liked MVC3 far more when it was looking to build on TVC, not MVC2.

[Heroic_Legacy]

How is ammy looking as a character outside of her ice shot assist? I know its posted that she "kinda" has a tri jump into godlike overhead, but wasn't sure how she looked overall.

Solid. Not the best but we have yet to discover really good combos right now since he styles are so awkward to use. I'd say right now she's T.Bonne from MvC2 but wait a bit and she might be her own character.

[Super Robot War]

I am curious about Ammy, I like her having a switch between reflector -> beads -> glaive, and i'm sure it changes her normals, I just wonder if she has any specific specials for them as well.

[Blade]

God you're an absolute idiot

And even if this was true how many grapplers as mobile as Jedah have ever been in fighting game.

[Super Robot War]

Play SNK games if you want mobile grapplers like Shermie or Hinako or Ramon or Blue Mary.

[Seadragon77]

MvC2 was fun? Must have missed it during all the god tiers, infinites, assist spamming, and floating at the top of the screen. I liked MVC3 far more when it was looking to build on TVC, not MVC2.

That's because when I played, it was never at a high competitive tourny level. Yes, it was broken, but that doesn't mean you cannot play a game just for fun, am I right?

[Super Robot War]

That's because when I played, it was never at a high competitive tourny level. Yes, it was broken, but that doesn't mean you cannot play a game just for fun, am I right?

Maybe, but with that game, I HAVE to be playing for shits and giggles, and be completely relaxed, taking everything with a grain of salt. If I put even a little caring into that game, the sheer brokenness will make me rage like none other.

[Mightfo]

Doom/Dante's missles are overheads. And they are assists. So overhead assists. Hooray unblockables.

Also, considering that dante has 14 different specials, not counting his supers or his 2 rekka options, I'm hoping that other characters like morrigan get new specials.

Fairly excited for this. Just hoping Capcom doesn't suddenly do stupid shit like 10 frame defensive input buffer or leaves combos as shitty as they are without real potential for resets. and hopefully they'll fix/have fixed the air exchange shit

also hopefully it will have more character balance than mvc2

[farranpoison]

Wait what.

Overhead missiles.

Overhead projectiles.

WHAT

IS

THIS

[Super Robot War]

Wait what.

Overhead missiles.

Overhead projectiles.

WHAT

IS

THIS

This....this is madness!

[FormerlyUnknown]

Maybe, but with that game, I HAVE to be playing for shits and giggles, and be completely relaxed, taking everything with a grain of salt. If I put even a little caring into that game, the sheer brokenness will make me rage like none other.

i have to say that i've been reading everything since my last post and i have never felt closer to you man =p not a talbain fan or anything but i never played darkstalkers for more than 3 minutes between 1 year incriments so i know nothing of it. =p

so pretty much everything you've said for the last 5 pages have my 100% support (~'3')~

edit: and i do take fighters somewhat seriously and i don't accept broken =p i'm getting mvc3 but doom's on my blacklist. no dooms. period. or tron for that matter. period.

[Xtra_Zero]

foxonlyfinaldestination

[Super Robot War]

i have to say that i've been reading everything since my last post and i have never felt closer to you man =p not a talbain fan or anything but i never played darkstalkers for more than 3 minutes between 1 year incriments so i know nothing of it. =p

so pretty much everything you've said for the last 5 pages have my 100% support (~'3')~

edit: and i do take fighters somewhat seriously and i don't accept broken =p i'm getting mvc3 but doom's on my blacklist. no dooms. period. or tron for that matter. period.

I am assuming you're being sarcastic. But yeah, the gameplay looks fun and all, and I do kinda want to get it because it pretty cool looking, Amaterasu is in (TVC annoyed me with Yami and no Ammy, no Puffy Ami Yumi jokes please) and looks pretty cool, and I do like the DMC games (hesitant to call them DMC ever since the travesty of the new game) and like Dante (though I know he'll be broken to all hell), so it's got appeal to me, it's just very annoying Talbain won't be in, and I know it'll be as broken, or moreso, than MVC2. Deadpool looks fun, was never for or against him before, but his gameplay looks really fun. Really, all of the characters (barring X-23, Tron, Ryu/Morrigan, and Chun-Li) look fun.

Also, though it's a bit embarrassing to mention, I love fire and fire elements, so the characters using fire automatically have a high level of interest to me.

[FormerlyUnknown]

I am assuming you're being sarcastic.

you make me sad q.q

[Super Robot War]

you make me sad q.q

Now I KNOW you were being sarcastic.

[FormerlyUnknown]

Now I KNOW you were being sarcastic.

but i wasn't =O though if i was in your position i'd be paranoid too =p i was in the exact situation in the xbl general chat not 3 months ago, ask =p