Guilty Gear 2: Overture released

[Blackgenma]

Xithmos vs Ayumu (W:L)

1v1 record: about 2:3 simplified

2v2 record

Not on team: Over 9000:0

On my team: 0:Over 9000

I so he wins alot when he's not partnering with you?

guess your not a team player....

I never hated I game that I like so much as this. Fucking hard as hell.

EDIT: English voice acting rocks, use it.

oh, and new guy, I have a guide for multiplayer at gamefaqs and a GG2 video thread at guilty pleasures section if you need help in the game. have fun with it.

[Blackgenma]

I swear these Japanese.... I go in a room and everybody runs for it like I have the plague. at least give me a chance!

[Xithmos]

I usually play a support role as Sin; I try to back up my partner's units with my own and re-capture ghosts. I'll heal their units as well with Sin's Pecatal Stain(?). Plus, you tend to turtle when you are in a losing position, Ayumu. We can't make a come back if you don't attempt to take your units to capture ghosts. I'll work on combos for Ky and Izuna later today. I wasn't feeling so good yesterday.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

I so he wins alot when he's not partnering with you?

guess your not a team player....

I never hated I game that I like so much as this. Fucking hard as hell.

EDIT: English voice acting rocks, use it.

oh, and new guy, I have a guide for multiplayer at gamefaqs and a GG2 video thread at guilty pleasures section if you need help in the game. have fun with it.

Nah, you've got it backwards, Panda, AJ, Xithmos, and I have this running joke of how Xithmos is the worst 2v2 teammate ever.

And I play Valentine, so of course I turtle.

[Xithmos]

Nah, you've got it backwards, Panda, AJ, Xithmos, and I have this running joke of how Xithmos is the worst 2v2 teammate ever.

Exactly.

Valentine shouldn't even turtle in 2v2's since she can spam units left and right. You can run the units to other ghosts so you can capture them quickly.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

Well I just suck that bad okay D: Fine I'll be more aggressive today, 'kay?

[PandaKingEX]

I remember the days of having xithmos as a 2v2 partner. We would usually do decent, but Xithmos would always do some dumb crap and lose the battle, even though we had the clear advantage. Like one time he started fighting AJ at one of his ghosts, while he was 1 death away from losing, and we have the whole field under our control. Ayumu is actually a pretty good team partner, imo. Ayumu turtles a lot, but actually backs you up with servants, keeps his side of the field stable, and knows how to retreat when the situation isn't looking too good, so you don't feel like you have to babysit him all the time. The only problem I have with Ayumu is that he doesn't capitalize on important moments, or ever aim for field advantage, so whoever his partner is has to be more aggressive on their half of the field to make sure that you are getting enough mana.

[Xithmos]

^I think I know what you're talking about. I probably was trying to capture one of AJ's nearby ghosts. But I guess I shouldn't have done that either.

[Blackgenma]

blah, the last match I had with ayumu as my partner, he sat at a ghost THE ENTIRE MATCH. that's ALL he did. I was paradigm, he was valentine, vs a sol and a ky. Illyria2. He was on top, I was on bottom. I had the center of the bottom, and attempted to get units on the uppper bridge on the opponent's side. well, he didn't get the center of the map on the top, he missed out for whatever reason. how did he try to open the enemy defense and capture the middle again? STAND IN THE GHOST NEXT TO IT WITH HIS UNITS AND NOT MOVE. for anything. just stand there, hoping Sol is dumb enough to tell his force to advance so he can overdrive them. Sol sat there all day, made a Gigant and fortify his position, making the assault all the more difficult, but it's ok, BECAUSE AYUMU CLEARLY HAD NO INTENTION OF ASSAULTING HIM. I wanted to, you know, make some headway, so I go over to ayumu is, and I tell him "lets advance" clearly I'm telling him to attack the ghost ahead of us, and I'll help him out personally, my force where it is in case Ky tries to penetrate it without me there. he continues to stand there. than I decide to say to hell with him and advance myself on the bottom of the map (so far I've tried a few times, but the deadlock map dominance made it difficult for subtle moves to not get overtaken when your partner is literally doing nothing). so I do so, and on top of my units being dominated by a group with a convict hammer (I must have made some mistake with my assistant Bonnie, and the buff units must have torn through my regular ones) I'm ready to call this assault off and retreat. Sol decides he's going to help his pal eventually, and goes to where I am and double teams me. I get destroyed. Ayumu is nowhere to be seen in in my plight. through my regrouping efforts, I don't remember what exactly happened to Ayumu specifically, but I clearly remember him NOT DOING ANYTHING for the majority of the match. I never see him engage an enemy master or advance.when Ky starts pushing back, Sol once again gets bored and decides to double team me again. Ayumu demonstrates his awesome teamwork by standing at his ghost and letting me get raped. that has NEVER happened with one of my partners. I mean, at least throw me a fucking bone and help me out when being double teamed. shoot. when a paradigm has more balls to advance than you, there is something wrong. stop being such a turtle ayumu. Edit: don't mind me Ayumu, just ranting. I was really pissed about it when it happened though.

[Xithmos]

Behaviors in matches aside, I finally finished the Ky combos (skipped intermediate since he barely has any EZ combos and went straight into advanced/item combos) and I literally sat there for an hour thinking of all possible combos/guard breaks/how to link from attacks that lead to them blocking/item combos/super. Now for Izuna. D: EDIT: Izuna doesn't have many combos to do, so the vid might be short (maybe around 2 minutes?) I tried to add in an item combo in there, but you can guess where it can fit it other combos. It ended up only being a minute and thirty seconds, but I added all possible combos that would work in a match.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

blah, the last match I had with ayumu as my partner, he sat at a ghost THE ENTIRE MATCH. that's ALL he did.

I was paradigm, he was valentine, vs a sol and a ky. Illyria2. He was on top, I was on bottom. I had the center of the bottom, and attempted to get units on the uppper bridge on the opponent's side.

well, he didn't get the center of the map on the top, he missed out for whatever reason. how did he try to open the enemy defense and capture the middle again? STAND IN THE GHOST NEXT TO IT WITH HIS UNITS AND NOT MOVE. for anything. just stand there, hoping Sol is dumb enough to tell his force to advance so he can overdrive them. Sol sat there all day, made a Gigant and fortify his position, making the assault all the more difficult, but it's ok, BECAUSE AYUMU CLEARLY HAD NO INTENTION OF ASSAULTING HIM.

I wanted to, you know, make some headway, so I go over to ayumu is, and I tell him "lets advance" clearly I'm telling him to attack the ghost ahead of us, and I'll help him out personally, my force where it is in case Ky tries to penetrate it without me there.

he continues to stand there. than I decide to say to hell with him and advance myself on the bottom of the map (so far I've tried a few times, but the deadlock map dominance made it difficult for subtle moves to not get overtaken when your partner is literally doing nothing). so I do so, and on top of my units being dominated by a group with a convict hammer (I must have made some mistake with my assistant Bonnie, and the buff units must have torn through my regular ones) I'm ready to call this assault off and retreat. Sol decides he's going to help his pal eventually, and goes to where I am and double teams me. I get destroyed. Ayumu is nowhere to be seen in in my plight.

through my regrouping efforts, I don't remember what exactly happened to Ayumu specifically, but I clearly remember him NOT DOING ANYTHING for the majority of the match. I never see him engage an enemy master or advance.when Ky starts pushing back, Sol once again gets bored and decides to double team me again. Ayumu demonstrates his awesome teamwork by standing at his ghost and letting me get raped.

that has NEVER happened with one of my partners. I mean, at least throw me a fucking bone and help me out when being double teamed. shoot. when a paradigm has more balls to advance than you, there is something wrong.

stop being such a turtle ayumu.

Edit: don't mind me Ayumu, just ranting. I was really pissed about it when it happened though.

I lol'd

I remember the days of having xithmos as a 2v2 partner. We would usually do decent, but Xithmos would always do some dumb crap and lose the battle, even though we had the clear advantage. Like one time he started fighting AJ at one of his ghosts, while he was 1 death away from losing, and we have the whole field under our control.

Ayumu is actually a pretty good team partner, imo. Ayumu turtles a lot, but actually backs you up with servants, keeps his side of the field stable, and knows how to retreat when the situation isn't looking too good, so you don't feel like you have to babysit him all the time. The only problem I have with Ayumu is that he doesn't capitalize on important moments, or ever aim for field advantage, so whoever his partner is has to be more aggressive on their half of the field to make sure that you are getting enough mana.

I'm flattered. All I can say is that I try, except I have no courage when it comes to GG2 and I see some other master at a ghost ahead. I'll sit there and build my army until I have it almost all at one ghost then go in for that one other ghost, and somehow still get destroyed (half the time). The other half of the time I don't even try because I know through some horrible mistake, I'm going to get raped and I don't like seeing Valentine die. It hurts mah feel goods.

[Blackgenma]

to me, I believe a team that works with one another and is receptive the their team mates needs is what makes a good team. this means they are both equally flexible, they can carry their own lot, and are willing to lose some ground for the sake of helping out their partner. coordination and communication is key when it comes to collaborative offense as well. and for the love of god, help the guy out when he's getting jumped by two masters. I mean, holy crap. sometimes being turtle is necessary, but you must do something to break the ice and change the momentum in your favor. FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD. oh, and my F.A.Q. has been updated with 2 vs 2 and Points Match sections. WEE!

[Xithmos]

The Izuna video was posted up on youtube, but the Ky video got an error somehow. I'll post both up when the Ky video is ready.

Izuna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjG3ubNHeYE

Ky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqTwMkfKxrs

[Blackgenma]

Xithmos, would you be so kind as to place combo inputs for these videos in the descriptions? should be easy for you since your the one who did them. also, I don't like ky's guard break combos in that video. seem VERY bad, only noobs will sit there and let ky break their guard like that, and many of the strings would not punish side steps.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

Xithmos, would you be so kind as to place combo inputs for these videos in the descriptions? should be easy for you since your the one who did them.

also, I don't like ky's guard break combos in that video. seem VERY bad, only noobs will sit there and let ky break their guard like that, and many of the strings would not punish side steps.

Translation: Only Ayu would sit there and let that combo break his guard

Second the combo inputs, can't tell what half the things you're doing with Ky D:

[Blackgenma]

new post cuz I'm badass like that, to hell with edits.

found something very nasty for Sol's overdrive.

(L) x, 6x, 2x, a+x.

if they block the first three hits, the first hit of the overdrive will break their guard, the second hit Will do 480 damage. three characters instantly dead, no chance to burst. WOOT!

I loves it.

Edit: don't avoid a knock when it comes to stun dipper. just don't.

[Xithmos]

I just wanted to show how to guard break people with Ky once you've started a combo. Edit: How did you not know about that tobal? That's some EZ mode stuff.

[Blackgenma]

I just wanted to show how to guard break people with Ky once you've started a combo.

Edit: How did you not know about that tobal? That's some EZ mode stuff.

you miss a lot when you play in increments of weeks.

[Xithmos]

You have a point there. You should totally ask Santa Clause to get you an Xbox 360 for Christmas.

[lxMetalSonicxl]

I am way too scrubby at this game lol.

[Blackgenma]

You have a point there.

You should totally ask Santa Clause to get you an Xbox 360 for Christmas.

did you know about the Sol guard break thing though? I have never seen anyone do it besides kimera in one match on nico video. I was very surprised about that. did it on this rolent chief (a good jp ky player) me and my friend crabbas was joking that player was probably all like "NANDATO!?" when I did it to him. I felt bad ass killing him like that.

you should have put that in your combo video if you did know aout it, it's really helpful.

I don't really celebrate Christmas. you save a lot of money that way.

I LOVE GG2! EVEN IF I DO NOTHING BUT LOSE.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

I LOVE GG2! EVEN IF I DO NOTHING BUT LOSE.

*coughmylinecough*

I have to actually do something to further the development of the GG2 community, I feel lazy sitting here making responses that have no relevance to the topic at hand.

[Xithmos]

Yes, I knew about the guard break thing. I normally don't do it since... I barely use Sol, and it just seems so obvious to do.

[Xithmos]

Should I bother making a video for Valentine, Raven, and Izuna?

[Sol.Badguy]

1. All I know is I played like 5 matches with ayu and xith and my team won every match with me as Sol ^^ 2. Don't rag too hard on Ayu, when we were both Sol vs Xith(ky) and Rawr kun(izuna) we worked pretty well as a team =D, I expecially like the mention Xithmos made when he said he literally couldn't move. *Sol double team on ky ftw!* 3. What is the guard break thing you're talking about? I probably already do it by force of habit of being Sol every game but I'm curious if its the same thing :3