HiagoX Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Just used your post instead for the first post, removed most of the bolds, and changed some stuff around (AM show = 1st loke test?). Still needs to add what I've said about Jin's 5D. Maybe you'll wait for zephyr to translate everything? EDIT: Someone should be translating everything in the wiki for you guys in a few moments, but here's some other changes for you all to discuss: - Arakune's D Bug now falls faster. - Tager's 4D pulls more.
Mumm-Ra Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Arakune's D bug seems to deal less damage now too.
eirei Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 - Arakune's D Bug now falls faster. And deals less damage. Hakumen - Changed to 5 primers. - Slower magatama recovery. - 6B damage increased. - 623A cancelable during movement. - MUGEN: after gauge depletes, will not increase for at least 6 seconds. - Yukikaze: will only show superflash after a successful counter. Gauge depletes on use either way. AH still has superflash. (Was this in the first loketest? Not sure.) Lambda - 4D moves her backwards, harder to combo. - Throw can't combo into 6A, can followup with 2D. - Calamity damage decreased. Tsubaki - 5D charges half a gauge in an instant, has fastest recovery of all Ds. - 236 -> 214 doesn't combo, but 236 -> 22 does. Hazama - Hazama 6A->Jayoku works (I don't even know why this is listed) - Air throw can be followed up by Zaneiga (214D~C). - jC: no longer jump cancelable?
LordSpectreX Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Is the d bug damage nerf based from his damage now or his reduced damage from the first locktest? The falling faster stuff is awesome. It should make the timing on the 2c and j.5C starters a lot less strict.
SH-Junkie Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Why aren't there any changes to arakune so far...loketest 1 for ara sucked dick. So far he seems worse of a character than he already is. What arakune needs is do have options outside of curse mode b/c his non curse game is fucking balls awful. I'm glad they nerfed the damage off of D bug making the loop prorate a lot! this makes it so other combos he has, while opponent is curse, more viable. Seeing the fact that arakune in cs is just 1 loop.
HiagoX Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 One of our brazilian players was talking to me, and he read something about Mori saying he wanted to make all characters being able to decently combo from midscreen but only doing massive damage in the corner. Here: http://www40.atwiki.jp/blazblue/pages/832.html Well, Mori certainly didn't like corner proration idea.
ZONG_one Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Well, Mori certainly didn't like corner proration idea. also, how about you (not you, hiago,) take in changes and discuss +/- instead of just bitching. Don't bitch until changes are final. For now, ugh, nevermind. This happens every single time.
eirei Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Okay, this should be everything. For now. Ragna - 5B -> 6A is back. - 5C, 2C -> 6A added. - Ground Gauntlet can be followed up. - Blood Kain -> 6D 6D possible. - 6A weaker (less range, etc.). - 2C slower. - 2D doesn't break primers. Jin - 5D much faster, comboable from 5C. Noel - C Silencer lifts higher, easier to combo from longer distances, harder for longer combos. Added in same-move proration. - Barrel even faster. - 6A hits crouchers. - 5C jump cancelable on block. - Some Chain Revolver parts faster. - Hitting with Bloom Trigger on standing opponent will slide them. - 5D slower. - Spring Raid hits to edge of screen, can't follow up unless in corner. Does less damage overall. Rachel - Pumpkin much faster, can head to edge of screen in an instant. Still disappears on hit. - Tempest Dahlia buffed, much faster. Can actually combo from 5B. - 5CC sliding has more untech time. - Wind recovery starts out extremely slow, but once it starts, will recover fast. - 6A back to CS version (as opposed to the CT version they switched back to on the previous loctest. NOPE). Tao - 6B slower, but will combo into 5B on all crouching characters. - Cat Spirit 2 causes sliding. - New jB hits mid instead of overhead now (old jB is now j2B). - Can't cancel into Cat Spirit 2 from jD moves. - 6C causes slide, can't combo unless in corner (Seems fatal 2C 6C will still wallbounce? No tauntloops either way.) - You must change up which jDs you use or you'll stop and fall in the middle of your combo. - j2D stronger, heads downwards more, harder to combo with. - No 6C to Almost Becoming Two combos. Tager - Charge changed to 214D. - Magnetism pull stronger. - 6[A] pulls in during hold. - A Driver combos into Gadget. - Sledge followup faster and moves him forward. - 5C cannot combo into 6A. - 5D only pulls in during active frames. Bang - Furinkazan ground movement is shorter. Karuru - Anima has super armor, flashes red when hit. - 3D hits downed enemy towards you. Can combo with 3C afterwards. - 8D breaks primer, air blockable, interruptable. Lambchops - 4B faster, less recovery. - Sickle faster, less recovery, hits 6 times. - 214 moves changed to stun instead. CH is pretty long. - Throw throws higher, harder to combo. - 4D moves her backwards, harder to combo. - Throw can't combo into 6A, can followup with 2D. - Calamity Sword damage decreased. Hazama - 5B 3C 214D~C doesn't connect anymore. Might be replaced with 5B 3C 214D~B since 3C lifts higher now? - 214D~C now makes the opponent spin in the air. - Chain doesn't replenish gauge on block. - Cannot cancel throws into chains. - 6A->Jayoku works (I don't even know why this is listed) - Air throw can be followed up by Zaneiga (214D~C). - jC: no longer jump cancelable? (Also, don't get your panties in a bunch just yet, this might mean just the first hit) Tsubaki - Grab no longer followable by 6C or 214D. - Charge puts her in CH-able state. - j236A faster, knocks upwards, actually usuable in combos. - 5D charges half a gauge in an instant, has fastest recovery of all Ds. - 236 -> 214 doesn't combo, but 236 -> 22 does. （ ◇） - All C moves are faster. - Backthrow has less recovery, can combo afterwards in the corner. - 3C -> 3C doesn't combo. - Can't followup after 5D, jD, 6D. - Renka changed to 236B. Wallbounces, can followup with 6C. - Hotaru wallbounces, can followup with 6C. - Enma lifts higher, harder to combo. - Tsubaki slides, can only followup in corner. - Changed to 5 primers. - Slower magatama recovery. - 6B damage increased. - 623A cancelable during movement. - Mugen: after gauge depletes, will not increase for at least 6 seconds. - Yukikaze: will only show superflash after a successful counter. Gauge depletes on use either way. AH still has superflash. (Was this in the first loketest? Not sure.)
Spirit Juice Posted October 9, 2010 Author Posted October 9, 2010 Updated first post. If Mori wants characters to only do big damage in the corner, then he better nerf the shit out of Valk. lol~
BatousaiJ Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Tsubaki - 5D charges half a gauge in an instant, has fastest recovery of all Ds. - 236 -> 214 doesn't combo, but 236 -> 22 does. A half of 1 and fastest recovery? They really want us to Spam 5D like a mad man while using Tsubaki now? Or perhaps it'll be fast enough recovery that it will be used in place of 2D charge cancel so we can get half a gauge in the middle of block strings and etc. I'm really, really hoping for the latter. Getting rid of 214 combo after 236 is going to get rid of a big part of her ambiguous cross up as well but at least they're keeping 22 connect for that ever so crucial knockback/charge time. Any word on 22D wall bounce or is that still out?
HiagoX Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 - 6A->Jayoku works (I don't even know why this is listed) Maybe it wasn't working in the first loketest. @Zong <3
dsmoove12 Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Wow...Noel got more nerfs.....why does ASW hate her so much DX
SH-Junkie Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Wow...Noel got more nerfs.....why does ASW hate her so much DX I was told by someone i know that one of mori's favorite characters is noel and he wants to make her so unplayable tot he point in order to be pro with her you have to devote so much time into learning her play style. This doesn't make sense b/c mori plays noel and he button mashes...plus he cant balance a game for shit....Wheres daisuke when u need him
Spirit Juice Posted October 9, 2010 Author Posted October 9, 2010 Except Daisuke didn't even have a hand in balancing GG after #R anyways. I'm not even sure if he had a hand in balance from XX to #R.
severin Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 BAWWWW I DON'T LIKE CHANGES, MOMMY (daisuke) HOLD ME.
HiagoX Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 BAWWWW I DON'T LIKE CHANGES, MOMMY (daisuke) HOLD ME. Daisuke being someone's mommy actually creeps the fuck outta me.
Skye Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 BAWWWW I DON'T LIKE CHANGES, MOMMY (daisuke) HOLD ME. I don't fucking trust Mori. Am I to be under the assumption that everyone else does?
SH-Junkie Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Except Daisuke didn't even have a hand in balancing GG after #R anyways. I'm not even sure if he had a hand in balance from XX to #R. srsly...wow never knew that. Well who made ^ core + balanced then needs to balance cs. I don't fucking trust Mori. Am I to be under the assumption that everyone else does? I don't....Dumb mori is dumb
Kyosuke Kagami Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 srsly...wow never knew that. Well who made ^ core + balanced then needs to balance cs. Well, Mori directed AC+ lol
rei-Scarred Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Noel was nerfed?! The buffs look way more deadly then the nerfs imo. Might even be enough that I could main her now. Also is Platinum anything like Faust cause it kinda sounds like it with the random item thing.
SH-Junkie Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Noel was nerfed?! The buffs look way more deadly then the nerfs imo. Might even be enough that I could main her now. Also is Platinum anything like Faust cause it kinda sounds like it with the random item thing. Think again....more like zappa X3 u dnt even know how happy i am rei right now!!!! Shes my new main on release (that's if she fits well with me) Well, Mori directed AC+ lol I DON'T BELIEVE THIS AT ALL!!!! GGXXAC+ was an actual good game....bbcs...wtf! I need proof. Pls provide
Black Onslaught Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 why are you guys crying about a loketest no one on dustloop will have a chance to experience? all that matters is the finished result,y o
SH-Junkie Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 why are you guys crying about a loketest no one on dustloop will have a chance to experience? all that matters is the finished result,y o were all crying b/c were seeing certain changes that we don't wanna see as the end result. I know they change but still....plus we have nothing else better to do. I did what I have to do for my agenda today except for bitching/crying so...lol
Skye Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Well, Mori directed AC+ lol AC+ wasn't a rebalance. I really couldn't care less about the loctest, but Mori has a talent of fucking up. This is the man who purposely made Tager free so scrubs will feel like they're worth something. To add insult to injury, scrubs whine about Tager more than anyone.
SH-Junkie Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 AC+ wasn't a rebalance. I really couldn't care less about the loctest, but Mori has a talent of fucking up. This is the man who purposely made Tager free so scrubs will feel like they're worth something. To add insult to injury, scrubs whine about Tager more than anyone. If I could go back in time and make this my yearbook quote I would
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