Ice Cube Posted April 3, 2011 Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) 5B and 5C combo midscreen: (crouch) 5C > 6C > 2D, 6B > sekkajin > 6C > dash > 5C > hj.C > j.2C > j.2C > 214B (3488, 39 heat) (crouch) 5B > 5C > 6C > dash > j.C > j.2C > j.D, 6C > dash > 5C > hj.C > j.2C > j.2C > 214B (3252, 39 heat) corner: 5B > 5C > 623B, dash 5C > 6C > 623C, 5A > 5C > 2C > j.D, land 5B > 5C > 3C > 214C (3586, 51 heat) j.B > 5B > 5C > 623B, 6C > dash > 5C > 6C > dash > j.C > j.D, land 5B > 2B > 5C > 3C > 214C (3595, 50 heat) 5B > 5C > 623D, 6C > 623B, 6C > 623C, 5B > 5C > 2C > 623C (3985, 5-25+21 heat) (crouch) 5C > 6C > 623B, 6C > 623C, 5B > 5C > 6C > dash > j.C > j.D, land 5B > 2B > 5C > 3C > 214C (4441, 57 heat) (crouch) 5B > 5C > 6C > 623B, 6C > 623C, 5B > 5C > 2C > j.D, land 5B > 2B > 5C > 3C > 214C (3994, 55 heat) Edited April 3, 2011 by Ice Cube
Jourdal Posted April 3, 2011 Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) My god CH Hiyoku Getsumei is fucking absurd. CH Ice Arrows> Delay (until they're defrosted) > 66 > 6C > jC>jC(j2C)> J214C = 4165 CH Ice Arrows> Delay > 66 > 6C> jC J2C > J214D>6C> CDP or 214C = 4629/4658 3C>B DP>66>5C>6C>C DP>5A>5C>6C>C DP = 3649 30 meter gain Probably not as good xlolxlolx and the other combos but eh... CH 6B>6C>B DP >6C>C DP>5B>5C>jD>Ice Arrows X 2 > 6C> C DP = 6453 (If you try a purple grab its 7598) Edited April 3, 2011 by Jourdal
kirk Posted April 3, 2011 Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) Hiyoku Getsumei>6C>665C>6C>jC>dj2C>j214C ~4567dmg (think i saw this from dennou) lolcorner Hiyoku Getsumei >6C>623B>6C>623C>5A>5C>2C>623C ~5029dmg Edited April 3, 2011 by kirk
Lucien Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Hiyoku Getsumei>6C>665C>6C>jC>dj2C>j214C ~4567dmg (think i saw this from dennou) lolcorner Hiyoku Getsumei >6C>623B>6C>623C>5A>5C>2C>623C ~5029dmg Dennou still plays BB?
Jourdal Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Wait...dennou is ishida? well wow....(fucking tier whore :P) that would explain a lot.
xlolxlolx Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 iono im pretty sure since hes like the only one that ever picks black/gold jin but he changed up his play style quite a bit now, like doing j.d air dash j.2c combos, but he still does stuff like air ice sword air dash from time to time
Jourdal Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Considering his nesica profile shows he uses bang a lot i'd say you're right.
kirk Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Yeah, There was one ranbat where buppa was calling him dennou-san forgot which video.
Lucien Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 iono im pretty sure since hes like the only one that ever picks black/gold jin but he changed up his play style quite a bit now, like doing j.d air dash j.2c combos, but he still does stuff like air ice sword air dash from time to time Thanks for the insight.
xlolxlolx Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) if you get ch hiyoku close enough you can run and push them towards corner for 5k dp loop with 28 meter gain щ（゜∀ ゜щ） Yeah, There was one ranbat where buppa was calling him dennou-san forgot which video. i think that was dennou vs tetsu @ roppouten, i remember him saying that he never wins tournies cuz he gets too nervous or w/e Edited April 5, 2011 by xlolxlolx
kirk Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 ah yeah it was somewhere in that tourney that tetsu got rolled by buppazama :I on a random note though, do you guys find them hiyoku in mid combo practical? like 6c>hiyoku> corner loop w/e
xlolxlolx Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) 6c>hiyoku>6c>623b>6c>623c>5b>5c>6c>623c = 6212 so.....i'd say its well worth it if you can get it early with a p1 100 move, also gives you a 5a/2a/2b whiff>throw setup, good alternative if you're near corner so you can push them in during hiyoku Edited April 5, 2011 by xlolxlolx
StarryShade Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 Basically the only ways I've noticed Jin has changed is that I can do some CT stuffs and that everytime I would do a 6D loop I just do 6C CH BDP 6C CDP 5B 5C 6C CDP 5A 5C 2C CDP OR 6C CH BDP 6C CDP 5B 5C j.C j.2C j.D dash 5B 3C 623B 214C
Jourdal Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 It's a bit more than that but if you must simplify it...
kirk Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) seems like its easier to land dp loops on makoto. don't delay the 623b and 623c, Just do it asap. can someone try this? It might just be me being slow with inputs (lol going back to pad sucks) Edited April 6, 2011 by kirk
Jourdal Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 Really? i haven't really tried on her but xlolxlolx said you had to alter your timing..i thought it was easiest on Hazama.
kirk Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 Yeah you do. Also this seems to work only if your opponent is still on the ground when your 6c hits.
xlolxlolx Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) uhhh if you get a 6c in air you adjust by doing 623b>dash 6c =/ pretty simple but know that if its too high then 623b will whiff and i just tried without delay 623b on makoto and it rly is easier rofl...didn't expect her tail hitbox would make it that easy, i assumed delay was necessary for most chars since they weren't getting pushed high enough for 5b to connect after 623c Edited April 7, 2011 by xlolxlolx
kirk Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I just delay mine anyway if its an air hit or CH. or dash if theres a need for a little push.
xlolxlolx Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) mmmm pretty interesting air tech trap i came up with: any dp loop/sekka combos that end in j.c/j.2c>j.d where you end with a delay j.236c>air dash>air throw, very hard to see if you do a hj.c/hj.2c instead and can be 6c side swapped back into corner Edited April 7, 2011 by xlolxlolx
Jourdal Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Wow thats sick @_@, and i think i delay my 623B by default...A version i hit all the time glad i can do it reliably. B version is still inconsistent unless its tager or hazama lol. A gimmick i used in CS was blah blah air combo>jD>j236D since most were expecting the ice car and get refrozen, should this work you can land and do a DP loop from there. Not something i'd do often but gimmicks r us lol.
xlolxlolx Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 lol yeah but im sorta doubting that ppl in cs2 will fall for that since all the air unblockables train them to always air FD now, well unless theyre playing against gagaga?loooool
Jourdal Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 True, but if i'm being 100% honest i don't picture american players FD'ing in the air so easily...since as a nation we can't block . Wonder what happened to gagaga anyway...
StarryShade Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 I just honestly don't feel a difference with him from CS other than me being able to do some CT combos and the DP loop, and the fact he's faster and the throw combos are more sexy imo.
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