A.X.I.S. Posted August 20, 2011 Author Posted August 20, 2011 Yeah she could have. Man I am incredibly tired. She could have done all those things but the element of surprise got her.
A.X.I.S. Posted August 20, 2011 Author Posted August 20, 2011 Amazing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoxG10TiGb0
DJ Koopa Posted August 20, 2011 Posted August 20, 2011 ...I wish that U.Tager was normal Tager just without the 18k health. Then he wouldn't be shit tier. :x
CrazyI-nomitsu Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 U.Tager makes you feel warm inside. Real talk.
Osmond Posted August 22, 2011 Posted August 22, 2011 U.Tager is too pro for anyone anyway, SURPRISE GADGET FINGER Some things I like about U.Tager, like the train and deliciously strong mag but...I wouldn't want him to be top tier, I'd hate to see him turn into the next tier scrappy.We have to deal with enough hate from the scrubs that can't jump out of busters.
A.X.I.S. Posted August 22, 2011 Author Posted August 22, 2011 No one hates my Tager except the Noel mod. What are you guys doing to get hate?
TagerTime Posted August 22, 2011 Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) No one hates my Tager except the Noel mod. What are you guys doing to get hate? RadRed hates my Tager, he mains noel too.... Tager should be at least A or B tier like every other Grappler Edited August 22, 2011 by TagerTime
A.X.I.S. Posted August 22, 2011 Author Posted August 22, 2011 MI Ranbats winner finals Casuals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIgwq2QY42g&feature=feedu Most casuals winners and grand finals ever.
Manta Posted August 22, 2011 Posted August 22, 2011 So I heard there's this move called 720, Apparently Axis shunned it in favour of "RAPIDOU!".
A.X.I.S. Posted August 24, 2011 Author Posted August 24, 2011 So I heard there's this move called 720, Apparently Axis shunned it in favour of "RAPIDOU!". I actually tried to IB 720 but whenever I tried it came out as AC and I got blown up for it, so I decided to discard such a phenomenal idea and rapid everything. Even then I made a large list of mistakes but it was all in good fun, I'll just shrug it off and try not to make such a large list of failures next time.
Isorropia Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 You were playing well axis, but there were a few times where (end of 2nd match of GF in particular, he whiffs a DbD) he stuffed up and you could have 720ed on reaction (But like...5Aed him instead. ). I'm sure you're already kicking yourself for those though. >.> IB nerf definitely makes fighting rag harder. Oh yeah, also a couple of times after IBing 2C you tried 5A. As you saw, it'll trade with his 6C(1) and if he's awake he gets a combo cos his CH stun is way longer. I've taken to IBing 2C and then doing a 360 that ends at down-back. Ideally it grabs 6C/2D but blocks 3C. But even if you get hit by 3C it's like....eh, he's not getting a combo off it anyway, and if he goes 3C>2D you get a free punish as 2D whiffs (which I saw you did do in that match at one point).
OrionXElite Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 AXIS, pay more attention to your IBs. Leonil threw 2B>5C/2C about a thousand times and it went completely unpunished. When he doesn't go 2B>5B, 2B becomes Ragna's biggest crutch in his blockstrings. If he is willingly throwing 2B and NOT using 5B after, thats a free 720 every time. Also you didn't really call out any of his jumping out on you or jumping in on you which is vital to this matchup. This ain't CS1 where everything Ragna does leads to 4k, so be a bit more willing to throw shit out :3
Osmond Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 So I heard there's this move called 720, Apparently Axis shunned it in favour of "RAPIDOU!". Ends justify the means in this case, solid Tagers don't need 720s to save them...much
Osuna Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 I'm also noticing several whiffed 5B's on aerial opponents. Does not seem like a worthwhile venture to me to try and anti air with 5B. Also you landed a throw by the corner and then went for mid screen gadget rapid instead, which could be a preference thing, but I'd certainly at least question it a little.
CrazyI-nomitsu Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 This Ragna is playing like this old Asian guy I played at CH3. He used Ragna. I only got two throws off. I'm not kidding you. I wasn't trying to throw a lot mind you.
Osuna Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 This Ragna is playing like this old Asian guy I played at CH3. He used Ragna. I only got two throws off. I'm not kidding you. I wasn't trying to throw a lot mind you.I have no idea what this is supposed to tell us.
Osmond Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 I have no idea what this is supposed to tell us. I think he means the gentleman pummeled him and he only got two panic-busters off during the set
Isorropia Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 I think he means the gentleman pummeled him and he only got two panic-busters off during the set Osuna understands that. What Osuna was asking was - "How is that post useful in any sense."
CrazyI-nomitsu Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) I think he means the gentleman pummeled him and he only got two panic-busters off during the set Well one was panic, the other was a setup. I know that is shitty Tager play. I promise to try harder. But yeah, that gentleman kick my ass. Osuna understands that. What Osuna was asking was - "How is that post useful in any sense." Oh! I can answer that question good sir. What character was Axis fighting against in the video? A Jin? No. A Haz? No. What character was he fighting you ask? A FUCKING RAGNA!!!!! What character destroyed me at CH3? A FUCKING RAGNA!!!! Boy, when ya use your eyes and brain everything makes so much sense. I was just explaining my experience fighting a Ragna like the one Axis fought in the video. Boy, when ya use ya head everything in this world is easier. But in all seriousness though, I'm not trying to be ass. I'm just explaining my experience against a Ragna of that caliber. They are really annoying to fight. No joke. Edited August 25, 2011 by CrazyI-nomitsu
Osmond Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 I think you maybe overreacting a tad, but that is just me.
Isorropia Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 Well one was panic, the other was a setup. I know that is shitty Tager play. I promise to try harder. But yeah, that gentleman kick my ass. Oh! I can answer that question good sir. What character was Axis fighting against in the video? A Jin? No. A Haz? No. What character was he fighting you ask? A FUCKING RAGNA!!!!! What character destroyed me at CH3? A FUCKING RAGNA!!!! Boy, when ya use your eyes and brain everything makes so much sense. I was just explaining my experience fighting a Ragna like the one Axis fought in the video. Boy, when ya use ya head everything in this world is easier. But in all seriousness though, I'm not trying to be ass. I'm just explaining my experience against a Ragna of that caliber. They are really annoying to fight. No joke. Please let me take a moment to clarify what we're saying. (By the way Osuna, if I misunderstood what you were saying, feel free to correct me). There's nothing wrong with sharing your experiences in a matchup, we're all here to discuss what we know from the playing the game and trying to help each other improve. The problem with your post was that it didn't give enough information. While other people such as myself, Orion and Osuna are discussing the matches that axis posted (nearly half an hour's worth of fighting), talking about what worked, what didn't, what things we can all try in the matchup in future, you entered a post which essentially said: "I fought a ragna. Only landed 2 throws. I lost" It's more helpful if you articulate why you found it difficult to land throws (eg. ragna can pressure you from distances you can't grab, from the air etc) then we can all suggest ways to either land more throws, or ways to win the match without needing to throw. You know, stuff like that. Hence why Osuna (as long as I'm understanding him) asked "What does that tell us?". It wasn't useful to the discussion, but the point I'm making is that it could have been, if you'd given more information etc. I'm not trying to single you out here, or say that all posts which don't directly accelerate the discussion at hand are useless, I'm just explaining why your post got the response it did. I'm sorry if I caused any offence.
CrazyI-nomitsu Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 I think you maybe overreacting a tad, but that is just me. I wasn't overreacting. I'm just using my cool and some assholish personality. It's similar to Deadpool in a way. Please let me take a moment to clarify what we're saying. (By the way Osuna, if I misunderstood what you were saying, feel free to correct me). There's nothing wrong with sharing your experiences in a matchup, we're all here to discuss what we know from the playing the game and trying to help each other improve. The problem with your post was that it didn't give enough information. While other people such as myself, Orion and Osuna are discussing the matches that axis posted (nearly half an hour's worth of fighting), talking about what worked, what didn't, what things we can all try in the matchup in future, you entered a post which essentially said: "I fought a ragna. Only landed 2 throws. I lost" It's more helpful if you articulate why you found it difficult to land throws (eg. ragna can pressure you from distances you can't grab, from the air etc) then we can all suggest ways to either land more throws, or ways to win the match without needing to throw. You know, stuff like that. Hence why Osuna (as long as I'm understanding him) asked "What does that tell us?". It wasn't useful to the discussion, but the point I'm making is that it could have been, if you'd given more information etc. I'm not trying to single you out here, or say that all posts which don't directly accelerate the discussion at hand are useless, I'm just explaining why your post got the response it did. I'm sorry if I caused any offence. Ok. I'm sorry if I came off vague. I like to short and to the point with a lot of things. But I can where you guys are coming from that is totally fair. But onto my question about Ragna. I have notice this a lot from many Ragna players. They seem to jump a lot when they are applying pressure. And I when someone masters that shit, it's fucking impossible to throw them. I either miss a throw, and eat an awesome combo or I miss and get a little salty. It's not fun. I have also notice it a lot from Tao and Makoto too. How do you fight people applying pressure to Tager when they are also jumping to keep said pressure on, and avoid all our buster attempts? If there is something vague in this post. Please let me know.
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